Evo in the am & raw at night? - YorkieTalk.com Forums

Auntie Crazy · 09-21-2005, 08:56 PM

I've been reading and reading and I've decided to make some changes in what I feed to my little girl, Jasmine. It looks as though a completely raw diet would be best for her, but such a feeding regime is not compatible with my lifestyle.

So I thought perhaps I would feed her Innova Evo in the morning and 1 or 2 1oz medallions of Nature's Variety frozen raw foods (thawed, of course) in the evening (or a couple of ounces of a number of frozen raw foods available). Upon further research, however, I've read some very conflicting articles about mixing kibbles (the Evo) with raw meat foods; some say it's a big no no, yet other posts state that they feed raw and supplement with a kibble. I'm confused!

Can someone please put this to bed for me? Can I feed my furkbaby Evo kibbles in the morning, and an ounce or two of raw food in the evening? Or will such a diet make her sick (I'm assuming because of the enzymes issue)?

Thank you all in advance for your suggestions and help. I've learned an unbelievable amount from this forum over the last few days!

By the way, I bought a bag of Evo tonight (major surprise - $22.99 for only 13.2 lbs, whoa!) and Jasmine went so crazy over it, she was taking it from me like it was a treat! Even if I can't feed her the raw, she'll definitely be getting the Evo from now on. *smile!*

DomLee · 09-22-2005, 09:18 AM

I think that when our dogs go nuts over the introduction of a "new" food, that is because it is a different food. Much like if we had the same dish over and over, only to finally get a different dish for dinner. Not that it necessarily tastes any better, BUT because it is a different item that what they are used to...in which case...anything is better than what they are used to.

Regarding the mixing of kibble w/ raw foods. If you decide to feed your dogs raw foods, I would introduce the raw foods slowly by gradually mixing it into their kibble. At least, that is what I would do...

vainchick5 · 09-22-2005, 09:23 AM

Just be careful with Evo, it's great food and they love it but I've heard it has A LOT of protein in it and it's mostly for adult to senior dogs. I would just say be aware of your pups bodily reactions. I mix the Evo with the Innova puppy formula. Once or twice a week, I mix some broiled chicken breast with the kibble.

xtine · 09-22-2005, 09:29 AM

the evo is fine, it's all highly digestible protein, unlike poor quality foods, and the big advantage is that it is grain free.

dogs evolved as carnivorous animals and their digestive tract is designed to utilize primarily meat and fat, not carbohydrates.

things are different if a dog already suffers from liver disease, and a specialized diet may be necessary, but for that i'd have the dog thoroughly checked by a vet.

another misconception that is still floating around is that a food with a high protein content causes kidney damage. this goes back to research that has been declared as outdated quite some time ago. as long as quality protein is used (which is easily digestible), there is no problem.

EVO is supposed to be ideal for small breeds and those that need extra caloric intake. Because of the high calories it's great for small yorkies (like mine who are really skinny and have trouble putting on weight).

I hope that helps. If you have any other questions, feel free to go ahead and ask my friend any questions you may have

www.mordanna.com/dogfood

Auntie Crazy · 09-22-2005, 02:02 PM

Thanks for the replies, everyone, you have been most informative!

And this in spite of the fact that I was not clear on the specifics, for which I now apologize.

Jasmine is an adult Yorkie (8 years old, to be exact), so no worries there. She has always been fairly thin as well; she stands about 8 inches tall at the shoulder and just barely, on a good day, tips the scales at five pounds, so no worries as to weight gain either. (In fact, I'd be happy if she put on a few ounces.) She is also, sad to say, a fairly picky eater. Until I brought the Evo home, she has never, no, not once, accepted any type of dry dog food or dry treat from me (or anyone else, for that matter). She has eaten the dry dog food I've put in her bowl every night, but it's always been with reluctance. I only kept giving it to her because I thought it was the best food out there (and back when I first starting buying it, it was, but that is no longer the case).

That she not only took the Evo from me, but started doing tricks for it has impressed me to no end.

So, with the info you folks have given me, and some additional info I found on some of the older posts that I had missed last night, I've decided to go ahead and give Jaz both the Evo and the raw. I'll switch her over to the Evo over the next week...actually, I'll try to do it as slow as that, but when I got up this morning, she had scattered all her kibbles across the floor and was picking out the Evo! In any case, once she's had some time to adjust to the new kibbles, I'll add the raw to her diet.

I'm so excited and happy I've found a way to make my little furbaby's life better!

Sophie's Mom · 09-24-2005, 01:20 PM

This is my first message. We have just adopted Sophie. She is 11 months old, quite intelligent, loves us to pieces, & is eager to please, but obviously she has been fed people food too often. She just turns her nose up at dog foods. I've tried several. What is the best way to break her of this? I've been told when she gets hungry, she'll eat. But that breaks my heart. How often should she eat, and how much. She is 4 lbs. She loves treats, daddy gives her a bil-jack treat for success at the potty thing. I just want to do the right thing with her. Thanks.

SoCalyorkiLvr · 09-24-2005, 01:37 PM

I feed the raw food diet once a day and my vet said it was okay to mix raw with kibble. He is a homeopathic vet.

Sophie's Mom · 09-26-2005, 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoCalyorkiLvr

I feed the raw food diet once a day and my vet said it was okay to mix raw with kibble. He is a homeopathic vet.

So by "raw" what do you mean? Fruits and Vegs?

How much should she eat at 3-4 lbs and just about a year old?
Kibble is a brand?
Thanks.

wd6474 · 09-26-2005, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Sophie's Mom

So by "raw" what do you mean? Fruits and Vegs?

How much should she eat at 3-4 lbs and just about a year old?
Kibble is a brand?
Thanks.

kibble means dry dog food in a bag

. there's normally a weight chart on back. i would use that and good judgement. i would think what they are referring to when they saw "raw" means fruits and veggies. i wouldn't feed raw meats no more than i would eat it myself. my boy likes apples and carrots. but frozen.

Auntie Crazy · 09-26-2005, 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wd6474

kibble means dry dog food in a bag

. there's normally a weight chart on back. i would use that and good judgement. i would think what they are referring to when they saw "raw" means fruits and veggies. i wouldn't feed raw meats no more than i would eat it myself. my boy likes apples and carrots. but frozen.

Actually, no, by "raw" I meant just that. Fruits and veggies not canned or frozen are usually referred to as "fresh".

My Yorkie is 8 years old, so I couldn't tell you how much to feed your pup. This forum is absolutely stuffed with great information and extremely knowledgeable people, so you shouldn't have any trouble getting an answer to your question. You might want to start a different thread, though, because this one is about feeding a specific diet (Innova Evo and a prepared raw meat mix from Nature's Variety) to an adult dog, and your question might be lost in the mix and not be seen by the folks that can best help you.

Good luck, Sophie's Mom! Pups are so awesome!

PinkMartini · 09-26-2005, 04:30 PM

I feed an all raw diet to both of my guys and have a ton of knowledge on the subject. If I weren't able to feed a totally raw diet, Evo would be my next best choice.

Auntie Crazy · 09-26-2005, 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PinkMartini

I feed an all raw diet to both of my guys and have a ton of knowledge on the subject. If I weren't able to feed a totally raw diet, Evo would be my next best choice.

Wow, what a great confirmation for me - thanks!

I'm so amazed at how excited Jasmine is about the new food. I knew she'd love the raw meals, but she's chowin' down on the Evo like crazy. And she keeps following me around like she's waiting for me to give her yet another interesting and delicious tidbit.

I love my dog!

joey301 · 12-11-2005, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by PinkMartini

I feed an all raw diet to both of my guys and have a ton of knowledge on the subject. If I weren't able to feed a totally raw diet, Evo would be my next best choice.

I finally tried Ruggles and Smarty on some raw food. The website at Nature's variety gives the proportion to mix with kibble for each dog's weight. Anyway, Ruggles did not like it at all, he acted like he was revulsed by it (but he finally ate it). Smarty liked it. THey have had it twice now. My question is, whether the nutritional advantages of feeding raw are worth making Ruggles learn to eat the stuff. Is it common for a dog to not like raw food at first?

Joey

livingdustmops · 12-11-2005, 02:51 PM

My gang gets raw in the morning and the EVO kibble at night. The Nature's Variety sales rep said not to feed them together as it can be upsetting to their tummies. My gang jumped right into the mediallions and I thaw them overnight in the refrig.

vcabbyw · 12-11-2005, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by joey301

I finally tried Ruggles and Smarty on some raw food. The website at Nature's variety gives the proportion to mix with kibble for each dog's weight. Anyway, Ruggles did not like it at all, he acted like he was revulsed by it (but he finally ate it). Smarty liked it. THey have had it twice now. My question is, whether the nutritional advantages of feeding raw are worth making Ruggles learn to eat the stuff. Is it common for a dog to not like raw food at first?

Joey

Im sure it doesnt matter what kind of food it is, theres a dog out there who will stick their nose up to it. Plus, I know Id be a little freaked out eating something entirely new. My Yorkies excitement over getting fed raw food did increase though. Maybe it would help if you cut it up into small bite sized chunks?

09-21-2005, 08:56 PM	#1
Auntie Crazy Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Tim-buc-too Posts: 31	Evo in the am & raw at night? I've been reading and reading and I've decided to make some changes in what I feed to my little girl, Jasmine. It looks as though a completely raw diet would be best for her, but such a feeding regime is not compatible with my lifestyle. So I thought perhaps I would feed her Innova Evo in the morning and 1 or 2 1oz medallions of Nature's Variety frozen raw foods (thawed, of course) in the evening (or a couple of ounces of a number of frozen raw foods available). Upon further research, however, I've read some very conflicting articles about mixing kibbles (the Evo) with raw meat foods; some say it's a big no no, yet other posts state that they feed raw and supplement with a kibble. I'm confused! Can someone please put this to bed for me? Can I feed my furkbaby Evo kibbles in the morning, and an ounce or two of raw food in the evening? Or will such a diet make her sick (I'm assuming because of the enzymes issue)? Thank you all in advance for your suggestions and help. I've learned an unbelievable amount from this forum over the last few days! By the way, I bought a bag of Evo tonight (major surprise - $22.99 for only 13.2 lbs, whoa!) and Jasmine went so crazy over it, she was taking it from me like it was a treat! Even if I can't feed her the raw, she'll definitely be getting the Evo from now on. smile!

09-22-2005, 09:23 AM	#3
vainchick5 YT 6000 Club Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: CA Posts: 6,515	Just be careful with Evo, it's great food and they love it but I've heard it has A LOT of protein in it and it's mostly for adult to senior dogs. I would just say be aware of your pups bodily reactions. I mix the Evo with the Innova puppy formula. Once or twice a week, I mix some broiled chicken breast with the kibble. __________________ Mommy to Coco and Rocco

09-24-2005, 01:20 PM	#6
Sophie's Mom Yorkie Talk Newbie! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 2	adopted a table fed dog. Help! This is my first message. We have just adopted Sophie. She is 11 months old, quite intelligent, loves us to pieces, & is eager to please, but obviously she has been fed people food too often. She just turns her nose up at dog foods. I've tried several. What is the best way to break her of this? I've been told when she gets hungry, she'll eat. But that breaks my heart. How often should she eat, and how much. She is 4 lbs. She loves treats, daddy gives her a bil-jack treat for success at the potty thing. I just want to do the right thing with her. Thanks.

12-11-2005, 02:51 PM	#14
livingdustmops Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,810	My gang gets raw in the morning and the EVO kibble at night. The Nature's Variety sales rep said not to feed them together as it can be upsetting to their tummies. My gang jumped right into the mediallions and I thaw them overnight in the refrig. __________________ Cindy & The Rescue Gang Why do you think they call them Yorkshire Terrors!

09-22-2005, 09:18 AM	#2
DomLee YT Addict Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: SoCal Posts: 300	I think that when our dogs go nuts over the introduction of a "new" food, that is because it is a different food. Much like if we had the same dish over and over, only to finally get a different dish for dinner. Not that it necessarily tastes any better, BUT because it is a different item that what they are used to...in which case...anything is better than what they are used to. Regarding the mixing of kibble w/ raw foods. If you decide to feed your dogs raw foods, I would introduce the raw foods slowly by gradually mixing it into their kibble. At least, that is what I would do...

09-22-2005, 09:29 AM	#4
xtine Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: CA Posts: 1,394	the evo is fine, it's all highly digestible protein, unlike poor quality foods, and the big advantage is that it is grain free. dogs evolved as carnivorous animals and their digestive tract is designed to utilize primarily meat and fat, not carbohydrates. things are different if a dog already suffers from liver disease, and a specialized diet may be necessary, but for that i'd have the dog thoroughly checked by a vet. another misconception that is still floating around is that a food with a high protein content causes kidney damage. this goes back to research that has been declared as outdated quite some time ago. as long as quality protein is used (which is easily digestible), there is no problem. EVO is supposed to be ideal for small breeds and those that need extra caloric intake. Because of the high calories it's great for small yorkies (like mine who are really skinny and have trouble putting on weight). I hope that helps. If you have any other questions, feel free to go ahead and ask my friend any questions you may have www.mordanna.com/dogfood

09-22-2005, 02:02 PM	#5
Auntie Crazy Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Tim-buc-too Posts: 31	Thanks for the replies, everyone, you have been most informative! And this in spite of the fact that I was not clear on the specifics, for which I now apologize. Jasmine is an adult Yorkie (8 years old, to be exact), so no worries there. She has always been fairly thin as well; she stands about 8 inches tall at the shoulder and just barely, on a good day, tips the scales at five pounds, so no worries as to weight gain either. (In fact, I'd be happy if she put on a few ounces.) She is also, sad to say, a fairly picky eater. Until I brought the Evo home, she has never, no, not once, accepted any type of dry dog food or dry treat from me (or anyone else, for that matter). She has eaten the dry dog food I've put in her bowl every night, but it's always been with reluctance. I only kept giving it to her because I thought it was the best food out there (and back when I first starting buying it, it was, but that is no longer the case). That she not only took the Evo from me, but started doing tricks for it has impressed me to no end. So, with the info you folks have given me, and some additional info I found on some of the older posts that I had missed last night, I've decided to go ahead and give Jaz both the Evo and the raw. I'll switch her over to the Evo over the next week...actually, I'll try to do it as slow as that, but when I got up this morning, she had scattered all her kibbles across the floor and was picking out the Evo! In any case, once she's had some time to adjust to the new kibbles, I'll add the raw to her diet. I'm so excited and happy I've found a way to make my little furbaby's life better!

09-24-2005, 01:37 PM	#7
SoCalyorkiLvr BANNED! Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 8,246	I feed the raw food diet once a day and my vet said it was okay to mix raw with kibble. He is a homeopathic vet.

09-26-2005, 04:30 PM	#11
PinkMartini BANNED! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: California Posts: 1,043	I feed an all raw diet to both of my guys and have a ton of knowledge on the subject. If I weren't able to feed a totally raw diet, Evo would be my next best choice.