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06-14-2015, 03:52 PM | #1 |
YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: La Crosse
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| regaining yorkies trust. This is a long story and there about 3 parts to it but here it goes. So Yes I admit i spanked my girlfriends yorkie and i feel so bad and i have lost all the trust of this poor guy and im sad because he really loved me like he would pee out of excitement when i would dog sit him when we were around my gf he would want nothing to do with her thats the 1st part. 2nd part I watched him another time months ago my girlfriend said it was okay if i pop him he would act up. So i started to then it got real excessive but he would still love on me so i thought it was fine boy was I wrong because he stopped eating treats from me if its just me and him he wont even look at a treat or eat his food and i dont know what i did to make him think its not okay for him to eat then i told myself im not hitting this guy again and things got better he was semi back to his normal self eating treats from my hand and he was excitied to see me again and i was happy thats the 2nd part. Now the 3rd part after all that i dog sat him and i had some guy friends over he was fine playing with them and listening to me when i said stuff but they left and things got ugly i relapsed and spanked him on the butt and he actually ran away under somebody's car i tried to grab him from under there and he bit me i was surprised that he did he never shows his teeth at all he knows better then when i watched him at my girlfriends place he was fine i took him outside and when he came back in he got so scared and sat on the other couch i dont know what i did to make him feel so sad and scared when he comes home from a walk. he ran under the bed and i tried grabbing him again he tried biting the whole day we were going back and forth he was trying to bite me and i was spanking him for trying to bite me. when came home one night from the bar he usually greets us with excitement he saw me first and ran right under the bed. I know i have lost all of his trust he probably thinks im the predator now even though he does lay on me and sleeps on me he's really scared if its just me and him he immediately tucks his little tail in between his legs. and gets shakes when i pet him or if i get close to his but he will scream or shake because i hate it so much and im really upset with myself. I admitted to her that i spanked him good for biting me she was kind of upset but told me i can if hes acting up. I really messed up i know i probably not regain his trust in a long time but I'm willing to try i just want him to know that i love him. He still comes to me and lays on me so is that a good sign? sorry for the extremly long post I feel like an abusier for the hitting ive done to him and im very upset with myself. I will not hit him again i watched him the past 3 days and i did not hit him and he hasnt tried biting me either when he goes under the bed so i hope thats a good sign? any advice. |
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06-15-2015, 05:33 AM | #2 |
Furbutts = LOVE Donating Member Moderator | First, welcome to YT, I'm glad you found us . Okay, so first of all -- it sounds like you truly do care for this little guy, so that's the the most important thing...you care enough to make this better...and that's wonderful. But -- you should never, ever, ever, hit him again - not EVER. Not even if he bites you. He's biting you bc you were violent with him and he is terrified and feels he needs to defend himself, okay? So, *you* taught him to behave in every way he's behaving right now....make sure you make that connection in your head. So, it's you who needs to undo your behavior so that he can then trust and learn that he can undo his behavior. It will take time. He will need time to learn that he *can* trust you again...but to me, it does sound like he can/will get there since he's still willing to even come by you. Just remember though - You.Can.Never.Hit.Him.Again.
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06-15-2015, 05:38 AM | #3 |
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| Thanks I appreciate your advice. I feel bad because he's become aggressive to other dogs she said. It will take time but we will get there thanks |
06-15-2015, 05:45 AM | #4 | |
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06-15-2015, 07:07 AM | #5 |
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| I will admit that I have a hard time welcoming you to a forum of people who really love these little dogs and want to treat them like gold. The only glimmer of hope is that you can be taught by the loving owners here. Corporal punishment is never needed on a small dog. Frankly, as one of the male members on this board I am appalled that you would ever think of it as acceptable. It speaks to your character as well. If I was your girlfriend I would worry that you think its ok to strike a small animal to correct them, even though she was the one dumb enough to suggest it. "girlfriend said it was okay if i pop him he would act up. So i started to then it got real excessive" Just from this part of a sentence, I wonder if she is up to being a pet owner as well AND I have to wonder what you mean when you say it got "real excessive". God, this post turns my stomach and I sincerely hope you both get your collective s**t together and somehow turn into good puppy owners. Prayers for your girlfriend's dog.
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06-15-2015, 02:10 PM | #6 |
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| The ball is in your court. You have in front of you one of the most loving, most forgiving creatures that God put on this earth. If you treat him the way you would want to be treated yourself he will worship the ground you walk on. He will show you more love and loyalty than you can ever imagine. You say you will not hit him again and if this is true you can expect a lifetime of joy from your furbaby. If you cannot keep that promise PLEASE immediately get him to a home that will give him the love he deserves. Hitting a defenseless animal who is that small does not reflect well on you. But the fact that you are here asking for help and advice is the 1st step in the right direction. I am no angel and have done many things in my life that I regret and I know that the best way to get over that regret is to spend the rest of your life making it up to the one you hurt. He will not be perfect. He will do things you don't like him doing. He will aggravate you at times. But he will never stop loving you and if you remember that you can keep your promise and he will forgive you. Good luck to you and your little one.
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06-15-2015, 02:58 PM | #7 |
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| Russpilot That is okay with me. You don't have to accept to this forum and I accept all the critism I know I'm not perfect and neither are you there are probably areas in your life where you may need to get your sh*t together as well. Thank you. |
06-15-2015, 03:16 PM | #9 | |
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Jace2009, I promise you that positive reinforcement training is much, much more effective with Yorkies. Best wishes in setting yourself right and restoring your relationship with this little dog.
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06-15-2015, 03:19 PM | #10 |
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| Any suggestions of methods I could use. He doesn't really listen to me anymore unless i tell him to come to me. Every time I say treat he gets sad, he wont eat treats around me or from me unless my girlfriend is around and giving it to him. |
06-15-2015, 03:24 PM | #11 | |
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I would come up with a different word to replace treat. Reward? Be patient with him. Let him come back to you on his own terms.
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06-15-2015, 03:30 PM | #12 |
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| I would say running away, getting on the kitchen tables to try and eat human food, usually not listening when I would have to say "no" like 6 or 7 times. Example a couple nights ago I think there may have been some liquid substance on our bedroom cover and he kept licking/biting me and my girlfriend kept saying "no" about the 6th time i moved his face from the part he kept licking about 3 or 4 times he wouldn't stop so i popped him then he stopped. |
06-16-2015, 07:31 AM | #13 | |
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06-16-2015, 08:56 AM | #14 |
YT 1000 Club Member | What you are saying is that he is being a dog? My dogs like to like my suede leather couch, I have no idea why. I just tell them to leave it and if I have to I move them from the situation. Distract them with a toy, etc. They are dogs, that is what they do. My puppies steal socks that they find. I take them away and put them where they can not get them (in the dirty clothes). They do this everyday, every chance they get. I don't hit them for it. I put the sock up. If my family didn't leave their socks out I wouldn't have to do this so much, but my family does leave their socks out so I continue to take them away. They are dogs. They are just doing dog things. It doesn't mean I let them chew up people's socks, but I don't hit them for it either. My older Yorkie gets into the trash. Do I hit him? NO. I take out the trash if something really good smelling was put in it (good smelling to a dog) or I leave stuff on top of the stove until it is almost full and ready to take out instead of throwing it in the trash for him to dump and eat out of. Is this a bad habit, of course. He was 9 years old when I got him and had this habit, but I don't spank him for it. Licking the blanket isn't what I would even consider a major offense. That is pretty darn minor in my book. You need to redirect his attention to something else. Give him a nyla bone or a toy and play with him instead. Move him off the bed, something else. I can not even imagine hitting any of my 3 Yorkies. Of course I have nearly grown children so what the dogs get into is comical to me even when they are being bad they are so cute doing it. If you are going to hit the dog again then do yourself and the dog a favor and leave the girlfriend so you aren't around her dog, he deserves better than that. If you will hit the dog for such minor offenses then what will you do to a child? Believe me, children will do much worse things than this little dog is doing.
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06-16-2015, 10:22 AM | #15 | ||
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Getting on the table: is he using chairs to do this? Push the chairs under the table so that he cannot climb. Work on the "down" command and have safe, small food rewards when he obeys. When you and your girlfriend eat, ignore your dog. When you finish eating and doing your thing, sit on the floor and play with him a little. He will eventually get the message that meal time is your time. Licking things: work on "leave it" as Maxdog explained. Use distraction techniques. General training techniques: maintain calm, never show anger or frustration. Your negative energy will only fuel his negative energy. Ignoring the dog when safe to do so is very effective. My Max has a couple of irritating games he likes to play (eating leaves that have fallen from our ficus tree). I used to chase him for the leaves and he reveled in it. Now when he does this, I say, "Okay, I'm leaving the room." We have baby gates that separate parts of the house and I just step over the baby gates. He immediately stops the irritating game. Quote:
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