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Old 09-28-2007, 06:06 PM   #1
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I am looking for a prong training collar for my Chi, Bella. She is 5 lbs and I can't find one that will fit right. They are all too big. I got one of those collars for my yorkie (10lbs...hes a big boy) and we call it his "good boy collar." My Chi pulls and pulls until she gags herself and her paws are raw. I really think the collar would do wonders for her. I have looked at every pet story in town and online for about an hour. I am also more then willing to purchase one that is used if anyone has it lying around! Thanks!
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I can't imagine using one of those on such small guys. I didn't even know they made them that small.
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Its not painful, its just pressure...and not like the pressure they talk about at the dentist. Next time you go to the store, put it on your arm and yank on it. The pressure is evenly distributed so it doesnt hurt. You can get plastic covers for the prongs and it still works the same. I was taught in a dog obedience class how to use them without harming the dog.
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Old 09-29-2007, 05:37 AM   #4
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I've never heard of them for small dogs. Maybe that's why you're having such a hard time finding them.
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Yorkies, because of the risk of collapsed trachea, should not even wear collars - at all. Your furkids should be wearing harnesses.
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they worked wonders on my lab. I've never needed to try them on Bella. I remember Bridget's 'baby' one was pretty small, I'm sure you'd have to remove a lot of the links tho, and that would defeat the purpose.
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Yorkies, because of the risk of collapsed trachea, should not even wear collars - at all. Your furkids should be wearing harnesses.
I agree!
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I am looking for a prong training collar for my Chi, Bella. She is 5 lbs and I can't find one that will fit right. They are all too big. I got one of those collars for my yorkie (10lbs...hes a big boy) and we call it his "good boy collar." My Chi pulls and pulls until she gags herself and her paws are raw. I really think the collar would do wonders for her. I have looked at every pet story in town and online for about an hour. I am also more then willing to purchase one that is used if anyone has it lying around! Thanks!
Have you already tried a harness? They have regular ones and the ones with the leash attachment in the front that trains them more like horse reins. Those help with the pulling problem with reverse pressure.
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Have you ever read anything about collapsed tracheas?

http://www.peteducation.com/article....&articleid=410

Neither one of your dogs should be wearing a collar. If your Chi pulls, please try one of the no pull harnesses.
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I was told that harnesses just encourage pulling behavior in the dog training class that I am taking. Harnesses are made for working dogs. A prong collar, when used properly, will not collapse trachea. A regular collar puts all of the pressure on the front of the throat when the dog pulls. A prong collar distributes the pressure without cutting off the air way. I know that they do not look very nice, but they really do work well. It is also for training only. As cute as harnesses are, they are not going to help the situation. She already has a harness and it does not work. They do make the collars. They are just hard to find. I finally found a website that sells them.

http://www.jjdog.com/Merchant2/merch...niPinchCollars

Please remember that I am going to be using the collar with a trainer and it is merely a tool.
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okay here is my two cents worth...don't ever be afraid to ask questions on YT...yes you will get some feed back that you will not like, but I am stating the facts that I know...

I use one on my German Shepherd and it works great, it doesn't hurt him at all, as a matter of fact when he was 6 months in training the vet recommend it...and now he is over a year and I hardly ever have to pull on it...they know and its a good training tool...now the flip side...

I have 4 yorkies also, where my GSD is professional and continuous in training, well lets say my yorkies are alot different and more stubborn than Max
Max tolls the line and knows who is boss, my yorkies know and try to be the boss...

with that all said, I wouldn't put one on them no matter what because of the collapsed tracheas, they are really very delicate and it could cause do some damage..I wouldn't have said this last month, but after Lexie had a C-section, and they put the tube down her throat she is having some problems still with her throat/trachea the vet said it would clear up in time, but I am wondering if it takes something like that to hurt it then the prong collar could too...
bottom line its your dogs, and you have to do whats best for them & people that don't have yorkies or really small dogs don't see the dangers that can happen...
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I disagree with the use of this kind of collar for ANY small dog, especially those breeds like the yorkie and chihuahuas that can have a high instance of a collapsed trachea. She really needs to be in a harness, and I too suggest you try one of the no-pull harnesses.

I know that you are planning to use the prong collar for training only, but I think that there are other ways and tools you can use to help to train your dog.

Milli likes to pull sometimes too, and instead of the regular harness, I got her a Puppia harness a couple weeks ago. This is a thicker and wider harness, and it's padded so it's very comfortable for her, yet gives me more control when walking her with this on. Since there is more surface area to the Puppia harness, she feels it more, and therefore reacts appropriately when I give a gentle tug on her leash to correct her when she's pulling or getting ahead of me.

I urge you to look into the possiblity of a Puppia or other type of no-pull harness rather than using a prong collar.
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A Gentle Leader harness works really well for toy dogs:

http://www.kk.org/cooltools/archives/001595.php
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I would not use any kind of collar on a yorkie. Even if the pressure is evenly distributed with the prong collar, it still puts pressure on the trachea. Collapsed trachea is very serious, and I personally would never "take a chance." Harnesses are so much safer for them.
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Gosh most people on here will tell you about not using a collar on a small dog especially a Yorkie but I would not even use a prong collar on a large dog as it causes neck problems down the road. I had fabulous success with the Halti (bottom link to Petsmart has xxs) to get one of my boys to learn to walk on the lead.

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