Looking for good/show quaility Male yorkie

[tegamom1]

Originally Posted by Mardelin

I think it's the one on the right?

Hmmmmmmm....Could it be?

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by tegamom1

Hmmmmmmm....Could it be?

Possibly, does it matter? Really can't tell anymore

[cutiepieyorkies]

any way off to do some house work it is my zoe's b-day today and her being bred she is not to happy fat and wobbly i do believe everyone should go to a show or too wheather you are going to show or not there is a wealth or information there and some really great people

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by cutiepieyorkies

I Believe To Each His Own With Breeding But I Also Believe That It Is To Better To Bred And Keep It As Close To The Standard As Possible There Is Alot Of Health Problems In The Yorkies Today Because Of Byb Wanting To Make A Fast Buck Alot Of Ckc People That Do Not Want To Keep Up With Records And So Some Are Not In To Good Breeding Habits Some Sell And Do Not Have There Puppies Checked For Legs And Liver What Is The Cost Of Testing Compaired To The Price You May Be Gettening I Feel If You Are Going To Bred Protect The Yorkie Some Sell With Open Fountals And Other Issues And Than We Have Alot Of Problem Yorkies And It Is Sad I Know Some Retired Show People That Still Bred The Yorkies But They Have Years Of Experince I Just Feel For The Little Two Pounders That Have Health Issues And People Spend Lots On Vet Bills Just To Loose Them To Me The Standard Is Up To 7 Pounds And The 4 To 6 Is My Favorite I Have Had Less Health Problems I Bought A Tiny Last Year He Was 1.14 Ounces At Eight Months Old He Had Sever Roach Back Open Fountails And Many Other Problems I Sold Him Back To The Breeder It Was Not
A Thing I Would Ever Even Consider To Bred To And He Cost Me 3800.00 Dollars Over Two Months Just To Get Him Healthy
It Was A Very Big Loss For Me But A Very Valueable Lesson Also

So sorry you went through this, let alone you falling in love with him. May have been a valuable lesson, but you shouldn't have had to go through it.

Mary

[Saleswman]

That this statement was even made..???? I have never felt that Lorraine ever has been anything but upfront and informational when she posts......of course, I like a lot of us.....are sponges......and do not appear to know everything.

I value all the advice I have gotten here....advice from Kim and Pat, and Mary and Lorraine., Desi....are any of them EVER condescending??? Nope....but everything is what you want to read into it.....period....

I dont know any of you personally....would not know you on the street or what kind of "reputation" you have in the Yorkie World....and quite frankly, I don't want to know.or do I care......I know all of you as smart, caring,professional and dedicated Yorkie owners, breeders...etc.....

This thread is getting pretty hurtful and somewhat uncomfortable.....my thoughts are....be careful, for what you say...as once it is written...it is very hard to erase.....

Originally Posted by txshopper73

It really is a shame that you were burned. People that won't stand behind what they are breeding should NOT be breeding at all.

Lorraine, with all due respect, why do you feel the need to talk down to people? The attitude that you've shown here today is the reason why a lot of show exhibitors have the reputation that they do!!

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by tegamom1

This just amazes me! It does seem when show breeder/exhibitors offer advise or help to those that ask for "show" help, one thing just leads to another and then suddenly, breeders who do not apparently know very much about it pounce on these dedicated.

First off, if you can find where I gave bad advice to the OP, please point it out. Unlike some people I've run accross, I generally keep my mouth shut when I don't know what I'm talking about. And for the record--and I can only speak for myself as a general statement--do not ever assume you or anyone else has any clue as to what I "do not apparently know very much about." I can assure you, it didn't take long at all before I figured out it wasn't the best idea to make my breeding practice an open book on an online forum--another reason why I took down my website. I have seen those that have be taken through the mud, be in the middle of controversy, scandal, stalked, sued, you name it. Seems like the only think it would accomplish by letting it be known is it would provide people with something to analyze and criticize and to be honest, I have no desire for that kind of crap in my life, thanks just the same. Just because I don't actively show, don't for a second assume I've never set foot at a show or in a ring for that matter or that I don't know and work with accomplished, seasoned show breeders.

Originally Posted by tegamom1

highly respected, ethical, educated, show breeders acting as if they were offended. When they advise being careful who you buy from and give suggestions on what to look for and what to avoid and you get offended....well, that certainly tells me something.

I don't believe anyone here challenged these two show breeders as far as their breeding/showing ethics, experience, advice and knowledge are concerned.

Originally Posted by tegamom1

There are a lot of "show breeder" that some of you like to so proudly brag about having there lines somewhere back in your pedigrees that wouldn't come on this forum if you paid them!

And from the drama and confusion that has taken place here, I can see why.

Originally Posted by tegamom1

Fortunately, YT is blessed with having a few kind, caring people on here to help when asked.

I agree. On many occasions I have enjoyed and learned from posts made by these show breeders and others. Does that mean I have to agree with EVERYTHING they say? No, it doesn't.
This all started because someone made a general statement about something that had NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS THREAD OR ANYONE HERE and I agreed. I don't know how many times I have to say that before it sinks in.
That attitude of superiority is one that I have run across and I believe it is a load of crap....it has nothing to do with the posters here necessarily.

[Lorraine]

Originally Posted by Mardelin

Typical Canadian. Took awhile getting use to it...but, after awhile being around the likes of other Canadian exhibitors.....I finally got it.

Mary

notice I didn't say 'eh' even once? LOL I didn't realize we all kind of have a dry sense of humour. Now Iknow why I get such strange looks from my American friends. LOL

[tegamom1]

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

First off, if you can find where I gave bad advice to the OP, please point it out. Unlike some people I've run accross, I generally keep my mouth shut when I don't know what I'm talking about. And for the record--and I can only speak for myself as a general statement--do not ever assume you or anyone else has any clue as to what I "do not apparently know very much about." I can assure you, it didn't take long at all before I figured out it wasn't the best idea to make my breeding practice an open book on an online forum--another reason why I took down my website. I have seen those that have be taken through the mud, be in the middle of controversy, scandal, stalked, sued, you name it. Seems like the only think it would accomplish by letting it be known is it would provide people with something to analyze and criticize and to be honest, I have no desire for that kind of crap in my life, thanks just the same. Just because I don't actively show, don't for a second assume I've never set foot at a show or in a ring for that matter or that I don't know and work with accomplished, seasoned show breeders.



I don't believe anyone here challenged these two show breeders as far as their breeding/showing ethics, experience, advice and knowledge are concerned.



And from the drama and confusion that has taken place here, I can see why.



I agree. On many occasions I have enjoyed and learned from posts made by these show breeders and others. Does that mean I have to agree with EVERYTHING they say? No, it doesn't.
This all started because someone made a general statement about something that had NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS THREAD OR ANYONE HERE and I agreed. I don't know how many times I have to say that before it sinks in.
That attitude of superiority is one that I have run across and I believe it is a load of crap....it has nothing to do with the posters here necessarily.

I don't recall mentioning you at all. I was speaking in general, but, if you feel the shoe fits...

[browniesmom622]

i cant believe noone can be adults and just answer there (op) questions

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by Lorraine

notice I didn't say 'eh' even once? LOL I didn't realize we all kind of have a dry sense of humour. Now Iknow why I get such strange looks from my American friends. LOL

Yes, I did notice. But, being around the other Lorraine and a few other Canadians has really given me a feel for Canadian humour.

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by browniesmom622

i cant believe noone can be adults and just answer there (op) questions

Impossible....talking to a bunch of women here....especially women with the same passion.
Didn't you know that to be a yorkie lover/breeder/exhibitor you had to have a compulsive obsessive personality. At least that's what I have been told, that and be a perfectionist.

[Saleswman]

Compulsive?? No...you are kidding.....only because I am STILL looking for the PERFECT FOR ME......yorkie.....neurotic...maybe.....yep.....pr obably......ask Becki.....LOL

Originally Posted by Mardelin

Impossible....talking to a bunch of women here....especially women with the same passion.
Didn't you know that to be a yorkie lover/breeder/exhibitor you had to have a compulsive obsessive personality. At least that's what I have been told, that and be a perfectionist.

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by Saleswman

Compulsive?? No...you are kidding.....only because I am STILL looking for the PERFECT FOR ME......yorkie.....neurotic...maybe.....yep.....pr obably......ask Becki.....LOL

I don't have to ask Becki, I've read your posts.

[Saleswman]

And believe it or not.....I do like the "dry humor"......


That was supposted to be funny right???LOL

Originally Posted by Mardelin

I don't have to ask Becki, I've read your posts.

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by tegamom1

I don't recall mentioning you at all. I was speaking in general, but, if you feel the shoe fits...

I was just speaking in general too...believe I mentioned that. Since there were only two non-show breeders that gave their input and I was one of them....hmmm....