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tegamom1 · 01-28-2008, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Yelena

You are talking about this show? http://www.jbradshaw.com/05/index.htm Right?

Yes, this is the show.

Yelena · 01-28-2008, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Brooklynn

I will mark Dorthy Dalton as a judge I won't take a puppy too...or an entry at all...
Donna Bird

May I ask who else do you have on that list?
1. Judge: Mr. William E. Usherwood ( http://www.jbradshaw.com/42/ind107.htm )
2. Judge: Mrs. Dorothy A. Dalton

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yorkiekist · 01-28-2008, 11:10 AM

I was planning on entering the spring shows here in AZ, but now have changed my mind on that.Ok, Im thinking about it!!LOL I put alot of blood, sweat and tears as well as research, study, and money into these wonderful dogs. And then to have uneducated judges Dq them?? four years and 10 months to go.Then, hopefully, the YTCA can "clarify" the standard to these judges.

Brooklynn · 01-28-2008, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Yelena

May I ask who else do you have on that list?
1. Judge: Mr. William E. Usherwood ( http://www.jbradshaw.com/42/ind107.htm )
2. Judge: Mrs. Dorothy A. Dalton

Thank you

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I won't show to Usherwood or Filburn but that is my choice but I won't show to many judges LOL even ones that don't use the DQ
I can't remember who all has used the DQ

Bravo916 · 01-28-2008, 01:54 PM

I cant believe this judge DQ'ed a puppy. It just shows pure ignorance to the standard and the stipulations within.

I wish there was another way to "rate" judges, other than by just witholding our entries. Wouldn't it be nice if judges had to face an annual 360 evaluation by exhibitors and other judges? Wishful thinking lol...

Shelby&Seymour · 01-28-2008, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Sugar's Mom

how old is the puppy? That upsets me but I heard several judges are doing this since the new color standard came out.

NEW COLOR STANDARD??...... What is the new standard? I am surprised that they would change the "standard" of a Yorkie.

tegamom1 · 01-28-2008, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Shelby&Seymour

NEW COLOR STANDARD??...... What is the new standard? I am surprised that they would change the "standard" of a Yorkie.

There is just a new disqualification. There is also a directive that goes along with it that apparently some judges haven't bothered to read. Hopefully, anyone having a puppy that is DQ'd will report the DQ to their AKC rep.http://ytca.org/frame_index2.html

tegamom1 · 01-28-2008, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Sugar's Mom

how old is the puppy? That upsets me but I heard several judges are doing this since the new color standard came out.

I don't know how old the puppy was. Mary's husband Rob was the one that witnessed this DQ. Mary was getting her girl ready. She thought it might have been 6 - 9, if so, that would make it even more ridiculous. The catalog should be marked in a day or so and I will check it out.

topknot · 01-28-2008, 03:05 PM

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I won't show to Usherwood or Filburn but that is my choice but I won't show to many judges LOL even ones that don't use the DQ
I can't remember who all has used the DQ - Brooklynn

Filburn is judging in Atlanta on Saturday. Should be interesting. I did not enter under him. Just my right and my choice. I will be showing on Sunday. I heared Filburn will not take on any more assignments for yorkies for now.
T.

Brooklynn · 01-28-2008, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by topknot

Filburn is judging in Atlanta on Saturday. Should be interesting. I did not enter under him. Just my right and my choice. I will be showing on Sunday. I heared Filburn will not take on any more assignments for yorkies for now.
T.

that's what I hear but like I've stated before it's always the judges ring and they can do what they want

but I can do what I want and chose not to enter under certain judges

There are judges I won't show under and they have never DQ'ed but they don't like my type of yorkie so I won't waste my money showing to a judge that doesn't like the type of yorkie I show

Donna

topknot · 01-28-2008, 03:49 PM

I do the same thing - look if I have a chance or not with what I want to show.
With Gi - it did not matter whom she showed under - she always did really well. Unbelievable! They are seemed to love her.

We just showed her at all the shows at theat time and she won most all of them.
T.

Yelena · 01-28-2008, 11:00 PM

I'm so very confused...looks like Mrs. Dorothy A. Dalton was judging Westminster in 2007 Non sporting breed http://www.westminsterkennelclub.org/2007/judges/ how can you ignore that?

or this is a wrong Mrs. Dorothy A. Dalton

yorkiekist · 01-28-2008, 11:17 PM

She may be a good judge of other breeds but she is not interpreting the Yorkie standard correctly with the addition of the DQ for unacceptable show colors. I believe the standard states that puppies are not to be DQ'd and yet she went right ahead and DQ'd a puppy. So, if she is unable to interpret the standard as written, then I see no reason to enter under her.(or a few others) It would be a waste of time and money.

Sugar's Mom · 01-29-2008, 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by tegamom1

There is just a new disqualification. There is also a directive that goes along with it that apparently some judges haven't bothered to read. Hopefully, anyone having a puppy that is DQ'd will report the DQ to their AKC rep.http://ytca.org/frame_index2.html

yes, this is what I am talking about.

Tx2Stepn · 01-29-2008, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by gardenyorkies

Oh Boy!...It is going to be a long 5 years!

~Laura

Exactly what I was thinking!

01-28-2008, 11:00 PM	#27
Yelena YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 544	I'm so very confused...looks like Mrs. Dorothy A. Dalton was judging Westminster in 2007 Non sporting breed http://www.westminsterkennelclub.org/2007/judges/ how can you ignore that? or this is a wrong Mrs. Dorothy A. Dalton Last edited by Yelena; 01-28-2008 at 11:02 PM.

01-28-2008, 11:10 AM	#18
yorkiekist YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: HOT, HOT, HOT AZ Posts: 3,150	I was planning on entering the spring shows here in AZ, but now have changed my mind on that.Ok, Im thinking about it!!LOL I put alot of blood, sweat and tears as well as research, study, and money into these wonderful dogs. And then to have uneducated judges Dq them?? four years and 10 months to go.Then, hopefully, the YTCA can "clarify" the standard to these judges.

01-28-2008, 01:54 PM	#20
Bravo916 No Longer a Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: CA Posts: 459	I cant believe this judge DQ'ed a puppy. It just shows pure ignorance to the standard and the stipulations within. I wish there was another way to "rate" judges, other than by just witholding our entries. Wouldn't it be nice if judges had to face an annual 360 evaluation by exhibitors and other judges? Wishful thinking lol...

01-28-2008, 03:49 PM	#26
topknot Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: GA Posts: 3,787	I do the same thing - look if I have a chance or not with what I want to show. With Gi - it did not matter whom she showed under - she always did really well. Unbelievable! They are seemed to love her. We just showed her at all the shows at theat time and she won most all of them. T.

01-28-2008, 11:17 PM	#28
yorkiekist YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: HOT, HOT, HOT AZ Posts: 3,150	She may be a good judge of other breeds but she is not interpreting the Yorkie standard correctly with the addition of the DQ for unacceptable show colors. I believe the standard states that puppies are not to be DQ'd and yet she went right ahead and DQ'd a puppy. So, if she is unable to interpret the standard as written, then I see no reason to enter under her.(or a few others) It would be a waste of time and money.