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Old 04-29-2008, 11:03 AM   #46
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Old 04-29-2008, 12:53 PM   #47
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ah... the famous pit bull debate. I think we all agree that the owner is responsible for how a pit bull's personality will be (for the most part). SO! I think that it should be required to have a special lisence to own one.
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Old 04-29-2008, 12:58 PM   #48
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Oh my God. You should be able to sue for personal injury against the owner of the pit bull. That and the dog should be put down. That is disgusting. I'm personally for the illegalization of pit bulls.
I too am for the illegalization of pit bulls I agree with you 100%!
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Old 04-29-2008, 01:00 PM   #49
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Old 04-29-2008, 01:01 PM   #50
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I'm usually not one to be really eye-for-an-eye about it, but to me a pit bull isn't a pet, it is a weapon, and a deadly one at that: to dogs, people, children, etc. There is a pit bull in our neighborhood that caused me to spend a fortune on a gym and now on a fence to prevent it from ever coming near our dog. It jumps its fence and is menacing as all hell...and the family just bought another pit bull puppy. They love to menace people with it, and they get away with it because it is behind a fence.

If people walked around with cocked pistols, it would NOT go over so well...to me "rescue pit bulls" is like "rescue a gun"...no thank you.
Again I agree with you 100% and I like how you put that.
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Old 04-29-2008, 01:04 PM   #51
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Old 04-29-2008, 01:06 PM   #52
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I do agree good training can help a pit bull but it's aggressive behavior in it's back ground can show it's ugly head at any time. The 12 yr old that was killed her in Akron was from a family pet that had always been gentle.

Those that have them and trying hard to train them certainly love their pets as much or maybe more than we do but because they seem so easy going for a good part of the time, they put their guard down. I don't know what the answer is but something more does have to be done.
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I am sorry but I am going to have disagree with you that pit bulls are like walking around with a weapon. remember that a dog is how you raise it. if you raise a pitbull with love and training it will not act like that. Irresponsible ppl train these dogs to fight and abuse it in that manner and therefore become a terror. This goes from yorkies to mastiffs. for example if a yorkie displays signs of attacking ppl it can hurt someone maybe not to the degree as a pitbull but it can attack someone regardless. It all goes into training. and that is why pitbulls have such a bad name. JMO

And to the OP i am so sorry for your friends loss. Plz contact the ASPCA for help since the PO will transfer it to them and it may take some time as it goes thru the system. ASPCA is NYC's animal police.

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I have heard sooooo many stories of how pit bulls are raised "right" and still going and attacking a child or an adult or even another animal! These animals were breed for meaness ect. and at any time they can snap and do snap and at least other dogs you have the chance to unlock there jaws from you or your child and that is not going to happen with a pit bull!
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ah... the famous pit bull debate. I think we all agree that the owner is responsible for how a pit bull's personality will be (for the most part). SO! I think that it should be required to have a special lisence to own one.
I dont agree that the owner is responsible for how a pit bulls personality will be I think all pit bulls have it in them to be killers, and attackers and have the ability to snap at ANY moment!
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I am very sorry for your friends loss. I hope she will recover well from her injuries. How truly sad.
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I am so sorry about Dior, I hope you find the pitbull's owner. They should have had him on a leash. Where were you exactly? In Manhattan?
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Slades Mommy, I applaud you for taking the responsibility of dog ownership seriously.

I have never sued anyone but if this happened to me I would in a minute. To just pay your bills is not enough, people have to know that this cannot happen and stop breeding the dangerous breeds. We had a little girl 12yrs killed by a pit bull close to where I live......someone said to me that had another pit bull " A yorkie would kill just as easily as mine if it were not socialized" Sure These jaws lock and it is close to impossible to get them loose. I am not talking about people like Slades Mommy who do the responsible thing but others who rather than purchase a security system purchase a dog listed on the dangerous list by insurance companies because they think it is macho!!

I agree with you completely. A yorkie bite and a pitt bite are too totally different things. I have had this same argument with people several times. If they are the same then a garden lizard and and alligator have the same bite.
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I dont agree that the owner is responsible for how a pit bulls personality will be I think all pit bulls have it in them to be killers, and attackers and have the ability to snap at ANY moment!


I agree, they are killers! If they weren't then why isn't there an interest to try and take Labs or say.. Australian Shepards and train them for the "fighting ring"..because they aren't natural born killers like Pit Bulls are...I am for doing away with this breed altogether..theres been too many generations of these trained to kill and I know that brings up the "enviroment verses genetic" reasoning...I think its both...its just a dangerous breed..
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Old 04-29-2008, 06:35 PM   #59
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I am so sorry for your friends loss.
Pitbull had to be leashed thats the law in NY. It sad to see that wrong people have this breed. I think pitbulls are good dogs but the wrong influence from the owner create different behavior in a dog. On the top of that only responsible owner should own this breed but it is sad to see most of the times it is not the case.
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Yes , the police were called, we are still waiting for the police report.
The other dog is locked up. What happens if the owner cannot be found?
What happens to the pitbull? Do we have any legal rights in this matter?
Thank you everyone for your fast and caring reponses. I really appreciate it.
I'm not familiar with laws in NY but was a paralegal years ago in NJ. As far as I remember unfortunately animals are treated as things. Your friend is entitled to the price of her Yorkie. If there had been any vet bills she would then be able to sue for the price of her Yorkie as well as any incurred vet bills. It's really a shame that a person is not able to sue for emotional distress, pain and suffering for her animal etc. The laws need to be changed and the only way to do that is to write congress.

In so far as the pitbull a lot will depend on whether the owner is found. If the owner if found then really a lot will then depend on whether he has ever attacked before etc. In NJ when an attack occurs animal control by law is called and notified. Who is the person that was walking the dog? Are you certain that she or he is not the owner and just b.s. ing to cover their own butt? There is really no way of knowing this for sure but I think she can be held liable as well since she was the one in control of the dog at the time of the attack. It may be worth having a free consult with a good attorney. You can also sue for your injuries and you because you are a person and not an animal are entitled to pain, suffering, emotional distress from YOUR INJURY not emotional distress in seeing your dog injured. You have to make sure that you say you were tramatized from the bite you sustained. If you say you were tramitized by watching your Yorkie being attacked all you will get is it's unfortunate but... blah blah blah.

I'm really sorry for your friend and I wish her all the best.

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