So many need homes in Missouri

[yorkiesmiles]

When you report someone on Petfinder, do they respond to you at all? Will you know if they remove her? When I was googling Nevermore Farms, etc. I found that 4-5 yrs ago, she & this so called rescue was being discussed on other pet forums - and they said then that she was listing on Petfinder

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by yorkiesmiles

When you report someone on Petfinder, do they respond to you at all? Will you know if they remove her? When I was googling Nevermore Farms, etc. I found that 4-5 yrs ago, she & this so called rescue was being discussed on other pet forums - and they said then that she was listing on Petfinder

I received a reply from one site...they said they had removed her years ago and wanted to know how I found the link to them. I need to send them the information.
Petfinder did reply to thank me and to say that they are turning it over to their investigator.

[Wylie's Mom]

Can she also be reported to her local Humane Ass'n and ASPCA for investigation?

[megansmomma]

Originally Posted by ladyjane

I received a reply from one site...they said they had removed her years ago and wanted to know how I found the link to them. I need to send them the information.
Petfinder did reply to thank me and to say that they are turning it over to their investigator.

[megansmomma]

Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom

Can she also be reported to her local Humane Ass'n and ASPCA for investigation?

I think the way they are getting away with the horrible scam is they are outright saying they are not a 501c rescue~just helping these poor unwanted dogs. I have been reading some of the different things on line about them and they have been around since at least 2004!

[YorkieShadow]

You all have found alot out on them. cant they get in trouble for saying their a rescue if their a mill? I hope so.

[fannie]

This makes me sick. I know exactly where Unionville is. We used to play them in highschool sports. If I still lived there I would just take a little drive and see what was going on.

I have no idea what can be done.

[Yesibv]

Hello Everyone

I would like to say that alot of you here are being judgmental and pointing fingers on assumptions only. There is always 2 sides to a story. Do not judge a book by its cover. You may find out that you were actually wrong about this place and Diane.

Alot of you are making reports based on what exactly? Pics posted on a website? Have you had your own personal negative incident with this shelter or lady running it??? That you can back up your theory.

Be careful that because of your ignorance and lack of information you actually ruin the possibilities of so many pets finding loving homes in the future because you think you did something good.

I recently adopted 2 puppies from Diane and let me tell you I was so hesistant and undecided especially because they are out of state and the cost of shipping, etc... I was afraid it may have been a scam and that I wasn't educated enough to know. From so many shelters I found through petfinder.com that I had either called or emailed regarding a particular pet she was the one that replied right away, and let me tell you I emailed it like 10 times a day asking her all kind of questions and concerns. She was always honest and even referred me to a yahoo group of created by people who have adopted from her over the years and their stories, updates, concerns, etc.... She said I can join and ask any questions I want which I did and the outcome was more than I had expected. So many people shared their experience and feedback and it was all POSITIVE. Many of them have adopted pets from her more than once over the years because of how satisfied they were with what they got and seen. Some of them have even adopted more than one pet. Alot of these pets being adopted are already grown too. Not all pets are babies.

I was one of the person's who adopted from her this weekend in IL and let me tell you there were over 10 people there waiting for their adopted pets. Many of these pets were already grown, not all were babies, not all were perfect, some were even cats, big dogs, small dogs, puppies. EVERYTHING WAS DONE LEGIT.

Today, I am still waiting to hear from other shelters I had contacted who have not even bother answering an email nor returning a phone call. On top of that during my search for a pet (we wanted a rescued pet) before finding petsneedingpeople.com all rescue shelters I found in Illinois, IN and even WI their fees were just about the same as petsneedingpeople.com and in some of them even more, alot more. and these were shelters closer to me.

So the website may not be a non-profit org, maybe not yet, that does take alot of work but they are at least state licensed and that should count for something.

Some of the pics may not look their best but did you ever stop to think that when pets are being rescued from death row, puppy mills or wherever they come from they aren't exactly at the best time in their lives. Why sugar coated and make them look all nice and groomed just to appeal more people? These pets are being rescued from all kinds of neglect, reject and abuse and even death row they need someone to love them at their worst not at their best only. Who cares what they look like when they first arrive at the ranch, how about the positive outcome, of when they're placed in a loving home??? Isn't that what its all about? The fees of rescuing them are about the same fees all shelters I came across are asking and even less than most.

Another thing the people that have adopted from Diane know exactly what they are getting, what that pet's needs are, why they are there, do they need special attention, are they ill, etc.... and some of them still want these pets.

Who cares about the adoption application, so she is more flexible than most places, she is more concern about finding these pets home with good people. Maybe the answers she gets in these applications is all she needs to know to make up her mind as to who is deserving of one of these pets. A more complicated application does not necessarily mean pet will get a better home. On top probably many people will get rejected for stupid reasons. If you are committing to loving the pet and give him a good home what else does Diane need to know???

Stop being so judgmental and get your facts straight before you are choosing to destroy other' puppies possibilities of good homes because you are blinded by your lack of information. This is not about what you think is right, this is about what is right about the pets needing people and homes.

Some of these pets may not look good in a picture but think about where they were rescued from. They were not rescued from a Spa, they were most rescued from death row and abusive care-givers. It is common sense they are not looking their best, that is why pets need people to nurture and love them back to health. They wouldn't need rescuing if they were nothing wrong with most of them, would they?

Who do you think is right here? Those of you who know nothing about Diane nor her shelter and are going only on assumptions and unfounded at that or the people who have actually adopted pets from her over the years and not only once but twice some even 3, 4 times over the last years. Shouldn't their experience be proof enough that whatever she is been doing works. That whatever she is doing IS NOT FISHY. Why would people continue coming back?

Please stop being judgmental and making someone guilty without probable cause. The only ones you will hurt at the end is those pets needing people.

I have seen some Ads for supposedly rescued Yorkies asking for $300, $600 and even more. How different are they than petsneedingpeople.com
who's to say they're not the ones trying to make profit. How legit are they?..................

Before you are going to make a decision to report people all over the place make sure you hear and find out all the facts before sentencing someone. Join the Yahoo Group and hear from people who like myself have adopted from Diane, find out about the pets that were rescued and how they are doing. Check out the after pictures of these pets and then only then make a decision BASED ON FACTS AND NOT ASSUMPTIONS.

[ladyjane]

I reported it and stand by it. Up to Petfinder to investigate it. I was told by one online site that they removed her four years ago. I hardly think they are lying.
Don't know who you are....but I am sure I know who contacted her to start this silly stuff. You could be her for all I know.
I will not get into a discussion about rescues and your insinuations about them. I saw her website and her other ones and stand by what I have posted.

Case closed.

[yorkiesmiles]

I'm not choosing sides here. Just seeing the red flags - and added to that the fact that someone just happens to find YT today & posts their 1st post on this thread & just happened to adopt from this place this weekend. And such a long post at that. Seems almost odd to me. No offense, but it is just interesting .....

I'm sure others will have questions about this....

[YorkieShadow]

Originally Posted by Yesibv

Hello Everyone

I would like to say that alot of you here are being judgmental and pointing fingers on assumptions only. There is always 2 sides to a story. Do not judge a book by its cover. You may find out that you were actually wrong about this place and Diane.

Alot of you are making reports based on what exactly? Pics posted on a website? Have you had your own personal negative incident with this shelter or lady running it??? That you can back up your theory.

Be careful that because of your ignorance and lack of information you actually ruin the possibilities of so many pets finding loving homes in the future because you think you did something good.

I recently adopted 2 puppies from Diane and let me tell you I was so hesistant and undecided especially because they are out of state and the cost of shipping, etc... I was afraid it may have been a scam and that I wasn't educated enough to know. From so many shelters I found through petfinder.com that I had either called or emailed regarding a particular pet she was the one that replied right away, and let me tell you I emailed it like 10 times a day asking her all kind of questions and concerns. She was always honest and even referred me to a yahoo group of created by people who have adopted from her over the years and their stories, updates, concerns, etc.... She said I can join and ask any questions I want which I did and the outcome was more than I had expected. So many people shared their experience and feedback and it was all POSITIVE. Many of them have adopted pets from her more than once over the years because of how satisfied they were with what they got and seen. Some of them have even adopted more than one pet. Alot of these pets being adopted are already grown too. Not all pets are babies.

I was one of the person's who adopted from her this weekend in IL and let me tell you there were over 10 people there waiting for their adopted pets. Many of these pets were already grown, not all were babies, not all were perfect, some were even cats, big dogs, small dogs, puppies. EVERYTHING WAS DONE LEGIT.

Today, I am still waiting to hear from other shelters I had contacted who have not even bother answering an email nor returning a phone call. On top of that during my search for a pet (we wanted a rescued pet) before finding petsneedingpeople.com all rescue shelters I found in Illinois, IN and even WI their fees were just about the same as petsneedingpeople.com and in some of them even more, alot more. and these were shelters closer to me.

So the website may not be a non-profit org, maybe not yet, that does take alot of work but they are at least state licensed and that should count for something.

Some of the pics may not look their best but did you ever stop to think that when pets are being rescued from death row, puppy mills or wherever they come from they aren't exactly at the best time in their lives. Why sugar coated and make them look all nice and groomed just to appeal more people? These pets are being rescued from all kinds of neglect, reject and abuse and even death row they need someone to love them at their worst not at their best only. Who cares what they look like when they first arrive at the ranch, how about the positive outcome, of when they're placed in a loving home??? Isn't that what its all about? The fees of rescuing them are about the same fees all shelters I came across are asking and even less than most.

Another thing the people that have adopted from Diane know exactly what they are getting, what that pet's needs are, why they are there, do they need special attention, are they ill, etc.... and some of them still want these pets.

Who cares about the adoption application, so she is more flexible than most places, she is more concern about finding these pets home with good people. Maybe the answers she gets in these applications is all she needs to know to make up her mind as to who is deserving of one of these pets. A more complicated application does not necessarily mean pet will get a better home. On top probably many people will get rejected for stupid reasons. If you are committing to loving the pet and give him a good home what else does Diane need to know???

Stop being so judgmental and get your facts straight before you are choosing to destroy other' puppies possibilities of good homes because you are blinded by your lack of information. This is not about what you think is right, this is about what is right about the pets needing people and homes.

Some of these pets may not look good in a picture but think about where they were rescued from. They were not rescued from a Spa, they were most rescued from death row and abusive care-givers. It is common sense they are not looking their best, that is why pets need people to nurture and love them back to health. They wouldn't need rescuing if they were nothing wrong with most of them, would they?

Who do you think is right here? Those of you who know nothing about Diane nor her shelter and are going only on assumptions and unfounded at that or the people who have actually adopted pets from her over the years and not only once but twice some even 3, 4 times over the last years. Shouldn't their experience be proof enough that whatever she is been doing works. That whatever she is doing IS NOT FISHY. Why would people continue coming back?

Please stop being judgmental and making someone guilty without probable cause. The only ones you will hurt at the end is those pets needing people.

I have seen some Ads for supposedly rescued Yorkies asking for $300, $600 and even more. How different are they than petsneedingpeople.com
who's to say they're not the ones trying to make profit. How legit are they?..................

Before you are going to make a decision to report people all over the place make sure you hear and find out all the facts before sentencing someone. Join the Yahoo Group and hear from people who like myself have adopted from Diane, find out about the pets that were rescued and how they are doing. Check out the after pictures of these pets and then only then make a decision BASED ON FACTS AND NOT ASSUMPTIONS.

I dont know who you are or if you are even this person thats being tallked about. but I for one do not point fingers. same thing I had said in an above post. there are many here that do, and im sorry about that. but there are so many people here that look out for the other Yorkies/dogs and that is why they go investigate more. I know our shelter is owned by a family and they to take in many animals and they try their best to give these dogs another chance. even thou they dont do the same as other shelters they are great. its all about the animals. I dont know what our area would do with out them.me and my husband have took in over 300 animals in our lives and have found homes for all of them. we are not a rescue but would never turn away any animal in need. and no I have never charged a dime for these animals, but I did take the time to meet and screen these people to make sure that they could give these pets a great home. I hope this is not a mill like many our saying. maybe this lady can come on here and clear it all up. Not that she has to prove any thing or prove herself. but my self I would love to know this is not a mill and just another person hoping to help many homeless animals have a second chance.

[lovingnyla]

Are you people serious??????? You are going to ruine this poor lady and her rescue because you don't agree with how she runs it??? This is a major issue all over north america.....one rescue bashing another and guesse who suffers.....the animals. Excatly what kind of "investigating" was done? who are you people to jugde another because you run your rescue differenty then she does. As rescues and peolple who adopte rescue animals we all need to band together and stop all this crap. Tell me is the yorkie rescue willing to take on and care for and find homes for all the animals that might be taken away from this rescue because of your rediculous actions? I don't think so.....And what does it cost to adopt a yortie from the yorkie rescue? $600. to $300. Get a life and leave other rescues alone. Have any of you talked with any of the adopters from this rescue? I have.... and they are all extremly happy with the pets they adopted. I belong to both forums and the forum for petsneedingpeople is full of happy adopters, if anyone has questions or concerns the adopters support one another and valuable info is shared. they help anyone on the forum that needs help. We as rescuers have the responsibility to help other rescues, provide support and in these hard times when so many animals are being dumped, adandoned, negleted,adused,overbreed etc we all need to stand united as one whole rescue and stop judging others.

Oh and by the way I am NOT the lady who runs the rescue!!!!!

[RIPMyLittleCase]

I am new to this group and, like the other recent poster, am one of the adopters from Diane this past weekend. We could not be happier with our little YorkiePoo. He is the one that used to be on the site that was missing some toes. At least she was honest enough to address that fact from the very beginning.

My husband and I just lost our little Yorkie girl, Casey, to a collapsed trachea in January. That was one of the hardest decisions to make but we had to do what was best for her. That is what we feel we are doing for our little YorkiePoo, Teddy. He has gotten a clean bill of health from our vet who said that his missing toes are simply a birth defect and not something that happened to him at his former homes. Diane answered a ton of questions before we acquired our little guy.

Is Diane perfect? Probably not, but then neither are the rest of us. Is she helping those innocent little babies? Yes. Would I adopt from her again if the occasion arose? In a heartbeat! If she would have asked me for a vet reference, I would have gladly given it to her. Our vets know us as pet loving people and know that we take care of our babies.

[Nancy1999]

I have read that one of the latest scams is puppy mills running rescues, seems that they can get more money selling their dogs as a rescue than through pet store, or website. We has a similar thing come up a few months ago, and several people wanted to know if there was a way to tell if it was a legitimate rescue because if it's not, than no amount of people singing her praises will impress me. Now every time someone links to her site, from Yorkietalk, she is notified, and can link back to this thread, and have her many devoted fans, vouch for her.

[megansmomma]

Although the 3 newbies that have come to YT to profess how wonderful this Diane is I have no doubt that you believe wholeheartedly that you purchased from a legitimate rescue. For this I am sorry because I want to believe your intent is genuine. But unfortunalety, it states clearly on their website they are not a rescue. That they ship these dogs across the country in crates for an extra charge. That they make "special" deliveries to different states ie "We will be in Chicago on Feb 14th and for an additional $25 we deliver". These 2 things along disqualify them as being a rescue. Rescues NEVER advertise delivery service and meet me in a parking lot! Rescues come to your home, interview you, call your vet, call your references, make sure your home is safe and secure. This is all done on a volunteer basis. Legitimate rescues are nonprofit organizations with volunteers. The fees they charge are to try to cover medical needs of these dogs not to make a profit. This website clearly states that they are FOR PROFIT! Once again NOT A RESCUE! It also says that legitimate rescues do not agree with their "mission" to save dogs. Most of the people who come to this RESCUE forum of YT are either rescue volunteers or members looking to add a rescue pup to their family. So when there are red flags we feel that they should be pointed out and that is what has been done. To all of us, these are all red flags that suggest puppymill. You can believe whatever you would like about their practices as a rehoming service for puppymills because that is exactly what they really are. We here on this thread have questioned what is going on and all of the red flags. If after doing your homework you decided to "rescue" from this business then that is your choice. We are not saying that you as pet owners are bad but the practices that we have uncovered by Googling a few things within this website cause even more red flags.

I do think that this thread should be closed as it was not ever intended to become a debate about the questionable business practices of Nevermore whatever they call themselves.