Just an FYI

[PrestigeousYT]

Originally Posted by Brooklynn

that's what I hear but like I've stated before it's always the judges ring and they can do what they want but I can do what I want and chose not to enter under certain judges There are judges I won't show under and they have never DQ'ed but they don't like my type of yorkie so I won't waste my money showing to a judge that doesn't like the type of yorkie I show

Donna

Donna

I am glad you pointed this out because a lot of the new people don't realize this. We have always had this choice. Now we just have a bigger list of who we won't show to. So Majors will even be harder to find in the next 5 years.
We have always had a list of who we will show our dogs to and who we won't show to, you have to research your judges just as you have to research your breeders.
I have some nice darker pups coming up and some will consider them too dark/black if I show them too early. It will take them longer to break so I am not sure at what age yet I will get them in the ring. They are 6 months now and I am keeping all three of them. I just hate the fact that now showing puppies to get them socialized we will now hesitate getting them in the ring so they will have experience in that atmosphere and have to research even more to see what judges are going to be DQing them even thou they are not an adult so their color is not a correct color for adult.
They are in confirmations puppy classes but thats not at all like the noise/atmosphere at a real show.


Deana
Prestigeous

[Brooklynn]

Originally Posted by PrestigeousYT

Donna

I am glad you pointed this out because a lot of the new people don't realize this. We have always had this choice. Now we just have a bigger list of who we won't show to. So Majors will even be harder to find in the next 5 years.
We have always had a list of who we will show our dogs to and who we won't show to, you have to research your judges just as you have to research your breeders.
I have some nice darker pups coming up and some will consider them too dark/black if I show them too early. It will take them longer to break so I am not sure at what age yet I will get them in the ring. They are 6 months now and I am keeping all three of them. I just hate the fact that now showing puppies to get them socialized we will now hesitate getting them in the ring so they will have experience in that atmosphere and have to research even more to see what judges are going to be DQing them even thou they are not an adult so their color is not a correct color for adult.
They are in confirmations puppy classes but thats not at all like the noise/atmosphere at a real show.


Deana
Prestigeous

I don't think majors will be hard to come by...we've had several majors in the Texas area so far. Most pay attention to what judges are DQ'ing and not entering under them or just not entering those yorkies they think the judges will DQ. But in my opinion if you think you have a yorkie that a judge will DQ and I"m not talking from the puppy classes you shouldn't be entering in the first place...JMHO Most of the old time judges and breeder judges aren't applying the DQ it's mostly provisionals in my opinion besides two we've mentioned here. But yes, it's gonna be a long 4 1/2 more years....

Donna
Brooklynn

I just have a different type yorkie that I like....

[PrestigeousYT]

Originally Posted by Brooklynn

I don't think majors will be hard to come by...we've had several majors in the Texas area so far. Most pay attention to what judges are DQ'ing and not entering under them or just not entering those yorkies they think the judges will DQ. But in my opinion if you think you have a yorkie that a judge will DQ and I"m not talking from the puppy classes you shouldn't be entering in the first place...JMHO Most of the old time judges and breeder judges aren't applying the DQ it's mostly provisionals in my opinion besides two we've mentioned here. But yes, it's gonna be a long 4 1/2 more years....

Donna
Brooklynn

I just have a different type yorkie that I like....

Well yea I have been showing since 99 you can bet I won't enter a Yorkie in the ring (adult) that I have any concern about a DQ.
I think this is going to be really hard for the new exhibitors to try to get thru the next 5 years.
I will wait it out on my pups to mature a little more before deciding what move to make with them, I have an 11 month old girl that is ready to go out in a few months, so while we work with her I will have time to see who will be next and make our show decisions. One of our breedings has already finished in TX since the DQ was in effect. So the DQ isn't going to stop us from showing our type of Yorkies.

Deana
Prestigeous

[Sugar's Mom]

Originally Posted by PrestigeousYT

Donna

I am glad you pointed this out because a lot of the new people don't realize this. We have always had this choice. Now we just have a bigger list of who we won't show to. So Majors will even be harder to find in the next 5 years.
We have always had a list of who we will show our dogs to and who we won't show to, you have to research your judges just as you have to research your breeders.
I have some nice darker pups coming up and some will consider them too dark/black if I show them too early. It will take them longer to break so I am not sure at what age yet I will get them in the ring. They are 6 months now and I am keeping all three of them. I just hate the fact that now showing puppies to get them socialized we will now hesitate getting them in the ring so they will have experience in that atmosphere and have to research even more to see what judges are going to be DQing them even thou they are not an adult so their color is not a correct color for adult.
They are in confirmations puppy classes but thats not at all like the noise/atmosphere at a real show.


Deana
Prestigeous

My dilema as well!!!!!!!!

[PrestigeousYT]

I think I am going to try some puppy matches just to get them out and about and prehaps maybe do some UKC
I have never shown in UKC, does anyone know how things are going with the Yorkies in those shows?

Deana
and The Prestigeous Yorkies

[JaLaYorkieGirl]

I would love to know about UKC as well...I am planning on taking our puppies UKC now and taking Maia that route, I have decided to pull her from AKC which just breaks my heart!

I love Maia, she is sound in structure, showy and I love her head but she is too light. With the new DQ I am tired of holding my breath every time I enter the ring...I have to disagree that they do not belong there to begin with if they are to light...yes the perfect dog is dark steel blue and the shaded golden tan...but dogs are not perfect! I just do not have it in me to dye them, the title is just not that important imo. I think she belongs in the ring and she loves it so much we will just do UKC...I enjoy showing her too much to quit because of what I feel is a judge being ridiculous!

I agree we always have the choice not to enter under certain judges, that is our right as exhibitors...my list is just growing for a different reason right now!

[Tx2Stepn]

Originally Posted by PrestigeousYT

I think I am going to try some puppy matches just to get them out and about and prehaps maybe do some UKC
I have never shown in UKC, does anyone know how things are going with the Yorkies in those shows?

Deana
and The Prestigeous Yorkies

The UKC has their own Standard and are not governed by AKC. Take notice of the portion dealing w/ puppies...

Here it is:

GENERAL APPEARANCE

The Yorkshire Terrier’s appearance is that of a well-balanced, long coated, small (Toy-type) terrier, readily identified by its steel blue and tan, straight-flowing coat. The hair is parted on the muzzle and from the base of the skull to the end of the tail. The body is square and evenly proportioned. The dog’s high head carriage and confident manner gives the appearance of vigor and self-importance.

CHARACTERISTICS

Although small, the Yorkshire Terrier is spirited, reflecting its terrier strains, and very healthy and strong. Yorkshire Terriers are very intelligent and lovable and make excellent companions.

HEAD

SKULL - The skull is rather small and flat.

MUZZLE - The muzzle is not too long in proportion to the skull.

TEETH - A full complement of strong white teeth meet in a level or scissors bite.

Faults: Overshot bite. Undershot bite.

EYES - The eyes are medium in size and placed to look directly forward. They are dark in color and sparkle with a sharp, intelligent expression. The eye rims are dark.

NOSE - The nose is black.

EARS - The ears are small and V-shaped and carried erect. They are set high on the head, with the hair trimmed short on the tips.

NECK

The neck is of good length and is set to allow for high head carriage.

FOREQUARTERS

The shoulders are well laid back.

FORELEGS - The forelegs are straight. Dewclaws may be removed.

BODY

The body is compact, with a level topline and moderate spring of rib.

HINDQUARTERS

The hindquarters are sturdy and well muscled.

HIND LEGS - Straight when viewed from behind, with moderate angulation at the stifle. Dewclaws may be removed.

FEET

The feet are round with black toenails.

TAIL

The tail is customarily docked to a medium length. The tail set is level with the topline, with the tail carried slightly higher than the level of the back. If undocked, the tail is as straight as possible, well covered with hair, and carried a little above the level of the topline. On an undocked tail the hair will be a darker blue than on the rest of the body, especially at the tip.

FauIt: Low tail set.

COAT

The coat is long, perfectly straight, fine and glossy. It is silky in texture and cool to the touch. The fall on the head and muzzle are very long. The fall on the head is tied up with one bow in the center of the head. The hair on the tips of the ears should be trimmed short.

The body coat may be trimmed to floor length for ease of movement and the feet may be trimmed for neatness.

Faults: Cotton- or wool-textured coat in adults.

COLOR

Puppies are born black and tan and are normally darker in body color, showing an intermingling of black hair in the tan until they are mature. The mature coat color occurs gradually; therefore, puppies should not be faulted for lack of color change until they are two years old. The colors in adult dogs are:

BLUE - a dark steel blue.

TAN - All tan hairs are darker at the roots than in the middle, shading to a still lighter tan at the tips.

On the body, the dark steel blue extends over the body, from the back of the head to the root of the tail. The headfall is a rich golden tan, deeper in color at the sides of the head, at the ear roots and on the muzzle, with the ears being a deep rich tan. The tan color should not extend down the back of the neck.

The hair on the chest and legs is, a bright, rich tan, not extending above the elbow on the forelegs or above the stifle on the hind legs.

Faults: In adult dogs, fawn or bronze hairs mingling with silver-blue color. Sooty or black hair intermingled with the tan.

Disqualifications: Any change in coat color by artificial means. Albinism.

WEIGHT

The Yorkshire Terrier weighs no more than seven pounds.

GAIT

The dogs exhibit a smooth and flowing movement, in straight line, with good reach and strong drive and straight action front and rear. The topline remains level while gaiting.

DISQUALIFICATIONS

Unilateral or bilateral cryptorchid. Viciousness or extreme shyness. Any change in coat color by artificial means. Albinism.

[Tx2Stepn]

As a side note Yorkies are in the Companion Group and are shown in the group w/ the following breeds:

Affenpinscher

Bichon Frise

Bolognese

Boston Terrier

Brussels Griffon

Cavalier King Charles Spaniel

Chihuahua

Chinese Crested

Chinese Crested (Revised March 1, 2008)

Coton De Tulear

Dalmatian

Dalmatian Revised January 1, 2008

English Bulldog

English Toy Spaniel

French Bulldog

Havanese

Italian Greyhound

Italian Greyhound (Revised March 1, 2008)

Japanese Chin

Lhasa Apso

Löwchen

Maltese

Miniature Pinscher

Miniature Pinscher (Revised January 1, 2008)

Papillon

Pekingese

Petit Brabancon

Pomeranian

Poodle (Miniature and Toy/Solid & Multicolored)

Pug

Schipperke

Shih Tzu

Tibetan Spaniel

Tibetan Terrier

Yorkshire Terrier

[Sugar's Mom]

is there a place "puppy matches" are listed. How do you find those? Thanks

[Brooklynn]

Originally Posted by JaLaYorkieGirl

I would love to know about UKC as well...I am planning on taking our puppies UKC now and taking Maia that route, I have decided to pull her from AKC which just breaks my heart!

I love Maia, she is sound in structure, showy and I love her head but she is too light. With the new DQ I am tired of holding my breath every time I enter the ring...I have to disagree that they do not belong there to begin with if they are to light...yes the perfect dog is dark steel blue and the shaded golden tan...but dogs are not perfect! I just do not have it in me to dye them, the title is just not that important imo. I think she belongs in the ring and she loves it so much we will just do UKC...I enjoy showing her too much to quit because of what I feel is a judge being ridiculous!

I agree we always have the choice not to enter under certain judges, that is our right as exhibitors...my list is just growing for a different reason right now!

What do you consider too light? Now is she is closer to white silver in color then I wouldn't show her AKC but if she's consider a medium blue then I see no reason not to show her AKC, that color isn't being DQ'ed

[PrestigeousYT]

Originally Posted by Sugar's Mom

is there a place "puppy matches" are listed. How do you find those? Thanks

You can find some on www.Infodog.com
Also check kennel clubs in your area to see if they will be having any.

Deana
and The Prestigeous Yorkies

[Yorkiekids]

I think it was a shame that they changed the required colors.

[Brooklynn]

Originally Posted by Yorkiekids

I think it was a shame that they changed the required colors.

AKC or the YTCA hasn't changed the colors...it's just now a DQ for the show ring to have the incorrect coat color but we all have to remember dark steel blue can be subjective and all have different interputations of what it is

Donna Bird
Brooklynn's Yorkshire Terriers

[tegamom1]

Have more info in the puppy, but I find it more upsetting, I guess you could say. It was a 6 - 9 mo. bitch. Born 7/27/07!!!!! It was 6 months old!!!!!
Images Playgirl out of Ch Images Play It Again and Ch Images Look At Me Shine. Interesting, a half brother (same sire) won the Breed. This is ridiculous!! JMO

[Sugar's Mom]

Originally Posted by JaLaYorkieGirl

I would love to know about UKC as well...I am planning on taking our puppies UKC now and taking Maia that route, I have decided to pull her from AKC which just breaks my heart!

I love Maia, she is sound in structure, showy and I love her head but she is too light. With the new DQ I am tired of holding my breath every time I enter the ring...I have to disagree that they do not belong there to begin with if they are to light...yes the perfect dog is dark steel blue and the shaded golden tan...but dogs are not perfect! I just do not have it in me to dye them, the title is just not that important imo. I think she belongs in the ring and she loves it so much we will just do UKC...I enjoy showing her too much to quit because of what I feel is a judge being ridiculous!

I agree we always have the choice not to enter under certain judges, that is our right as exhibitors...my list is just growing for a different reason right now!

http://www.unitedkennelclub.com/ConformationEvents.htm