I can't do it!

[Jennxling]

Originally Posted by capt_noonie

It's probably best you have never heard of Ol Roy, they are sold exclusively at WalMarts

Ol’ Roy Dog Food | Review and Rating Prepared to be disgusted.

And a link within the review has some interesting info about grains in cheap dog foods. Dog Food Grains Linked to Allergies and Other Diseases

Thanks for the link! That's a great food website! We often switch food because I got really pick eaters over here so it will come in handy.

I would never buy dog food, toys, & treats for my babies at walmart! That's definitely a terrible breeder because a good breeder would try their best to feed the best for their dogs. Gross! animal bones and fat?

OP, I would go get that baby out asap! I think it's better sneaking him at your apartment than leaving him there. I think their nutrition at a young age is VERY important. A dog I rescued this year, she had so many problems due to malnutrition at a young age!

[YorkDaddy]

The daughter is the boss from tracking and record keeping so to speak. She works a full time job and has children to take care of. The mother is retired and doesn't have any kids to take care of but the dogs.

I didn't say the conditions were horrible. I hated the fact that she feeds them Ol'Roy and I didn't like the fact that he was in a crate all day. Do I know this to be law, no! However, I know at home with me he would have more space and 100% attention!

I made this post to get thoughts from fellow Yorkie lovers, I was not looking for an "ok". I wanted opinions. I met the breeder a few weeks back and was really impressed by her. It was upon another visit when I was sad about our baby sitting there when he could be with his new family!

After talking to several vets today I was informed that him being on it for another month wouldn't be that bad, but his food will be changing the day I get him. I will take food there on Saturday when I go spend time with him.

Yorkiemini, I wish I had a friend that I could do that with! That would be great for my dog and the pizza for my stomach lol.

Jennxling, your situation worked out beautifully! I'm tempted to try it especially since its only a month. I will see how things go on Saturday.

[YorkDaddy]

I heard good reviews from 2 people about her puppies and I met her and loved her spirit and her other dogs were all healthy. I met the parents of my Yorkie and they were beautiful, healthy and had great personalities.

I have a great health warranty, got the dog for a "steal" and I am providing him with a good loving home (in 30 days, if I wait). That's all that matters to me!

[Jennxling]

Originally Posted by YorkDaddy

The daughter is the boss from tracking and record keeping so to speak. She works a full time job and has children to take care of. The mother is retired and doesn't have any kids to take care of but the dogs.

I didn't say the conditions were horrible. I hated the fact that she feeds them Ol'Roy and I didn't like the fact that he was in a crate all day. Do I know this to be law, no! However, I know at home with me he would have more space and 100% attention!

I made this post to get thoughts from fellow Yorkie lovers, I was not looking for an "ok". I wanted opinions. I met the breeder a few weeks back and was really impressed by her. It was upon another visit when I was sad about our baby sitting there when he could be with his new family!

After talking to several vets today I was informed that him being on it for another month wouldn't be that bad, but his food will be changing the day I get him. I will take food there on Saturday when I go spend time with him.

Yorkiemini, I wish I had a friend that I could do that with! That would be great for my dog and the pizza for my stomach lol.

Jennxling, your situation worked out beautifully! I'm tempted to try it especially since its only a month. I will see how things go on Saturday.

Can you bring food and ask her to feed that to him instead?? I don't think she would mind...it saves money on her food. Also, when you do switch, make sure you switch gradually as yorkies have sensitive stomach. Best of luck to you!

[YorkDaddy]

I'm definitely taking some food to her on Saturday to start the switch so she can introduce him to that. She also said that she would move him away from his brother and other 2 friends closer to the time I will pick him up so he will be use to being the only dog around. That way his only adjustment will be to the new environment.

Should I have her separate him or should he stay among his "classmates" until he graduates?

[Sweetlips6]

Originally Posted by Jennxling

Can you bring food and ask her to feed that to him instead?? I don't think she would mind...it saves money on her food. Also, when you do switch, make sure you switch gradually as yorkies have sensitive stomach. Best of luck to you!

If you have your heart set on this baby, I think this is a good idea. At least you could rest knowing he/she will be getting the food you think is best.
Just say "When baby gets to our home, we want to feed -----. Would you please start feeding her/him so there won't be any issues when we get baby home?"
Good luck with your little one.

[YorkDaddy]

Thank you!!

The breeder is sweet and she said she will do whatever I want for my dog. She stated this is your baby, I'm just babysitting. I'm going to do some research and see if I can find a local pet shop that could work out a deal with her for a better quality food at a great price since she will be buying so much.

I don't think she will be offended, its all in the delivery and I know how to talk to people without it seeming like I'm talking down to them which unfortunately is not a skill everyone has!

[Patti]

When I got Cali they separated the litter mates the last week. Maybe breeders who have experience in this can advise wether it is better to leave them together or not. Cali was the first puppy that I crate trained. All my others were enclosed in a puppy proof room. I had a playpen set up for her and she did great in it from day one. She settled down when left alone with out any problems. It sounds like you are prepared for Twix's arrival.

[YorkDaddy]

I'm doing the Playpen thing as well Ms. Patti. It seems like it would be great for him. Plenty of play room and I like that its raised off the ground. I will put another bed in it and a lot of toys.

We are thinking of getting a companion for him. I might hold off until Christmas for that! The good thing is I will already have everything I need since I bought multiples of everything lol.

Shopping for my Twix is such an addiction and he is not even here yet. I can only imagine when he comes!

[Patti]

I put Cali's bed and blankets a tone end of the play pen and her pee pad at the other. She never messed on her bedding always used the pads. I think it's nice for them to have a companion. It's fun to watch them interact. Keep us posted on how it goes this weekend.

[ladyjane]

Anyone who has so many pups that they cannot afford to feed pups better food has too many of them period. Why would you be the one to bargain shop for better food? And, you say you have a great health warranty? Who is going to pay if there is a problem with this pup? Surely not this breeder.

I hear you making a lot of excuses for her. Sad imo. I see people like her and the results of her kind of breeding on a daily basis...and I see people just like you who are so wanting a puppy that they ignore the obvious.

I am sorry that this is probably not what you want to hear....and I am very aware that you are going to purchase this puppy no matter what anyone here says. BUT...I would be remiss if I did not point out just the bare minimum here.

Will look forward to seeing your new puppy once you get him.

[ArmaniMan]

Originally Posted by YorkDaddy

I have a great health warranty, got the dog for a "steal" and I am providing him with a good loving home (in 30 days, if I wait). That's all that matters to me!

Just remember many times "cheap dogs" end up being the most expensive in the long run.

[YorkDaddy]

Hey LadyJane,

I totally understand what you are saying and I appreciate the way you said it. You stated your opinion/P.O.V without talking down!

Unfortunately she already has half of the money and although its not a lot, I'm not willing to throw it away. Plus the most important fact that my family already loves our dog and will do everything to take care of him financially and emotionally. We accept that responsibility!

Would I use her again or recommend her to anyone else, no! Those who recommended her to me probably have no idea about the quality of Ol'Roy! They just know they have happy and healthy new members to their family and they will cherish them forever.

I don't feel I am making excuses for her. I think she can definitely make some major improvements and I will sit down and talk with her as I feel she just doesn't know a lot about certain things. She stated she has been breeding and raising dogs for around 30 years. Her main issue is that I think she does everything the same way she use to 30 years ago and hasn't adapted to more current methods and ways. Is she a bad person for that, I don't believe so! I think she is just ignorant to many of the things we can learn from the internet or talking to other people. She would greatly benefit from YT! She lives far out in the country, with no computer access and its just her, her immediate family and her fur babies!

I'm hoping I can assist her with the knowledge she is lacking. If she decides not to use it, then that's a problem!

Thanks again!

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by YorkDaddy

Hey LadyJane,

I totally understand what you are saying and I appreciate the way you said it. You stated your opinion/P.O.V without talking down!

Unfortunately she already has half of the money and although its not a lot, I'm not willing to throw it away. Plus the most important fact that my family already loves our dog and will do everything to take care of him financially and emotionally. We accept that responsibility!

Would I use her again or recommend her to anyone else, no! Those who recommended her to me probably have no idea about the quality of Ol'Roy! They just know they have happy and healthy new members to their family and they will cherish them forever.

I don't feel I am making excuses for her. I think she can definitely make some major improvements and I will sit down and talk with her as I feel she just doesn't know a lot about certain things. She stated she has been breeding and raising dogs for around 30 years. Her main issue is that I think she does everything the same way she use to 30 years ago and hasn't adapted to more current methods and ways. Is she a bad person for that, I don't believe so! I think she is just ignorant to many of the things we can learn from the internet or talking to other people. She would greatly benefit from YT! She lives far out in the country, with no computer access and its just her, her immediate family and her fur babies!

I'm hoping I can assist her with the knowledge she is lacking. If she decides not to use it, then that's a problem!

Thanks again!

Good luck with that! She has been doing it for 30 years and must be making money or would not continue. She has been finding people like you who love the pups and taking advantage of them for all these years....all the while at the expense of the pups. I can guarantee you that she has produced some real messes. As I said, it is very sad.

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by ArmaniMan

Just remember many times "cheap dogs" end up being the most expensive in the long run.

Oh, Amen to that!