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Old 01-18-2011, 06:15 AM   #1
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Unhappy Reesie & Snickers are BEST FRIENDS.....NOT!!!

So Reesie's long weekend homecoming has been great! He is an AMAZING PUPPY!! So happy, full of life, loving, and pees and poops on his pad!!! We all loove him....except....SNICKERS!!!!!

SNICKERS IS NOT AMUSED!!!!! I know it is normal for older Yorkies to not be so fond of the new puppy, but it is HARD to watch!! Any pointers?? I know he will come around, he makes progress everyday (little!!!) Snick sniffs Reesie all the time before/after growling at him & running away. Yesterday I was holding baby Reesie and Snick came and sat by us. Snick is eating/pooping/peeing fine. He even shares our bed with Reesie as long as I am there laying in the middle to split them!

They are in separate xpens while we are at work...our doggy nanny is coming over this week daily to play with them mid-day. Should I keep their xpens close together or on opposite sides of the room? They have been on opposite sides so far. Any other pointers? I can't walk them together until Reesie's shots are done. I'm doing everything for Snick 1st of course...food, praise, treats, attention, walking through doors etc.

Thanks a million..I want them to be friends SOON!!! It's breaking my heart but am trying to stay strong and positive!!! Using that upbeat voice and praising a TON!!!!!

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Old 01-18-2011, 06:45 AM   #2
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It sounds like you're doing everything right, so just be patient and let things work themselves out. Vinnie and Alex were not too fond of eachother when I brought Alex home this past summer. Vinnie wasn't aggressive, just indifferent. But over the last 6 months, they have grown closer. They are still not what I'd call best friends, and they do fight sometimes, but overall they get along and work things out. I even catch them sleeping side by side sometimes.
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I don't have any advice about the ex-pens, but hopefully someone will. I'm sorry the adjustment isn't going as smoothly as you'd like, but it doesn't sound like it is going bad! Hang in there!

I'd like to throw in my own personal experience. Now, Suki (my cat) isn't another dog, but she did have to put up with Rylie coming home and she's OLD. They started out hating each other (well Suki hating Rylie... Rylie was all tail wags) and that lasted awhile...supervised interaction only.

It is now to the point where they can be left alone with each other without risk of injury to one of them. They still "fight," but I've figured out it is playing. They have the option to leave each other alone, but prefer to wrestle. Then after everything calms down (aka Rylie finally stops trying to lick off Suki's face), they'll lay down next to each other on blankets or with me on the couch. It was all a matter of Rylie not getting so excited when she saw Suki that she wouldn't leave her alone and Suki getting used to Rylie wanting to be in her face.

Sometimes I still worry they aren't getting along well enough for my tastes, but they've struck a balance and everyone seems happy. Trust me, I know it is hard, but things will most likely adjust. They just have to feel each other out.

I have hope they will continue to adjust and get along and time goes on, but I'll be happy with them not killing each other if that's the way it stays lol. I have a feeling when Rylie outgrows her super excitable puppy qualities a little bit, Suki's life will be much easier.

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That was the same situation we had when we got Nala. Now they play together and will sleep and cuddle together, but there are still times that Bandit's just like "leave me alone!" Even though Nala is almost 2 she still hasn't gotten rid of her puppy energy, and Bandit has an old man's personality It took a while but you're doing everything right
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I'd keep them separated (the pens) for a while... put a blankie in each pen for a few days then swith the blankies so they have each others scent....

Also, lavish attention on the Snickster, his feelings may be hurt and he could act out. Really overdo it here. Once he feels secure (again) and realizes you're not replacing him, he'll be better with the baby. He's the #1 brother, and Reese the #1 Baby!

I had three, so I thought adding the 4th would be no problem... ha, my bad... my third looked absolutely heartbroken... so I made her feel real special for weeks, even now... I can't say she's my favorite, I try not to have favorites... but then they are all my favorites in their own way. My fav big girl, my fav little girl, my fav Biewer, and my fav best boy! And they all know it!
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It took Barney 6 months to accept Teddy. He corrected him many times when Teddy snapped in his face. I felt the same way that you did, it was very upsetting to not see them all in love. I had a trainer come over and give me tips, all of which I think I already shared with you. I'd keep them in separate rooms. Snick will know he is there. All visitations with each other must be positive and only good things can happen to Snick. This means your tone, your body language, your reward system, EVERYTHING. Keep them in motion when they are together. I had two adults and one puppy and it was even harder to do this. I kept Barney on a leash tethered to me so I could control the interactions between the two. Daisy was easier, she just ran away from Teddy. She was much more tolerant of Teddy's bad canine puppy manners but she still was not happy. Then one day, Daisy grabbed a stuffed toy and brought it over to Teddy to play. To this day, Barney very rarely plays with Teddy or hangs out with him but that is his choice and it works for the three of them.

I would make Snick work for everything and I'd be teaching Reesie basic obedience. He should be reliably sitting for you by now and hopefully starting other training.

I've done obedience training w/ my dogs for many years and am pretty good at it so if you run into trouble PM me.
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I'd keep them separated (the pens) for a while... put a blankie in each pen for a few days then swith the blankies so they have each others scent....

Also, lavish attention on the Snickster, his feelings may be hurt and he could act out. Really overdo it here. Once he feels secure (again) and realizes you're not replacing him, he'll be better with the baby. He's the #1 brother, and Reese the #1 Baby!

I had three, so I thought adding the 4th would be no problem... ha, my bad... my third looked absolutely heartbroken... so I made her feel real special for weeks, even now... I can't say she's my favorite, I try not to have favorites... but then they are all my favorites in their own way. My fav big girl, my fav little girl, my fav Biewer, and my fav best boy! And they all know it!

Good advice -- it just takes time. It is the same if you bring a baby home
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Oh No! Sorry to hear that, but I think it will take some time! You have to remember Snick was the one and only for awhile, this is all so new to him. Give it some time, and give Snick some x-tra love and attention, Snick will come around!
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I know....I need to wait it out. It's just not fun seeing my lil Snick so upset and always running away!!!! It actually broke my heart yesterday and this morning seeing his baby eyes staring at me as if to say "Hi Mommy...you still love me right???" I'm tearing up as I type this!!!! I'll be ok....I'm so emotional, I knew I loved my baby(ies) and now I know I really do as it is affecting me so much!!!!


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Oh boy did your post bring back memories. One of the main reasons I got Beemer was so that Sadie could have companionship. She loved other dogs and I was not prepared for he reaction to getting Beemer. She wouldn't even come in the same room if he was there. It broke my heart to see her like that. I loved Beemer but felt guilty if I showed him attention. Then I would remember how we were with Sadie when we got her and I'd feel guilty that Beemer wasn't getting as much. I will honestly say now though that getting Beemer was the best thing I ever did for Sadie.

In the beginning I kept them in separate pens but next to each other. I think that's what I'd do if I was you. That way they are kind of indirectly getting used to each other but Snickers will still have his own space. It was quite a while before I left them together. Now though, they are inseparable. If Beemer yelps when I'm brushing him, Sadie comes running to check on him. It really will work out. Whatever you do, don't feel guilty for Snickers. He will come around. I'm including a picture of Sadie after we got Beemer. This was kind of her demeanor for a while. I'm also including one of them together now. I'm at work so I don't have a really good one but this will show you how close they are. Give them time - it will work out.
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Awwww Viv, it'll be o.k....I've been through it, w/Apple & Buzz, and it worked out well, but not over night...In fact, took a few months...Then we got Cha Cha, and had to start over, and she is now part of the pack...I'd put their crates side by side, so they get used to each other scent...I hadn't thought about the blanket thing the OP mentioned, but it sounds good to me...Maybe some others will mention if they've done this (switching blankets)...Rome wasn't built in a day, and Reesie & Snick won't be bff's in a day either lol...Just give it time, and keep on doing what you are doing...You know the pups sense your anxiety, so just pull up your boot straps Mama, and just enjoy them as they are, for now, and watch their relationship grow...It will!
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I also want to add my support for the advice already given and the patience needed so that everyone can be a happy family (pack). One other thing I've heard that sometimes helps is to make sure that everytime Reesie comes near that Snick gets a treat. He should think that having Resse around is like winning the lottery!! I brought home my Yorkie just about a year ago (she was a 1 year old rescue), and my schnauzer wasn't that thrilled at the time, but they get along well and to this day when we tell Charlee (yorkie) to go Potty on the pad...Georgie trots over to wait for her treat! I'm sure that we could have/should have cut that out by now, but hey...sometimes it's good to get a treat for nothing! Kind of like getting a special holiday bonus.
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Thank you all for your help...I have put their xpens together and right now they are both enjoying a bully with no problems. I also praised Snick a TON for going in his pen and not fussing and he doesn't seem to mind since Reesie cannot be in his face lol. They have a wall against each other so they can see and smell each other so we will see. I hope this is a good choice.

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It's ok, it will be fine and all work out for your baby butts. It will take time, but they will end up being best buds in the end. You are doing everything right....so...relax and try not to let it get the best of you.
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Oh darn, it missed it....Zhoie was pouting, she wanted to send you hugs & kisses Viv. XXOOXOX. She thinks you are the BESTEST mom ever.
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