Tips for dog shows

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by Elle

If harnessed in properly the dogs shouldn't be able to jump out of a good dog seat. Just as in babes in baby seats, if used properly, they keep them pretty safe. I've been in a car accident with my dogs in a crate......even harnessed in tightly they were jostled around and one had to be taken to ER because of injuries caused by bein jostled around.

But, just because one chooses to use a car seat over a crate doesn't make them undeducated......at least the dog isn't lose in the car......

That's cute Mary LOL. undeducated
I said uneducated pet homes as an example of people that transport dogs without much understanding of safety. I'm not back peddling on it. IMO a show home should be well educated on transportation. I can't imagine a toy, especially a puppy being in a car seat on a freeway. JMHO.[/QUOTE]

I was stopped by a Cal Highway Patrol Officer, my dog was in the car seat. His words were he highly recommended them over crates.

Works for me and my pups are safe. They've learned to travel both ways. As a matter of fact I have a couple that vomit while traveling. Switching them to a car seat stopped the vomiting......

There are more show/pet owners that transport their dogs via a car seat.

And as I said, it's better than allowing them loose in the car.

[gemy]

Originally Posted by Mardelin

That's cute Mary LOL. undeducated
I said uneducated pet homes as an example of people that transport dogs without much understanding of safety. I'm not back peddling on it. IMO a show home should be well educated on transportation. I can't imagine a toy, especially a puppy being in a car seat on a freeway. JMHO.

I was stopped by a Cal Highway Patrol Officer, my dog was in the car seat. His words were he highly recommended them over crates.

Works for me and my pups are safe. They've learned to travel both ways. As a matter of fact I have a couple that vomit while traveling. Switching them to a car seat stopped the vomiting......

There are more show/pet owners that transport their dogs via a car seat.

And as I said, it's better than allowing them loose in the car.[/QUOTE]

Mary do you know of any studies that compare crates versus car seat? If car seat has been proven to be safer then I can switch over.

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by gemy

Yes .. this is true .. which is why I lock the crates when I can't be around. I think there is a balance point we each have, if I felt so afaird that given reasonable cautions, locking, trusted friends looking out, even the mere act of showing would entail a high risk to my dogs or myself, then I would simply stop showing.

Gail,

No matter what we do...it's a crazy world out there. We can operate and travel with friends.....keep on eye on each other....even the best laid plans, all it takes is a second...

Hey! I've been in the ring and my dog has slipped out of it's neck piece....and there I was running like fool after it.....

[gemy]

Originally Posted by Mardelin

Gail,

No matter what we do...it's a crazy world out there. We can operate and travel with friends.....keep on eye on each other....even the best laid plans, all it takes is a second...

Hey! I've been in the ring and my dog has slipped out of it's neck piece....and there I was running like fool after it.....

LOL LOl.. I can just see that picture. I too have had acutally the slip collar opened up and I was left with a lead in my hand and my 1 yr old blackie running to hubby at the show ring side... Needless to say we didn't finish in the "money" that day....LMAO

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by gemy

I was stopped by a Cal Highway Patrol Officer, my dog was in the car seat. His words were he highly recommended them over crates.

Works for me and my pups are safe. They've learned to travel both ways. As a matter of fact I have a couple that vomit while traveling. Switching them to a car seat stopped the vomiting......

There are more show/pet owners that transport their dogs via a car seat.

And as I said, it's better than allowing them loose in the car.

Mary do you know of any studies that compare crates versus car seat? If car seat has been proven to be safer then I can switch over.[/QUOTE]

Gail,

I don't really know if there are any studies...I can only go on what the officer went on.

I know that some are adamantly against them. I find them very convenient when traveling in town....My dogs can look out and can lay and sleep, they are cushioned and hooked in....

If one is traveling to dog shows and you are transporting more than one dog in a van and equipment....crates stack better......just have to make sure they get plenty of air......I do prefer crates during that time...although, I hate veri-kennels.....

[topknot]

I will have to get the photo of my daughter's yorkie in a real car seat. Yep - sitting on her bum with the fasterner between her legs like a real baby. She really thinks she is a baby. Shhhh.. do not tell her. She also goes backpacking, hiking, and camping on the Appalacian trail and other trails in area. She has her own backpack and duffle bag she totes on her back up the trails and loves it. At night she goes down in the sleeping bag and goes to sleep. So funny. They were gone for four days a few weeks ago and she made it all the way. She loved it. She has also learned to ride in my daughter's backback on her back and then peeks up over her shoulder. I told you .. she really thinks she is human.

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by topknot

I will have to get the photo of my daughter's yorkie in a real car seat. Yep - sitting on her bum with the fasterner between her legs like a real baby. She really thinks she is a baby. Shhhh.. do not tell her. She also goes backpacking, hiking, and camping on the Appalacian trail and other trails in area. She has her own backpack and duffle bag she totes on her back up the trails and loves it. At night she goes down in the sleeping bag and goes to sleep. So funny. They were gone for four days a few weeks ago and she made it all the way. She loved it. She has also learned to ride in my daughter's backback on her back and then peeks up over her shoulder. I told you .. she really thinks she is human.

Too cute. I'd love to see the pics.....

[gemy]

Originally Posted by Mardelin

Mary do you know of any studies that compare crates versus car seat? If car seat has been proven to be safer then I can switch over.

Gail,

I don't really know if there are any studies...I can only go on what the officer went on.

I know that some are adamantly against them. I find them very convenient when traveling in town....My dogs can look out and can lay and sleep, they are cushioned and hooked in....

If one is traveling to dog shows and you are transporting more than one dog in a van and equipment....crates stack better......just have to make sure they get plenty of air......I do prefer crates during that time...although, I hate veri-kennels.....[/QUOTE]

Ok I'll do some research on that. I have a couple of crates for Razz. Right now we don't need to stack, in fact we can't with our setup stack two crates on top of one another. We kind of do a tee with two 40" crates in car. Razz has a wire crate he rides in car with - like the wire crates I have for the two big ones. He is cinched in in his wire crate between our seats. We are going to purchase a unit that sits on the back of our trunk .. quite simply we need that as the roof rack is not good. Can't get too much in it, and the wind drag is awfull. Camping n stuff we have so much to take with us.

[gemy]

Originally Posted by topknot

I will have to get the photo of my daughter's yorkie in a real car seat. Yep - sitting on her bum with the fasterner between her legs like a real baby. She really thinks she is a baby. Shhhh.. do not tell her. She also goes backpacking, hiking, and camping on the Appalacian trail and other trails in area. She has her own backpack and duffle bag she totes on her back up the trails and loves it. At night she goes down in the sleeping bag and goes to sleep. So funny. They were gone for four days a few weeks ago and she made it all the way. She loved it. She has also learned to ride in my daughter's backback on her back and then peeks up over her shoulder. I told you .. she really thinks she is human.

She has her own back pack? Wow. Can she carry her own water? We went hiking last summer with our dogs on vacation, but I carried Razz's water I thought would be too heavy for him to carry. At what age is it safe to add weight to their back? and Where do you find the mini backpacks?

This is so exciting. We go hiking alot. and love it. If Razz can carry his food and water it would be great!

[Mardelin]

Right now it's pretty easy, as I don't have any travel companions. But, it Texas I always traveled with my mentor. We take two dogs....but, then there is the equipment for the show site and equipment for the hotel room. And of course our luggage, which consists of one suitcase each (small at that). But, the car had to be packed precisionly, so that things didn't have to be moved around to get equipment for one stop or the other.

[Elle]

Originally Posted by Mardelin

Hummmm. Show people not crating toys. News to me. I don't know anyone that transports this breed by way of car seats.
I've seen some bypass a crate if they prep off site. The distance to/from show site from hotel. While some may say 1 mile, 200 miles, what's the difference? There is a difference. No freeways etc. We have our own perception of safety.
Unless you are referring to car seats that are cutting edge---unbeknown to me.
I've had two types of car seats. One a bucket type that hangs on the head rest. It has a popular screen print of the breed on it. I never put it in the car. The other is a foam type that sits in the seat. It has a pull out storage drawer in it with a black cover. This one holds two dogs. They can jump out of it/hanging from the side. People rave about the later one. Both junk.

There may be must of it than I'm aware of. Everyone parks all over the place.

If harnessed in properly the dogs shouldn't be able to jump out of a good dog seat. Just as in babes in baby seats, if used properly, they keep them pretty safe. I've been in a car accident with my dogs in a crate......even harnessed in tightly they were jostled around and one had to be taken to ER because of injuries caused by bein jostled around.

But, just because one chooses to use a car seat over a crate doesn't make them undeducated......at least the dog isn't lose in the car......[/QUOTE]
That's cute Mary LOL. undeducated
I said uneducated pet homes as an example of people that transport dogs without much understanding of safety. I'm not back peddling on it. IMO a show home should be well educated on transportation. I can't imagine a toy, especially a puppy being in a car seat on a freeway. JMHO.

[cj125]

[quote=Elle;3049574]

Originally Posted by Brooklynn

You're talking about pet homes that are uneducated.

Really? Pet homes are uneducated? Such an intelligent statement!



[quote=Elle;3049671]

Originally Posted by Brooklynn

Hummmm. Show people not crating toys. News to me. I don't know anyone that transports this breed by way of car seats.
I've seen some bypass a crate if they prep off site. The distance to/from show site from hotel. While some may say 1 mile, 200 miles, what's the difference? There is a difference. No freeways etc. We have our own perception of safety.
Unless you are referring to car seats that are cutting edge---unbeknown to me.
I've had two types of car seats. One a bucket type that hangs on the head rest. It has a popular screen print of the breed on it. I never put it in the car. The other is a foam type that sits in the seat. It has a pull out storage drawer in it with a black cover. This one holds two dogs. They can jump out of it/hanging from the side. People rave about the later one. Both junk.
There may be must of it than I'm aware of. Everyone parks all over the place.[/quote]
Umm - what are you "trying" to say here?

That's cute Mary LOL. undeducated
I said uneducated pet homes as an example of people that transport dogs without much understanding of safety. I'm not back peddling on it. IMO a show home should be well educated on transportation. I can't imagine a toy, especially a puppy being in a car seat on a freeway. JMHO.

Elle - it seems you have so much more knowledge than the rest of us... PLEASE educate us!

[lrichardsonrnc]

Gemy, please-please-please get a picture of your daughter's Yorkie in a real baby carseat! That is the cutest thing I have ever heard of and I bet it's really safe too. I actually thought of it but too afraid of what other people would think of me if I did it. Good for her! I am an infant care expert and I've watched crash dummies, on film, in baby carseats, as the automobile rolls over repeatedly and it is amazing how their little bodies and heads are protected. I say I love and protect Priscilla just like she was my human baby but sometimes I feel like a hipocrite when I learn better ways to take care of her and the chances I've taken.

[Elle]

[quote=cj125;3049826]

Originally Posted by Elle

Really? Pet homes are uneducated? Such an intelligent statement!

There may be must of it than I'm aware of. Everyone parks all over the place.

Umm - what are you "trying" to say here?
The words were
That I don't follow people to their cars. That there may more of it than I'm aware of.

[cj125]

[quote=Elle;3049671]

Originally Posted by Brooklynn

Hummmm. Show people not crating toys. News to me. I don't know anyone that transports this breed by way of car seats.
I've seen some bypass a crate if they prep off site. The distance to/from show site from hotel. While some may say 1 mile, 200 miles, what's the difference? There is a difference. No freeways etc. We have our own perception of safety.
Unless you are referring to car seats that are cutting edge---unbeknown to me.
I've had two types of car seats. One a bucket type that hangs on the head rest. It has a popular screen print of the breed on it. I never put it in the car. The other is a foam type that sits in the seat. It has a pull out storage drawer in it with a black cover. This one holds two dogs. They can jump out of it/hanging from the side. People rave about the later one. Both junk.

There may be must of it than I'm aware of. Everyone parks all over the place.

I still don't understand what you're trying to say here. More aware of what? What did parking have to do with car seats?

I'm not a show person, so I must be one of the pet homes that you're referring to, but I'm hardly uneducated.

I do put my Yorkies in car seats and they are safe.

I understand having to crate them when you're going to shows because normally you would be driving a longer distance to a show using a highway and there should be less stopping and starting while in traffic BUT for us pet homes putting our Yorkies in car seats is more pleasurable and just as safe for them. Putting them in a cage with all of the slowing down, stopping and going again would be jerking them around. In a car seat, they are surrounded by soft foam, securely tethered to a harness, and able to sit, stand or lay down comfortably plus I am able to turn around and check on them. I have been hit from behind while at a stop light and my kids were just fine.

I do think that the people who let their dogs sit in their laps while they are driving are uninformed about the safety of their dogs and others.

Of course, I know that there are very educated people driving around while talking on their cell phones and I think that is the biggest safety hazard that I've ever seen!