Long Tail...what do you do?

[Mardelin]

Everyone is entitled to posting their opinion. However, rudeness is not necessary. Especially when addressing them to a respected YT member that contributes so much to the forum. One of your threads addressing this subject has already been locked because of your rudeness.


I strongly suggest you read the following thread, before you post again

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/gen...d-respect.html


AKC Standard

General Appearance
. That of a long-haired toy terrier whose blue and tan coat is parted on the face and from the base of the skull to the end of the tail and hangs evenly and quite straight down each side of body. The body is neat, compact and well proportioned. The dog's high head carriage and confident manner should give the appearance of vigor and self importance.
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Head
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Small and rather flat on top, the skull not too prominent or round, the muzzle not too long, with the bite neither undershot nor overshot and teeth sound. Either scissors bite or level bite is acceptable. The nose is black. Eyes are medium in size and not too prominent; dark in color and sparkling with a sharp, intelligent expression. Eye rims are dark. Ears are small, V-shaped, carried erect and set not too far apart.

Body
Well proportioned and very compact. The back is rather short, the back line level, with height at shoulder the same as at the rump.
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Legs and Feet
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Forelegs should be straight, elbows neither in nor out. Hind legs straight when viewed from behind, but stifles are moderately bent when viewed from the sides. Feet are round with black toenails. Dew claws, if any, are generally removed from the hind legs. Dew claws on the forelegs may be removed.

Tail
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Docked to a medium length and carried slightly higher than the level of the back.
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Coat

Quality, texture and quantity of coat are of prime importance. Hair is glossy, fine and silky in texture. Coat on the body is moderately long and perfectly straight (not wavy). It may be trimmed to floor length to give ease of movement and a neater appearance, if desired. The fall on the head is long, tied with one bow in center of head or parted in the middle and tied with two bows. Hair on muzzle is very long. Hair should be trimmed short on tips of ears and may be trimmed on feet to give them a neat appearance.
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Colors
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Puppies are born black and tan and are normally darker in body color, showing an intermingling of black hair in the tan until they are matured. Color of hair on body and richness of tan on head and legs are of prime importance in adult dogs, to which the following color requirements apply: BLUE: Is a dark steel blue, not a silver blue and not mingled with fawn, bronzy or black hairs. TAN: All tan hair is darker at the roots than in the middle, shading to still lighter tan at the tips. There should be no sooty or black hair intermingled with any of the tan.
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Color on Body
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The blue extends over the body from back of neck to root of tail. Hair on tail is a darker blue, especially at end of tail.
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Head fall
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A rich golden tan, deeper in color at sides of head, at ear roots and on the muzzle, with ears a deep rich tan. Tan color should not extend down on back of neck.

Chest and Legs
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A bright, rich tan, not extending above the elbow on the forelegs nor above the stifle on the hind legs.

Weight
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Must not exceed seven pounds.

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Disqualification
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Any solid color or combination of colors other than blue and tan as described above. Any white markings other than a small white spot on the forechest that does not exceed 1 inch at its longest dimension.

[Brooklynn]

Originally Posted by Mardelin

Everyone is entitled to posting their opinion. However, rudeness is not necessary. Especially when addressing them to a respected YT member that contributes so much to the forum. One of your threads addressing this subject has already been locked because of your rudeness.


I strongly suggest you read the following thread, before you post again

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/gen...d-respect.html


AKC Standard

General Appearance
. That of a long-haired toy terrier whose blue and tan coat is parted on the face and from the base of the skull to the end of the tail and hangs evenly and quite straight down each side of body. The body is neat, compact and well proportioned. The dog's high head carriage and confident manner should give the appearance of vigor and self importance.
.
Head
.
Small and rather flat on top, the skull not too prominent or round, the muzzle not too long, with the bite neither undershot nor overshot and teeth sound. Either scissors bite or level bite is acceptable. The nose is black. Eyes are medium in size and not too prominent; dark in color and sparkling with a sharp, intelligent expression. Eye rims are dark. Ears are small, V-shaped, carried erect and set not too far apart.

Body
Well proportioned and very compact. The back is rather short, the back line level, with height at shoulder the same as at the rump.
.
Legs and Feet
.
Forelegs should be straight, elbows neither in nor out. Hind legs straight when viewed from behind, but stifles are moderately bent when viewed from the sides. Feet are round with black toenails. Dew claws, if any, are generally removed from the hind legs. Dew claws on the forelegs may be removed.

Tail
.
Docked to a medium length and carried slightly higher than the level of the back.
.
.
Coat

Quality, texture and quantity of coat are of prime importance. Hair is glossy, fine and silky in texture. Coat on the body is moderately long and perfectly straight (not wavy). It may be trimmed to floor length to give ease of movement and a neater appearance, if desired. The fall on the head is long, tied with one bow in center of head or parted in the middle and tied with two bows. Hair on muzzle is very long. Hair should be trimmed short on tips of ears and may be trimmed on feet to give them a neat appearance.
.
Colors
.
Puppies are born black and tan and are normally darker in body color, showing an intermingling of black hair in the tan until they are matured. Color of hair on body and richness of tan on head and legs are of prime importance in adult dogs, to which the following color requirements apply: BLUE: Is a dark steel blue, not a silver blue and not mingled with fawn, bronzy or black hairs. TAN: All tan hair is darker at the roots than in the middle, shading to still lighter tan at the tips. There should be no sooty or black hair intermingled with any of the tan.
.
Color on Body
.
The blue extends over the body from back of neck to root of tail. Hair on tail is a darker blue, especially at end of tail.
.
Head fall
.
A rich golden tan, deeper in color at sides of head, at ear roots and on the muzzle, with ears a deep rich tan. Tan color should not extend down on back of neck.

Chest and Legs
.
A bright, rich tan, not extending above the elbow on the forelegs nor above the stifle on the hind legs.

Weight
.
Must not exceed seven pounds.

.
Disqualification
.
Any solid color or combination of colors other than blue and tan as described above. Any white markings other than a small white spot on the forechest that does not exceed 1 inch at its longest dimension.

Well said Mary....while I do disagree with some things it is in the standard and as long as it's the standard I will adhere to it
OH well....some can just be so closed minded and for the record...if the docking is done right the pups at 3 days old never remembers it and is not tramuatized as much as the mom is....I guess it's cruel to cercimsize (sorry can't spell it) a human baby boy? Just laying out facts some things are done and some aren't

Donna

[jencar98]

Originally Posted by Brooklynn

Well said Mary....while I do disagree with some things it is in the standard and as long as it's the standard I will adhere to it
OH well....some can just be so closed minded and for the record...if the docking is done right the pups at 3 days old never remembers it and is not tramuatized as much as the mom is....I guess it's cruel to cercimsize (sorry can't spell it) a human baby boy? Just laying out facts some things are done and some aren't

Donna

Donna, I've wondered the same thing about those that think it is so cruel to dock a tail, if they don't approve of circumcision....or....infant ear piercings.....I see infants with ears pierced all the time!

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by Brooklynn

Well said Mary....while I do disagree with some things it is in the standard and as long as it's the standard I will adhere to it
OH well....some can just be so closed minded and for the record...if the docking is done right the pups at 3 days old never remembers it and is not tramuatized as much as the mom is....I guess it's cruel to cercimsize (sorry can't spell it) a human baby boy? Just laying out facts some things are done and some aren't

Donna

Yep! I heard my baby boy screaming when they circumsized him and it lasted for alot longer than a second as it does with pups.....

[Brooklynn]

Originally Posted by jencar98

Donna, I've wondered the same thing about those that think it is so cruel to dock a tail, if they don't approve of circumcision....or....infant ear piercings.....I see infants with ears pierced all the time!

UH HUH....so I guess her complaint just isn't valid in my opinion....

Donna

[YorkieRose]

One of the wonderful things about dogs is their ability to adapt to just about anything...dogs have no regrets and waste none of their life remembering what body part they lost or doesn't work...you see that every day on Animal Planet. I have had 3 legged Yorkies and blind ones..they were happy and content...so a missing tail is not something I would be too worried about.. it is a matter of opinion...and when AKC forbids it, I will stop removing them.

[WinstonMom]

Well FriscoMom, I guess I am one of the freaks that cuts the tails off of my puppies. I don't do it myself, my vet does it. I live in Canada and soon it will be illegal for vets to perform this procedure. I do not do it for kicks. I don't like to do it and I would only do it on a pup that was destined for the show ring, but at two to three days of age, one cannot pick the which pups will head for the show ring and which will be pets only. Once my vet can no longer perform this procedure for me, I will no longer dock the tails on any of my puppies. As having a full tail is not a disqualification for show, I will at that point in time head into the show ring with a full tail and my head held high. The Canadian Yorkshire Terrier Association is in the process of reviewing the standard now, to the best of my knowledge. Until this time, please do not accuse reputable breeders, who put their heart and soul into their chosen hobby of being freaks or removing body parts from small animals for kicks. Nobody does this because they actually enjoy it. That you thought one docks tails for kicks is truly offensive.

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by Mardelin

Yep! I heard my baby boy screaming when they circumsized him and it lasted for alot longer than a second as it does with pups.....

No lie.....I was standing outside the room crying when they circumsized my son. They did it IN THE NURSERY in full view. The doctor's back hid the bad part, but my baby boy was screaming his head off. I was SO upset.
No...he does not remember, but *I* do.

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by ladyjane

No lie.....I was standing outside the room crying when they circumsized my son. They did it IN THE NURSERY in full view. The doctor's back hid the bad part, but my baby boy was screaming his head off. I was SO upset.
No...he does not remember, but *I* do.

Me too.

At least the pups get even with me....9 times out of 10, as I begin to get them into position.....guess what they poop on me.....

[ladyjane]

Oh, and I did not have him circumsized just for kicks. Nor do I think that anyone who docked my yorkies tails did it for kicks.

People do things to dogs for kicks alright and it is not docking of tails.......they burn them with cigarettes, poor acid on them, tie them to cars and drag them, electrocute them, .........lots of awful things. They are the people to be called out imho.

[YorkieRose]

CUTTING a tail off is horrible..that is why I do not do it...I clamp and quickly twist... no blood, no need for stitches..and I have done it while the puppy nursed from mom...so, I agree NO CUTTING..I hate it...I think the stitches are the worst and the pups scream.

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by Mardelin

Me too.

At least the pups get even with me....9 times out of 10, as I begin to get them into position.....guess what they poop on me.....

That'll teach ya!

[bjh]

Originally Posted by Mardelin

Yep! I heard my baby boy screaming when they circumsized him and it lasted for alot longer than a second as it does with pups.....

Mary, that gives me goose bumps reading this. I am glad I had two girls.

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by bjh

Mary, that gives me goose bumps reading this. I am glad I had two girls.

Yep! And later, working in pediatrics the Y Board they strap them to......

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by Mardelin

Yep! And later, working in pediatrics the Y Board they strap them to......

STOP IT!!!!