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Old 05-26-2011, 05:30 AM   #1
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My breeder is nice but she is feeding my Twix Ol'Roy and I'm just not a fan of the setup at her home. Nothing bad, but its not a great situation and it bothers me that my Yorkie has to stay there. I can't function right knowing that he is in a crate all day, he is with another Yorkie and I think 2 Maltese so I'm sure he is socializing BUT he needs more....he needs us!

I will be moving in a month but I feel my dog needs me now, I've had this feeling everyday! However, my current apartment does not allow pets. I have already informed them that I will be moving in July. My question is, do you think it would be noticeable if I brought Twix home this weekend?

Do they bark loud at 3 1/2 months old? I don't wanna disturb the neighbors or cause issues! I just want my boy to be loved and happy!
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If you think your Yorkie would be better off with you than the breeder, I have to question why you would choose this breeder. Hope you get a really good health guarantee.

As for barking at that age, some do and some don't. Best to consider the consequences if you are caught. What will happen to you and what will happen to the pup if your landlord discovers you are breaking the rules?
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Old 05-26-2011, 05:42 AM   #3
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If you think your Yorkie would be better off with you than the breeder, I have to question why you would choose this breeder. Hope you get a really good health guarantee.

As for barking at that age, some do and some don't. Best to consider the consequences if you are caught. What will happen to you and what will happen to the pup if your landlord discovers you are breaking the rules?

I have to agree. I would think staying w its breeder would be the best thing for the little one until you are in a place that allows him. Why do you think he is not in a good place?

He has a ways to be housetrained, and that would also probably not make your landlord very happy. Puppies have accidents.
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Thanks! I don't wanna bad mouth the breeder. Nothing bad about her at all. I just didn't like that she fed them Ol'Roy and that it seems they stayed in the crate all day. She had several puppies, maybe around 20. She is an elderly lady and I know she can't handle them all and give them individual moments of love.

Her daughter does most of the work and her communication sucks. I haven't been able to reach her yet. I've emailed her twice and no response. I think she might be upset because her mom took off $150 from the price. The mom even said her daughter will freak out when she runs across the transaction in the books and I guess that is exactly what happened!

I'm going to visit my dog this weekend and talk to him, hopefully he can tell me if he is being cared for correctly lol.

I'm taking a collar to help easily identify him from his brother because they looked very similar and I don't want them to sell the wrong dog. The mom said she would paint one of his toe nails to ID him but I'm not sure if she did!

I WANT MY DOG! This month can't go by fast enough!! Everytime I go to the store I'm coming out with bags and bags of puppy supplies! I'm addicted!
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A collar on a pup kept in a kennel would not be a good idea. The collar can get caught in the cage and choke the pup.

This does not sound like a good situation. I know you are eager to have a pup, but you should understand the risk of buying from this breeder.

Is she giving you a really good health guarantee?

So many red flags -- too many puppy litters, multiple breeds, older woman not capable of caring for the pups, feeding Ol Roy.

Keep in mind, a sick Yorkie can run up thousands of dollars in medical bills. A pup can look healthy when you pick them up, but a few days or weeks later, everything can go downhill fast. This is often what happens with bad breeding.
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I hate to jump on the band wagon and come down on the breeder but I have to say the things you mention about her are all red flags! First and foremost I don't think any dog should be fed Old Roy. You would think if you have high $$$ dogs like Yorkies and that you are breeding them and making $$$, she could at least feed good quality food.

I assume you have already paid for your pup or you could look elsewhere for a better breeder.

When you go for your visit maybe you could take a bag of GOOD dog food and ask if she can start feeding your pup that food so that he can transition into something you will be feeding at your home. Also when you go you should take your own odd color nail polish and mark the toe nails for yourself so you don't end up with a different dog.

Make sure you also do a very good visual check up on your dog, like eyes, mouth, tail, check for hernias, ect.

In any case, good luck with your new baby and hope you get to bring him home soon.
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Old 05-26-2011, 06:19 AM   #7
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Thanks! I don't wanna bad mouth the breeder. Nothing bad about her at all. I just didn't like that she fed them Ol'Roy and that it seems they stayed in the crate all day. She had several puppies, maybe around 20. She is an elderly lady and I know she can't handle them all and give them individual moments of love.

Her daughter does most of the work and her communication sucks. I haven't been able to reach her yet. I've emailed her twice and no response. I think she might be upset because her mom took off $150 from the price. The mom even said her daughter will freak out when she runs across the transaction in the books and I guess that is exactly what happened!

I'm going to visit my dog this weekend and talk to him, hopefully he can tell me if he is being cared for correctly lol.

I'm taking a collar to help easily identify him from his brother because they looked very similar and I don't want them to sell the wrong dog. The mom said she would paint one of his toe nails to ID him but I'm not sure if she did!

I WANT MY DOG! This month can't go by fast enough!! Everytime I go to the store I'm coming out with bags and bags of puppy supplies! I'm addicted!
Um, you say there's nothing "bad" about this breeder, then you list all the bad things LOL I wouldn't feed Ol Roy to my worst enemy's dog. Leaving dogs in crates continuously isn't good for them, and with so many puppies and dogs, how can they possibly be well cared for? If I were you, I'd be getting my money back and looking elsewhere. Unfortunately, puppies that come from situations like this are often sickly and end up racking up vet bills in the thousands. And that's if they survive I'm really not trying to be rude, I just hope to help you understand what you're in for if you go through with the purchase of this pup. I wish you all the best, truly
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Yeah- this sounds like a terrible situation- I would never buy from someone who I wasn't comfortable with having my dog. I had a short trip planned before I got my first Yorkie- I worked it out with the breeder and I took him home for a few weeks to start to get him settled in and then she watched him while I was away- she didn't want him with a stranger at such a young age. I had no issues sending him back there- if I thought she mistreated him or couldn't properly care for him, I never would have taken him in the first place.

20 puppies is ALOT! And it seems odd to me that a breeder can't keep track of which puppy was sold to which person??? Nail polish on the toenail at such an advanced age?

All of my dogs have at the very least cried at that age- when left alone, when put in the crate at night- I don't think it is very easy to hide a dog.
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Oh man, and if they're unresponsive NOW, before the final sale, just wait until you have a problem later on. Please please please re-think this whole thing
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Old 05-26-2011, 06:22 AM   #10
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Awww....I know you are dying!! I have a 3 month old..he rarely barks unless hes really playing hard, and even then, its such a tiny yap. I do agree this breeder doesnt sound like the greatest...especially the choice of food! If it were me, Id go rescue my baby....

As far as health concerns, I agree witht he others...be prepared! Hopefully he will be happy, healthy and live a long wonderful life! You just never know with these little ones...mine are all covered by PetPlan just to be safe...you might check into that!!!

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I've been getting by with TWO dogs in a no dog apartment for almost a year now... my neighbors love them... even thought they get barked at haha. I even put Tikka out in the yard on a cable and no one minds.

I actually think we might be allowed 1 small dog, but def not two haha. We're the only ones with dogs.
I would say if its for less than a month or so you'll be fine.


Also, I agree with the other posts, I know you are eager for your puppy, but did you buy out of eagerness too? Def. get your puppy vet checked as soon as you bring him/her home and get the recommended testing done... Bile Acid, LP, and look for a quality food from the list here on YT. I'm not an expert but I have learned A LOT on here.
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Also let me add... I was VERY eager to buy a Yorkie for my birthday. I had read about Yorkie care on here, but didn't find the reputable breeder site until I had already purchased Tikka from her family, she is 9 months old, 8 months when I got her. Already she has something wrong with her and the vet bills are adding up. She has a UTI that isn't going away and now I am switching pills and going to get blood work and urine cutlures taken... it's gets pricey!
She also 8.6lbs, I was told she would be 4lbs, then they said 7lbs, then my vets scale showed 8.6 lol... I LOVE her though bigger is much better! But she isn't the breed standard that every breeder should breed for. [4-7lbs is a good standard weight I say]
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Usually when an apartment doesn't allow dogs they can give you a real hard time. When we bought our home we bought two basset hounds figuring that we were only going to be there a month. Well all you need is one big mouth neighbor and forget it. We had all kinds of problems with the landlord, even threatened to take us to court, but maybe with a yorkie it wont be as bad. It depends on the landlord.
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Well, you're the only one who would be able to know whether or not the pup will go unnoticed in your appartment. He could bark, he may not. Does the place have wall to wall carpet? What would happen if after you moved the landlord saw a stain that you couldn't get out? Those kinds of things are what I would think about there. What would I do? If I really thought no one would notice, I'd take him now.

As far as the bandwagon here and whether or not to even take him - well, I'm not gonna lie and say I wouldn't, especially if you're already attached to him. BUT - this is a BAD breeding situation for sure no matter how nice the lady is. I just hope you're not paying a lot of money for him. I'd 'rescue' a FREE dog from a situation like that, but I'd never in a billion years pay for one coming from that kind of a breeder. Like was said, if you're paying for him you better have a good health guarantee. To be perfectly frank, I honestly think that woman should be reported - 20 puppies! in cages! being fed garbage! it's just sounds really aweful to me. Alice came from a BYB that works with a relative of mine, but she was free and they only had one litter and the dogs had a huge area in the kitchen to be in and a fenced in yard to play in, were held and played with etc. I still wouldn't have paid for her though and that home was WAY better than the one you're describing Twix is coming from. Hopefully he's nice and healthy for you. Good luck.
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If you are already committed to this baby financially or emotionally and are prepared for the possible fall out from buying from a questionable breeder, I would get him out as soon as possible. If he is 3 1/2 months now I would try and take him home this weekend. I am not one to break the rules but if you can either keep him quiet or tell the building management that it is only for 1 month and you will pay for any damages he/she will make an exception. I hope it all works out.
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