[Wylie's Mom]

Originally Posted by Ellie May

Excess phosphorus probably doesn't affect healthy dogs at all )a vet nutritionist would be able to answer this). It becomes a problem when the dog has kidney disease and the kevel has to be closely watched. It doesn't cause kidney. It needs to be looked at if the dog has kidney disease.

Was just reading one of their brochures/papers (I wouldn't call it a White Paper since it doesn't really source anything) and HOLY CRAP, did you read/see this:

Quote from CC: ""A buildup of protein waste products causes kidney or liver damage. High-protein diets often promote foods such as red meat and full-fat dairy products. Some experts believe a diet rich in these foods can increase your risk of heart disease. A high-protein diet may cause liver or kidney problems because the body may have trouble eliminating all the waste products of protein metabolism.""

Those bolded parts are absolutely false / wrong. I'm actually shocked they not only put that chronic myth in there, but that *no one* caught it...???!! High protein diets DO NOT cause any liver or kidney damage in dogs or humans. There are a billion journal articles that cover this exhaustively (for humans and dogs); geesh, go to the Mayo Clinic website or any other reliable site and search this issue. Kidneys and livers work the same in humans and dogs.

The only time excess protein might be a concern is if there is an already diagnosed health issue specifically tied to protein issues (ie, already diagnosed liver or kidney disease). And on that note, some vets are even saying protein restriction in liver/kidney disease isn't really needed (awesome article, a must read, very journal-sourced): http://www.orijen.ca/orijen/Myths_of_High_Protein.pdf

For anyone needing an excellent White Paper about protein in dogs' diets, this one is excellent: http://files.championpetfoods.com/OR...hite_Paper.pdf

If such a big mistake is in Canine Caviar's brochure, I'd be really concerned what else is wrong in there. It seems to be such a great food for so many dogs here, but I hope the company really knows what they're doing/saying. That type of oversight/mistake is not good at all . Hopefully it's not indicative of larger mistakes and untruths. I hope they correct it.