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Old 08-31-2007, 08:44 AM   #16
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Oil can have the opposite effect on the coat if it is too heavy or used too much...clogs the hair follicle and it starts to flake..then some people have a hard time getting all the oil out and the dry coat is too greasy, so they over shampoo, too much as strip all the natural oil out..
lol well my if a little is good a lot is better theroy go's right out the window ..every time i do a new oil i end up having to do a vinagar rinse i think im over doing it
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What about VIRGIN COCONUT OIL. Does somebody use it?
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Old 05-02-2012, 01:03 PM   #18
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I just left a long rave review for Emu oil. I'll never go without it!
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Old 05-03-2012, 05:48 AM   #19
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I just want to point out, for people's awareness, how emu oil is made...some people don't realize it's actually from the Emu itself:

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Emus mature at a relatively slow rate compared to other birds; they are rarely slaughtered before the second year of life. The technique for slaughtering emus is similar to the methods used for smaller fowl such as chickens and turkeys. Trucks carry the birds to slaughterhouses, where machines break the emus' necks. The ASPCA notes that rough handling under these circumstances can cause the animals to suffer from injuries or pre-slaughter death."
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Just heard back from the Emu oil company. Here is their reply. Sounds humane.

" When the birds are processed for the meat they are knocked out with a stun gun.* They are hung from tall racks and their juggler vein is cut.* Their hearts are still beating so the blood is naturally pumped from the bird.* It is totally painless for the bird.* This is the same way Kosher Butchering is done.
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We are actually growing the birds for the meat, the oil is a by product of the bird.* All parts of the bird are used.* The feathers, the fat, the meat, the hide."

I don't know about other companies but this brand is OK by my standards. This is "Blue Ridge" brand.
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I just want to point out, for people's awareness, how emu oil is made...some people don't realize it's actually from the Emu itself:

"Slaughter
Emus mature at a relatively slow rate compared to other birds; they are rarely slaughtered before the second year of life. The technique for slaughtering emus is similar to the methods used for smaller fowl such as chickens and turkeys. Trucks carry the birds to slaughterhouses, where machines break the emus' necks. The ASPCA notes that rough handling under these circumstances can cause the animals to suffer from injuries or pre-slaughter death."
This is no different than any major meat butchering plant. I just watched Food Inc. and was just sick. I have stoped buying some brands and have a issue eatting pork at all.

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Just heard back from the Emu oil company. Here is their reply. Sounds humane.

" When the birds are processed for the meat they are knocked out with a stun gun.* They are hung from tall racks and their juggler vein is cut.* Their hearts are still beating so the blood is naturally pumped from the bird.* It is totally painless for the bird.* This is the same way Kosher Butchering is done.
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We are actually growing the birds for the meat, the oil is a by product of the bird.* All parts of the bird are used.* The feathers, the fat, the meat, the hide."

I don't know about other companies but this brand is OK by my standards. This is "Blue Ridge" brand.

My first reaction was but this is not any different if you eat meat that is processed by a large company. In fact it maybe a little better
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I'm 100% vegetarian since 1989 and I ate vegan for 9 years of that stretch. I'm definitely sensitive and concerned about the treatment of animals. If coconut oil was effective, I'd use it, but it doesn't help my little Yorkie. If it works for your pup - that's awesome!
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I'm 100% vegetarian since 1989 and I ate vegan for 9 years of that stretch. I'm definitely sensitive and concerned about the treatment of animals. If coconut oil was effective, I'd use it, but it doesn't help my little Yorkie. If it works for your pup - that's awesome!
I agree.. I may not have said it very well. Like I told my dd, how can you have leather seats in you car but act all moral because you don't eat meat. It is such a hard questions for me. Even Jello is an animal product!
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I'm 100% vegetarian since 1989 and I ate vegan for 9 years of that stretch. I'm definitely sensitive and concerned about the treatment of animals. If coconut oil was effective, I'd use it, but it doesn't help my little Yorkie. If it works for your pup - that's awesome!
Totally agree . We all have to do what works and what feels right. I too am a vegetarian (or, more accurately, a pescatarian)...for the last 20 years. However, my hubby eats meat and I'll even cook it for him. Hubby has lots of awareness to animal issues...so he does like free range, cage free etc...but he still likes to eat meat. I never try to push my own stuff onto others...bc I just don't feel that way about it. I do like sharing awareness, but I def don't like the moral highground that some vegetarians/vegans take...it's so alienating and holier than thou.

Lil Sis - Food Inc was great, I loved it! Forks Over Knives is another good one...from a different angle, but kind of similar too.
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Yep thats why I dont use emu oil. I think we can get by in life without purchasing emu oil and add to the unnecessary suffering of emus. I used to use minksheen but stopped when I found out minks are killed to make it. Im not a vegetarian and eat meat but I think that is different than purchasing a product for your dogs hair. There are plenty of other products that work that dont involve the slaughtering of animals JMO
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Totally agree . We all have to do what works and what feels right. I too am a vegetarian (or, more accurately, a pescatarian)...for the last 20 years. However, my hubby eats meat and I'll even cook it for him. Hubby has lots of awareness to animal issues...so he does like free range, cage free etc...but he still likes to eat meat. I never try to push my own stuff onto others...bc I just don't feel that way about it. I do like sharing awareness, but I def don't like the moral highground that some vegetarians/vegans take...it's so alienating and holier than thou.

Lil Sis - Food Inc was great, I loved it! Forks Over Knives is another good one...from a different angle, but kind of similar too.

good answer...
I have heard about Forks over Knives. I am really wrestling with this issue. I still eat meat, I like meat but often my mind starts to "think about" it and I am done. I don't have a problem with fish or even bird but pork (they wag their tails) really bothers me. I guess I have to fight my own demons

As far as emu oil. I agree to kill an animal to treat another animal is a bit much, but the emus are killed for their meat, the oil is a byproduct. What I was saying if you eat meat how is the oil different? That is just me.. and I don't know the answer for anyone, not even me at times If there is a non animal product that works that MAY be the better choice.
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For me it is more why does a emu need to be eaten anyway or their oil used. The elite chinese pay alot of money for tiger parts because its supposed to be medicinal and I think we can all see thats wrong because there are other medicinal things they can use that dont revolve around killing a tiger. That is how I view the mink oil and the emu oil we really dont need it for survival it is a luxury item
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For me it is more why does a emu need to be eaten anyway or their oil used. The elite chinese pay alot of money for tiger parts because its supposed to be medicinal and I think we can all see thats wrong because there are other medicinal things they can use that dont revolve around killing a tiger. That is how I view the mink oil and the emu oil we really dont need it for survival it is a luxury item
Just to be the devil's advocate (I eat meat... so don't feel like I'm attacking you)... We don't need meat to survive, so is it a luxury item?
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Just to be the devil's advocate (I eat meat... so don't feel like I'm attacking you)... We don't need meat to survive, so is it a luxury item?
I dont think so meat has been a staple in human diet since the beginning of mankind. These are just my standards Im not judging anyone that buys emu oil or mink oil IAm just saying why I dont even though I have in the past. I do have concerns for live stock in factory farms too so I know Im a little of a hypocrite.
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well.. imo ... at least we are thinking about it and maybe making small changes. The small changes will add up to a lot.
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