regaining yorkies trust.

[Russpilot]

Originally Posted by JadeD

If you are going to hit the dog again then do yourself and the dog a favor and leave the girlfriend so you aren't around her dog, he deserves better than that. If you will hit the dog for such minor offenses then what will you do to a child? Believe me, children will do much worse things than this little dog is doing.

Exactly what I wanted to end my first post with.
What part of do not hit the dog are you not getting? You have issues if violence is the only solution you can come up with.
I know I am being rough on you here but the dog does not deserve to be abused and that is what it is on such a small breed.

[cristinaberger]

Why are you guys cuddling this SOB? His brain is a fart, he is constantly asking what did I do wrong? Are you kidding me? And he probably hits people too if he does that to a dog. Some people are not worth the dust on their shoes.

[teasell]

Russpilot you hit the nail on the head. I was about to say the same thing.


I hope he and his girlfriend will change their ways. This pour pup sure does not need to be punished.

[dawn27]

It takes a lot of balls to come to this forum surrounded by a ton of people who love our fur babies and consider them family and admit what you did and it takes even bigger balls to admit you are wrong and ask for help ! Kudos to you . .

You definitely came to the right place and I pray this thread doesn't turn ugly as some can do. You've been given some great advise from several YTers so just try your best but don't expect a miracle to happen, it will take time and lots of it to regain his trust. Best of Luck !!

[matese]

Why does this thread look so familiar. Last year we had the same exact post, word for word in the opening thread."poping the dog while baby sitting for the g/f" so lets start anew. The dog gets on the table, he wouldn't if YOU slide the chairs UNDER the table. I had a yorkie that did the very same thing, I TRAINED MYSELF to slide the chairs under the table, eliminate temptation. Dog gets scared of you and runs for protection under the bed, bites you when you try to get him out from under the bed, sure he's gonna bite you, you already beat him up, you think he's gonna come out to you to get another beating? I think not, he is a wee little thing next to you, his defense is to protect himself from DANGER, and you are the DANGER. Licking the blanket, wow, really serious, enough to beat this little dog.... Dog runs under a car, why is this dog off the leash, especially when you know you have NO CONTROL over him, he does not always listen to you. You and the G/F have to tell him no several times before he does listen, that is because he was NOT TRAINED correctly to start off with, NOT the dogs fault, fault of the owner. So lets start with proper training of this dog. As a member suggested use the command word of "leave it". Start off with putting the dog is a sit and stay position, have 2 treats one in one hand the other treat in your other hand, put one treat on the floor about 8 inches from where he is sitting give command word of "stay" (and I hope he knows that command) then say "leave it" now he's gonna be anxious and he's gonna want that treat, keep him in the sit and stay position for only one minute, if he stays and does not go for the treat, pick up THAT treat and give him the 2nd one you have in your other had, repeat this one or 2 more times for NO MORE then 5 minutes. Do this several times through out the day. Short 5 minutes training. This poor dog was never trained properly, so he gets beaten for not listening, how can he obey when he doesn't know the words you are using. Teach sit, stay, down, leave it, get it. If you or your G/F do not know how to train invest a few bucks and take dog for obedience training. This training is for US the owners, teaches us the proper way to train your dog, it gives us the tools to use at home to train our pups. And let me repeat what others have already written, NEVER, EVER, pop, smack, slap, hit or beat a dog, this instills FEAR, not obedience. I am biting my tongue here and will leave with the training I have offered you. I pray to god you and your the G/F will take all the help, advise, suggestions, the HELP you have come here and asked for.

[Harrysmum]

Originally Posted by matese

Why does this thread look so familiar. Last year we had the same exact post, word for word in the opening thread."poping the dog while baby sitting for the g/f"

Joan, I know exactly what you mean - when I first started reading this thread I thought - "I've read all this before". Then I looked at the date, and saw it was last Sunday 14th....I truly thought I was going nuts Thank goodness you're going nuts too!!!

[JadeD]

There was an almost identical thread about 6-8 weeks ago as well. I had to search and go find it and it is almost word for word as well.

I was actually beginning to think that someone is just posting this to see our reactions to it. It is a different user from the last one, but so closely worded that it does sound like the same person wrote it. If there was another one a year ago almost identical then maybe a moderator should look into IP addresses and see if this is coming from the same person.

The wording from the one several weeks ago is literally identical to this one. I thought it very odd.

[maxdog]

can you post the links to the old posts?

[cristinaberger]

Somebody is definitely messing with you all. Takes guts to come here and say that you hurt a dog? BS! No excuses for the abusers please.

[maxdog]

90% of abusers will keep abusing (and they should be hung by their balls). But if we can help that 10% change their ways it's worth trying. As someone said in another thread (I think it was Ann), don't do it for the person - do it for the dog.

[cristinaberger]

You can't change someone by telling them not to abuse the dog. The change has to come from the inside and it involves over-hauling your entire view of the life and the world around you. As someone who dealt with abusers, I can tell you that they will not change due to exterior forces. They will always relapse and cry and wine and be sorry and blame everyone else for their s**tty lives.

[JadeD]

I don't know if this will work.

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/gen...need-help.html

This is the thread I am referring to. As far as a year ago though I wasn't on Yorkie Talk and wouldn't know the best way to find that one.

It would be interesting to see if this is the same person coming from the same IP address.

[maxdog]

Originally Posted by cristinaberger

You can't change someone by telling them not to abuse the dog. The change has to come from the inside and it involves over-hauling your entire view of the life and the world around you. As someone who dealt with abusers, I can tell you that they will not change due to exterior forces. They will always relapse and cry and wine and be sorry and blame everyone else for their s**tty lives.

I agree with everything you said. Nothing from the outside will make a person change. It must come from the inside. An alcoholic will not stop drinking because you tell them to stop. A junkie will not stop shooting because you tell him it is wrong. As you said it must come from the inside. But when it does come from the inside, that is when they need the help the most from the outside. That is when we CAN make a difference. They cannot do it alone. Many, even though it does come from the inside, will still fail. If we can help one animal, one woman, one child, shouldn't we try?

Having said all that I still think abusers should be hung by their balls.

[pstinard]

Originally Posted by JadeD

I don't know if this will work.

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/gen...need-help.html

This is the thread I am referring to. As far as a year ago though I wasn't on Yorkie Talk and wouldn't know the best way to find that one.

It would be interesting to see if this is the same person coming from the same IP address.

I'd say that it's more likely than not the same person posting under a different profile, especially the statements about the need to "regain my girlfriend's Yorkie's trust." If any of the Yorkietalk detectives could post the link to the post from a year ago, I'd appreciate it. Then maybe we can figure out what's going on. At this point, it looks like a "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me" situation. I have no sympathy for someone who would abuse a Yorkie, and I have even less sympathy for someone who is trying to pull our collective legs.

[Wylie's Mom]

Originally Posted by cristinaberger

Why are you guys cuddling this SOB? His brain is a fart, he is constantly asking what did I do wrong? Are you kidding me? And he probably hits people too if he does that to a dog. Some people are not worth the dust on their shoes.

Well....this kind of thinking is predicated upon the belief that human beings are incapable of change. Personally, I think it's worth trying to reach out to someone else who is at least trying to reach out. Where's the harm in trying to be helpful if there is a chance to help the dog in this case live a better life?

Unless the person is a psychopath, sociopath or similar...I am one who always hopes for the potential to change.