8 days after tie.. Need advice, please.

[Baha Angel]

Earlier this month I had to leave home for a week due to some personal circumstances and I left my 3 year old Yorkie, Holly, home with my fiancé and our 1 year old baby boy, Shifu. Holly has very light spotting when she is on heat, so it is not his fault that he didn't notice it was her time. Well, they tied. I asked him a million times if he was sure, and he tells me yes, once, on the 17th of April. They are both very healthy and active dogs, free from genetic disorders and fully vaccinated for everything possible.

If someone experienced can please give me any advice on what I need to start doing right now, I would really appreciate it as this has been a very sad few days for me. I have read every article I can find on the internet, but I know I cannot read enough to prepare for the actual birth and aftercare of puppies. I would like to be as prepared as I possibly can. Also, is it common for dogs to take after only one tie?

Thank you.

Short version: 3 year old, 6 lb yorkie, tied with 4 lb, 8 days ago. I need advice on nutrition for her, as well as what to prepare for when whelping comes.

[gemy]

Originally Posted by Baha Angel

Earlier this month I had to leave home for a week due to some personal circumstances and I left my 3 year old Yorkie, Holly, home with my fiancé and our 1 year old baby boy, Shifu. Holly has very light spotting when she is on heat, so it is not his fault that he didn't notice it was her time. Well, they tied. I asked him a million times if he was sure, and he tells me yes, once, on the 17th of April. They are both very healthy and active dogs, free from genetic disorders and fully vaccinated for everything possible.

If someone experienced can please give me any advice on what I need to start doing right now, I would really appreciate it as this has been a very sad few days for me. I have read every article I can find on the internet, but I know I cannot read enough to prepare for the actual birth and aftercare of puppies. I would like to be as prepared as I possibly can. Also, is it common for dogs to take after only one tie?

Thank you.


To answer the questions bolded; absolutely find an experienced breeder to help you with the whelp, and be prepared to pay for this help. If not then best to find a vet to "help" you with the whelp. Start putting money away now, for possible complications - such as an emergency C section, plus of course all the vet visits you will need to do with Mom and Pups.

And yes healthy dogs certainly can re-produce after one tie.

Do a search here, to find other very similar threads to yours and the "free" advice given with links to various websites et al.

Of course why not get an Emergency C section? Don;t understand if you didn't want to breed why your female is unspayed at 3yrs old?

Also bring in your female to be examined by a vet right now. You want his opinion and advice if she "can" safely birth - given her pelvic structure and overall health condition.

I certainly hope that your female has had the appropriate pre breeding tests done, and you better find out just how healthy your male is as well.

You are if you go ahead with allowing this dog to whelp responsible for the health of all puppies you bring into this world. That means as best you can tell they are free from genetic defects, such as PRA, LP, HD, ED, LS, Congenital Cataracts, Leggs Perthes, Hyperuricosuria, CT, and the list goes on.



Short version: 3 year old, 6 lb yorkie, tied with 4 lb, 8 days ago. I need advice on nutrition for her, as well as what to prepare for when whelping comes.

See reply above.

[carmen in nj]

the first step is to treat her like she was pregnant , a good quality puppy kibble is the best you can do for her right now if you are going to see this pregnancy to the end.
right now she does not need any more than that since is VERY early. at about 32 days you can take her to the vet and have him or her palpate her abdomen to verify that indeed she is pregnant, my vet is the best at doing that she is so good she had even told me how many babies to expect..start looking in your area to see if you can find a mentor to help you thru the whelping. and Keep reading and reading and asking questions.
best of luck, remember the life of your girl is in your hands now, the more you know and the more you learn the easier is going to be for both of you at whelping time..
also another solution could be an emergency spay.
hugs,
Carmen

[jencar98]

It's not too late to have her spayed....if this truly is an accident and you didn't intend for her to ever have puppies?

[gemy]

Sorry correction to my post I said emergency C section, I meant a spay right now.

[Lorraine]

I would assume i fyou have two intact adult yorkies, a male and a female, in your home your intention was to breed them. Now the deed is likely done and you will have to decide what to do now. You will need whelping help, possible high vet bills if a csection is required, as you could lose her and/or puppies or you could opt to forget the whole thing and have her spayed immediately. What is the best decision for your dogs who you say are your precious pets?

[Yorkiemom1]

Have your female spayed now.....this is easily done and is not a problem....if this was an accident and you do not have a good, at the very LEAST a 7 generation pedigree, on both dogs....you need to have that female spayed. Any babies born are YOUR responsibility, for the LIFE of those babies, regardless of where they are sold or sent, and that includes all illnesses, all genetic defects, etc., because THAT is what responsible breeders do. You have no experience in breeding, you do not have a minimal working knowledge of the lines in a dogs pedigree, what lines you can safely cross and which ones may have a recessive gene that can produce a genetic defect.....your best bet is to have your female spayed NOW. I am sorry but this breeding game is a crap shoot on a good day....and if you can not afford to have a spay done now, you certainly will not be able to pay for a c-section if the female gets into trouble whelping....and you will loose the entire shooting match.

[Lorraine]

Originally Posted by Yorkiemom1

Have your female spayed now.....this is easily done and is not a problem....if this was an accident and you do not have a good, at the very LEAST a 7 generation pedigree, on both dogs....you need to have that female spayed. Any babies born are YOUR responsibility, for the LIFE of those babies, regardless of where they are sold or sent, and that includes all illnesses, all genetic defects, etc., because THAT is what responsible breeders do. You have no experience in breeding, you do not have a minimal working knowledge of the lines in a dogs pedigree, what lines you can safely cross and which ones may have a recessive gene that can produce a genetic defect.....your best bet is to have your female spayed NOW. I am sorry but this breeding game is a crap shoot on a good day....and if you can not afford to have a spay done now, you certainly will not be able to pay for a c-section if the female gets into trouble whelping....and you will loose the entire shooting match.

Absolutely right, fabulous advice.

[chachi]

Also have you considered that for whatever reason your female cant feed the puppies or you have a tiny one that needs supplimenting you will need to take off work or not really be able to do anything for a long time, Im pretty certain they have to be feed every 2 or 3 hours. Its really alot of commitment required of you when you breed

[Lorraine]

Originally Posted by chachi

Also have you considered that for whatever reason your female cant feed the puppies or you have a tiny one that needs supplimenting you will need to take off work or not really be able to do anything for a long time, Im pretty certain they have to be feed every 2 or 3 hours. Its really alot of commitment required of you when you breed

Been there done that, every 90 minutes around the clock 24/7 until it either doesnt make it which happens more often than not or it catches up and survives. You can be doing this for weeks. If for some reason mom doesnt make it you will be raising them for 3-4 weeks including wiping their bums to stimulate them to potty. Then you can try getting thru the weaning process of them eating from a dish.

[Yorkiemom1]

Originally Posted by Lorraine

Been there done that, every 90 minutes around the clock 24/7 until it either doesnt make it which happens more often than not or it catches up and survives. You can be doing this for weeks. If for some reason mom doesnt make it you will be raising them for 3-4 weeks including wiping their bums to stimulate them to potty. Then you can try getting thru the weaning process of them eating from a dish.

Oh, and by the way, that is TUBE FEEDING, because the tiny little babies do not have the strength to suckle, so no feeding from a baby bottle...are you proficient in TUBE FEEDING a 1-2oz baby, every 90 minutes, around the clock, 7 days a week, for however long it takes for that baby to suck on a baby bottle, at which time you can advance to every 2-3 hours, around the clock, for however long......YABADABADOOOOOOOO! YOU GET TO SLEEP 30 MINUTES EVERY 3 HOURS!!!!

[LunasMomma]

May I ask why neither of your dogs are fixed? The health benefits alone are good enough reason to do it, it cuts down the chance of many forms of cancer for them. If this were my female, she'd be going in for an emergency spay, and the boy would be getting fixed ASAP.

Good luck.

[Baha Angel]

I'll just explain the circumstances leading up to this so I don't have the calvary on my behind... I live on an island in the Bahamas, where there are only two vets. One has a bad reputation, and killed my fiancés 15 pound s**t-Tzu during a routine Spay a few years ago. The other is only on the island for a week a month and told me that they do not have the equipment or proper anesthetic to spay a dog her size. He point blank told me that it is not safe during the appointment I made for her last year around this time.

I am not employed, so work is not a concern for me, and I will have to order everything online, such as hemostats, milk, incase I have to feed the babies incase of an emergency, and all the necessities because we do not have a proper grocery store, such as "Walmart", here. My aunt used to be on call for pet emergencies and has delivered quite a few litters in her time, I have contacted her.

I wanted advice on what I should be feeding and doing to care for my baby girl at this time to make sure she's as healthy as can be.

Thank you for the advice so far.

[Nancy1999]

Originally Posted by Baha Angel

I'll just explain the circumstances leading up to this so I don't have the calvary on my behind... I live on an island in the Bahamas, where there are only two vets. One has a bad reputation, and killed my fiancés 15 pound s**t-Tzu during a routine Spay a few years ago. The other is only on the island for a week a month and told me that they do not have the equipment or proper anesthetic to spay a dog her size. He point blank told me that it is not safe during the appointment I made for her last year around this time.I am not employed, so work is not a concern for me, and I will have to order everything online, such as hemostats, milk, incase I have to feed the babies incase of an emergency, and all the necessities because we do not have a proper grocery store, such as "Walmart", here. My aunt used to be on call for pet emergencies and has delivered quite a few litters in her time, I have contacted her.

I wanted advice on what I should be feeding and doing to care for my baby girl at this time to make sure she's as healthy as can be.

Thank you for the advice so far.

OMG, what if your baby needs an emergency CC, what will you do? Just let her die? Cut her open without any anesthesia? Seriously, your vet told you that and you allowed your girl around a male dog? Do you understand that you need way more information than what someone can write in a couple of threads? I'm sorry to be so harsh, but I've been around YT for a long time and I'm familiar with all that can go wrong. Domesticated dogs are not wild animals, and often need human intervention for delivering their pups. There are so many dangerous signs to look out for and a breeder should know when to rush the dog to the vet. You won't even have a vet available. You should talk to your local vet and see if he has the proper equipment to do an emergency spay, if not, you should fly elsewhere to take care of the situation. Also, I suggest you ask your aunt what to buy, since you feel like she knows what she is doing.

[gemy]

Originally Posted by Baha Angel

I'll just explain the circumstances leading up to this so I don't have the calvary on my behind... I live on an island in the Bahamas, where there are only two vets. One has a bad reputation, and killed my fiancés 15 pound s**t-Tzu during a routine Spay a few years ago. The other is only on the island for a week a month and told me that they do not have the equipment or proper anesthetic to spay a dog her size. He point blank told me that it is not safe during the appointment I made for her last year around this time.

I am not employed, so work is not a concern for me, and I will have to order everything online, such as hemostats, milk, incase I have to feed the babies incase of an emergency, and all the necessities because we do not have a proper grocery store, such as "Walmart", here. My aunt used to be on call for pet emergencies and has delivered quite a few litters in her time, I have contacted her.

I wanted advice on what I should be feeding and doing to care for my baby girl at this time to make sure she's as healthy as can be.

Thank you for the advice so far.

It seems like your situation is almost untenable. I will re-iterate the safest thing for you and your gal, is to get her to a larger island with proper facilities to do a spay on her. You have the time to plan this, to research. Surely Nassau isn't too far away?

The risks to your bitch to whelp without any emergency back up vet care, surely is a high one to take.

The "cavalry" is here to try and give you the best advice we can. I won't speak for others, just for myself; what I believe given your circumstances, is to do all in your power to save the life of your gal. That means to spay her, right now, to find the way to do this.

Please consider seriously what risk you are taking with your gal's life.