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Sugar's Mom · 01-30-2008, 02:58 PM

you know that just sucks. i was just getting brave enough to try my girl in AKC but not now. people new to showing and just learning don't have a chance.

JaLaYorkieGirl · 01-30-2008, 03:37 PM

Donna I think her biggest set back is her tan, it is slow in coming in...with all these light heads getting DQ that makes me worry, and with her being 12 months old she is not technically a puppy still. I think by the time her tan is nice and rich she will be lightening too much in blue! I think she is dark enough now imo in the blue to show...but the tan is just not there, it is nice and rich around her muzzle and ears...and slowly coming in on her head! Of course I would love to see her darker...but right now I think she has the cake..lol.

I have a 5 week old puppy who is very nice and dark, but we have a lot of waiting to do to see if she makes the cut...lol.

I will attach a couple pictures of Maia so you can see her...
The first one was just a month ago, she was a couple days shy of a year!
The second one is her at 8 months old.
Last one is her color at 6 months old, her first show.

JaLaYorkieGirl · 01-30-2008, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by tegamom1

Have more info in the puppy, but I find it more upsetting, I guess you could say. It was a 6 - 9 mo. bitch. Born 7/27/07!!!!! It was 6 months old!!!!!
Images Playgirl out of Ch Images Play It Again and Ch Images Look At Me Shine. Interesting, a half brother (same sire) won the Breed. This is ridiculous!! JMO

That is very sad...I would have been so upset to have such a young puppy DQ.

Just sitting here shaking my head...

Brooklynn · 01-30-2008, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by JaLaYorkieGirl

Donna I think her biggest set back is her tan, it is slow in coming in...with all these light heads getting DQ that makes me worry, and with her being 12 months old she is not technically a puppy still. I think by the time her tan is nice and rich she will be lightening too much in blue! I think she is dark enough now imo in the blue to show...but the tan is just not there, it is nice and rich around her muzzle and ears...and slowly coming in on her head! Of course I would love to see her darker...but right now I think she has the cake..lol.

I have a 5 week old puppy who is very nice and dark, but we have a lot of waiting to do to see if she makes the cut...lol.

I will attach a couple pictures of Maia so you can see her...
The first one was just a month ago, she was a couple days shy of a year!
The second one is her at 8 months old.
Last one is her color at 6 months old, her first show.

she's beautiful! Reminds me of my Radar!! I think her tan is fine and wouldn't get DQ'ed at all....I think where the DQ is being played is in the puppy class for being black still and in classes older than that would be the blue not her tan...that's my humble opinion....

diva pup · 01-30-2008, 03:42 PM

As confusing as the DQ seems to be for some judges I am still taking my puppy the AKC route. What else can we do, wait 4 years

JaLaYorkieGirl · 01-30-2008, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Brooklynn

she's beautiful! Reminds me of my Radar!! I think her tan is fine and wouldn't get DQ'ed at all....I think where the DQ is being played is in the puppy class for being black still and in classes older than that would be the blue not her tan...that's my humble opinion....

Thank you very much for your opinion, your Radar is simply amazing so I take that as a huge compliment! I love showing her, and she adores it, I think I will still take her UKC in May, and consider taking her AKC again!

Would you put her in the 12-18 month class or the bred-by? do you think it matters?

kathylynch · 01-30-2008, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Brooklynn

AKC or the YTCA hasn't changed the colors...it's just now a DQ for the show ring to have the incorrect coat color but we all have to remember dark steel blue can be subjective and all have different interputations of what it is

Donna Bird
Brooklynn's Yorkshire Terriers

Dark steel blue in what I understand is a gun metal blue.
Looks like the color of a cannon. metallic in color.
not clearical grey not light blue not black it is a gun metal blue.
that is what I have read in many books. don't know if I am understanding it right.
Kathy

yorkiekist · 01-30-2008, 10:27 PM

I have a nice 6 month old that I will hopefully be showing this spring. She is much darker than the boy I am showing (or not showing for 4 more years now as he is light).
She is still light on the head, but beautiful dark tan on her muzzle. I have a list of who not to show under and hope that works out. I just hope that the judges for the Az shows in March and April are good, level headed judges.

yorkiekist · 01-30-2008, 10:28 PM

Maia is beautiful!!!!

Brooklynn · 01-31-2008, 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by JaLaYorkieGirl

Thank you very much for your opinion, your Radar is simply amazing so I take that as a huge compliment! I love showing her, and she adores it, I think I will still take her UKC in May, and consider taking her AKC again!

Would you put her in the 12-18 month class or the bred-by? do you think it matters?

I'd personally put her in the bred-by class! I think you have a great shot with her and I wouldn't worry about the gold....I think all the DQ's are leaning towards the blue color...trust me, I've seen a very very light coated dog in the ring that didn't get DQ'ed...I'd pick and choose the judges I'd show under...again, most aren't DQ'ing most adults....She is pretty and I'd still show her AKC

Brooklynn · 01-31-2008, 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by kathylynch

Dark steel blue in what I understand is a gun metal blue.
Looks like the color of a cannon. metallic in color.
not clearical grey not light blue not black it is a gun metal blue.
that is what I have read in many books. don't know if I am understanding it right.
Kathy

That's what I hear too....but again as you know everyone has a different interpuation of color...but you have the right idea

Donna

Ladyhawk · 01-31-2008, 06:20 AM

I read someplace that the blue should be the color of the railroad tracks when the sun hits them just right. What's that suppose to mean? What way is just right? What time of day and which side are you standing on? In the end it really is a matter of interpretation and taste. Your Maia reminds me of my Carly. At 11 months old she is just starting to golden up and has the slowest growing coat I have ever seen. I'm afraid that by the time she has any gold or length to her coat her blue may be to light. For now her blue is very blue, not silver at all. She has leg, a topline to die for, good length of neck (you can't tell in the pic) and carries herself like a princess but she may just be able to give me incredible pups because of the coat. It's so hard to get it all in one package.

Tx2Stepn · 01-31-2008, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by kathylynch

Dark steel blue in what I understand is a gun metal blue.
Looks like the color of a cannon. metallic in color.
not clearical grey not light blue not black it is a gun metal blue.
that is what I have read in many books. don't know if I am understanding it right.
Kathy

This is why I think the new standard is nuts because not everyone considers dark steel blue to be gun metal blue. When the original standard was written they could have easily used the words "gun metal blue" if they intended the coats to be that dark. Instead they used "steel blue" with a qualifer "dark" in front of it. To me, this means that they were looking for a coat with the definate color of steel in it but a darker shade. Remember that color is added to the steel in order to get gun metal blue, so it is no longer "steel" in color.

Ladyhawk · 01-31-2008, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Tx2Stepn

This is why I think the new standard is nuts because not everyone considers dark steel blue to be gun metal blue. When the original standard was written they could have easily used the words "gun metal blue" if they intended the coats to be that dark. Instead they used "steel blue" with a qualifer "dark" in front of it. To me, this means that they were looking for a coat with the definate color of steel in it but a darker shade. Remember that color is added to the steel in order to get gun metal blue, so it is no longer "steel" in color.

Excellent Point

CC's · 01-31-2008, 09:05 AM

A gun barrel is turned the dark color by a process called blueing. So a gun barrel could be considered "dark steel blue".

Some think its more like stainless steel, some think its darker and some in between.

It really is open to each judges preference. Just as before, but now they can DQ you. 3 DQ's and you can't show that yorkie again at all.

This was my biggest concern about the DQ added.

01-30-2008, 02:58 PM	#46
Sugar's Mom BANNED! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Kentucky Posts: 9,248	you know that just sucks. i was just getting brave enough to try my girl in AKC but not now. people new to showing and just learning don't have a chance.

01-30-2008, 03:42 PM	#50
diva pup BANNED! Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,139	As confusing as the DQ seems to be for some judges I am still taking my puppy the AKC route. What else can we do, wait 4 years

01-30-2008, 10:27 PM	#53
yorkiekist YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: HOT, HOT, HOT AZ Posts: 3,150	I have a nice 6 month old that I will hopefully be showing this spring. She is much darker than the boy I am showing (or not showing for 4 more years now as he is light). She is still light on the head, but beautiful dark tan on her muzzle. I have a list of who not to show under and hope that works out. I just hope that the judges for the Az shows in March and April are good, level headed judges.

01-30-2008, 10:28 PM	#54
yorkiekist YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: HOT, HOT, HOT AZ Posts: 3,150	Maia is beautiful!!!!

01-31-2008, 09:05 AM	#60
CC's YT Addict Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 402	A gun barrel is turned the dark color by a process called blueing. So a gun barrel could be considered "dark steel blue". Some think its more like stainless steel, some think its darker and some in between. It really is open to each judges preference. Just as before, but now they can DQ you. 3 DQ's and you can't show that yorkie again at all. This was my biggest concern about the DQ added.