Dogfood - The yorkie food?

[KathyinCali]

Originally Posted by camly

thanks for the tip .. i just looked up avoderm, and it contains avocados ..... i heard from somewhere that avocados were bad for dogs anyone know?

I just read the same thing on one of the threads on this site within the last week. Curious to see what you find out...

[Dunkaroo]

I feel my Yorkie Canidae All Life Stages as well. He loves it! I used to give him Science Diet, but it didn't seem like he enjoyed it. When I switched to Canidae, he gained A LOT of weight... He loves it!

[camly]

Originally Posted by KathyinCali

I just read the same thing on one of the threads on this site within the last week. Curious to see what you find out...

I just found info on the avocado!!! EEK!!! it is bad for dogs, but I think its the plant but still .. no avocado for my puppy

http://www.bdnhumanesociety.com/householddangers.htm

"Avocado
The avocado is very dangerous to all animals – the fruit, leaves, stem, and pit are all considered toxic parts of the plant. The toxic substance in the Avocado is called persin, which is a fatty acid derivative. Although poisonous to both cats and dogs, this plant is particularly deadly to birds. This is also a proven poison to various other types of animals including: goats, sheep, horses, cattle, rabbits and even fish! Ingestion of the avocado plant can lead to cardiovascular problems, and often results in death. This plant is highly toxic, and in animals symptoms can range vomiting, diarrhea, respiratory distress, generalized congestion, fluid accumulation around the heart, and heart failure. The avocado is deadly and should not be fed to any pet under any circumstances."

I will post more info in the diet and food thread

[finhuang]

Originally Posted by camly

Where do you get this AVoderm? My guy has flaky skin, but only in his ear (this is due to a previous skin infection/fungus) ...

recently i've used missing link and its helped a lot too .. but this avoderm sounds interesting ....

You may go to the link below to find out more infos for Avoderm
http://www.breeders-choice.com/dog_p...avodermdog.htm

I bought Avoderm in Petsmart, but I know not every petsmart sells this brand.
You may also find a store which sells avoderm in their website.

[finhuang]

Originally Posted by camly

I ran into the same thing in taiwan ... over here we have eukanuba, RC, iams, nutro, purina, and that's all i can think of. but really bad food, nutro was the best we could find but it made my dog really itchy b/c of the corn. So you're prolly gonna laugh, but I buy dogfood while I'm in the states and bring it back with me to taiwan! LOL ... what I wouldn't do for my dog. haha. maybe a little much oh wellz.

I see solid gold is offered in the iceland, that's a good food brand from what i've heard. its on the website you reffered too. i foud RC on the site for you.

http://www.dogfoodanalysis.com/dog_f...ct=286&cat=all

Hi, Camly
I'm from Taiwan, too. Some people said Avocado is bad, but I don't know if that's true. How can they sell poison dog food in petsmart? I will ask my vet tomorrow and hear his opinion. By the way~~ I've heard solid gold dry food is very good for dry/flaky skin.

[camly]

Originally Posted by finhuang

Hi, Camly
I'm from Taiwan, too. Some people said Avocado is bad, but I don't know if that's true. How can they sell poison dog food in petsmart? I will ask my vet tomorrow and hear his opinion. By the way~~ I've heard solid gold dry food is very good for dry/flaky skin.

you're from TW!?! cool where abouts? i'm in hsinchu. but yes! I just found out that avocadoes are quite bad for animals ... but its controversial whether or not its just the plant or the fruit, or both. I actually posted a thread in the health/dite forum about the info I found about avocados.

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=85559

buuut i don't want to take chances so I am gonna stick to innova, its been good to us so far.

hey and since your from TW do you know where I can find these brands (solid gold and innova) of food here? I didn't know solid golld was good for skin problems .. i would be really interested in finding out if its available in tw.
It would be much easier to be able to buy it here rather than buying it in America and bringing it back with me on my trips. lol.

[finhuang]

Originally Posted by camly

you're from TW!?! cool where abouts? i'm in hsinchu. but yes! I just found out that avocadoes are quite bad for animals ... but its controversial whether or not its just the plant or the fruit, or both. I actually posted a thread in the health/dite forum about the info I found about avocados.

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=85559

buuut i don't want to take chances so I am gonna stick to innova, its been good to us so far.

hey and since your from TW do you know where I can find these brands (solid gold and innova) of food here? I didn't know solid golld was good for skin problems .. i would be really interested in finding out if its available in tw.
It would be much easier to be able to buy it here rather than buying it in America and bringing it back with me on my trips. lol.

I have no idea if they sell solid gold or innova in Taiwan. Even in US, they don't sell those 2 brands in petsmart and petsco. I've seen solid gold dog food in the organic supermarket called Wild Oats. I hope you guys have that in CA. Solid Golds famous product in TW is "Seameal Powder". I believe they sell it in yahoo.tw auction.

About that Avoderm dog food, I emailed to Avoderm company to ask them why they put avocados in dog food since it is bad for animals. Below is a email they reply me today. They explain that there're some many different kinds of avocados. The one they put in their dog food doesn't contain "persin" which is toxic.

A email from Avoderm company:

"Dear: Vivian

Thank you for taking a moment out of your day to contact us here at breeder's choice, please rest assured that our formulas are safe and have been very successful in providing optimal nutrition and excellent results. These articles are very misleading and the one you have forwarded is flat out in accurate, thank you for providing the link.

Breeder's Choice has manufactured AvoDerm for more than 25 years. Millions of pets have eaten our food worldwide over the years and we have never witnessed any negative reaction from the avocado in dogs or cats. Breeder's Choice is a company of integrity that would not produce or continue to produce a food that would cause harm.

The source of avocados in our AvoDerm foods is from California and is a safe fruit. Guatemalan avocados are not used in our foods due to the potential for persin toxicity.

Each AvoDerm formula includes avocado oil and meal. The avocado is full of vitamins A, C, D, E and B6. Avocados are also rich in potassium, niacin,
essential fatty acids and many other nutrients essential to good skin and coat
health. Avocados have zero cholesterol, very little sodium, and are high in
monounsaturated fats, the same kind found in olive oil.

We are well aware of the warnings circulating on the Internet and in the media, much of which is misleading especially as it applies to AvoDerm. We, at Breeder's Choice, are certainly willing to contact the sources supplying the information and discuss the safety of avocados in our pet foods.

The following is from Dr. Guy Witney, Director of Industry Affairs of the
California Avocado Commission:

"In spite of the very occasional and almost always indirect reports of avocado toxicity to dogs and cats there is a huge body of evidence to the contrary.

There are several pet food formulations containing avocado on the market and these are being fed to hundreds of thousands of dogs every day worldwide with no reported problems. Also, in California there are around 7,000 family farmers who grow avocados and almost every one has dogs that actively seek out fruit that has fallen from the trees to snack on. The happy, well-filled out and shiny-coated orchard dog is a familiar sight to anyone in this industry and we have NEVER had a report of a family orchard dog getting sick from eating avocados. Also, the US Forest Service and UC Santa Barbara are about to publish a paper on the importance of avocado orchards in California to sustaining carnivore populations (bears, coyotes, mountain lions, foxes and small cats) during drought conditions. All of these animals are known to eat the protein and nutrient rich fruit that has fallen from trees.

Now birds are a different creature and it IS known that avocados are toxic to birds. Avocado leaves are known to be toxic to horses. Avocado seeds (pits) are NOT edible and are toxic to animals."



After reading this email, I feel OK to keep feeding my dogs Avoderm. Avoderm truly changes my yorkie's skin from dry/flaky to normal skin. My yorkie has less scratchs since I feed him Avoderm. By the way~ I've heard that Eukanuba made a new dog food just for yorkshire terrier. I might buy a bag and try it. I have 2 yorkies and 3 toy poodles. I've tried so many different brands of dog food. Every brand has its pro and con. A brand of dog food is good for one dog doesn't mean it is good for the other dog. Finding your dog a proper food is very important, but it is not easy.

[slemp33]

has anyone heard of eukanuba? i heard about it from a friend and was wondering....the breeder i bought my gus from was feeding them iams puppy....i've heard negative things about it.....i'm VERY SUPER new to being a yorkie owner, so any advice would be awesome!!! thank you!

[katelin]

we're on Royal Canin too. Tried Canidae and mine won't eat it and my vet doesn't recommend it - something about not meeting certain requirements, but I really can't remember why.

[spanky's mom]

we're on Royal Canin Yorkshire Terrier He loves it and the Breeder started him on that Our Vet says its also good for him he hasn't had any skin problems and he has a nice coat.

[Lovely05]

Petco now sells Solid Gold and Wellness dog food at their stores and internet.

[Lovely05]

I feed my dog Canidae All Life Stages. He loves eating Canidae. He even cries for Canidae while I pour the dog food in his bowl. I might switch to Solid Gold beacause I can buy it at Petco. I have to drive a longer distance to buy Canidae.

[BamaFan121s]

One of mine couldn't eat the RC YT...gave them an upset stomach and runny stools. Mine actually get a mixture of 4 different commerical brands, home cooked food and supplements. But each dog is different and what works for one won't necessarily work for the next.

While dogfoodanalysis.com has alot of useful information, it is based completely on the opinions of the site editors, not long term, professional research. So don't let researching for a good food stop and end there. Another site to try is: Dog Food Review Ratings
It gives links to various sites that examine commerical foods, raw feeding, home cooking, etc.

[dlross]

Chelsea seen to like it, I had DaisiMae on Royal Canin, but changing it slowly, I don't like the ingredients in it.

PreciseSmall & Medium Breed Puppy Formula Dry Food Analysis:

Crude Protein (min) 29.00%; Crude Fat (min) 19.00%; Crude Fiber (max) 3.50%; Moisture (max) 10.00%; Calcium (min) 1.30%; Phosphorus (min) 1.00%; Omega-6 Fatty Acids (min) 3.59%*; Omega-3 Fatty Acids (min) 0.59%*; Ascorbic Acid (Vitamin C) (min) 25 mg/lb* (*Not recognized as an essential nutrient by the AAFCO Dog Food Nutrient Profile.)

Dry Food Ingredients:
Chicken Meal, Ground Brown Rice, Chicken Fat (preserved with Mixed Tocopherols and Ascorbyl Palmitate), Ground Oats, Beet Pulp, Lamb Meal, Rice Bran, Dried Egg Product, Fish Meal, Flaxseed, Natural Chicken Flavor, Lecithin, Fish Oil, Salt, Choline Chloride, Potassium Chloride, Calcium Ascorbate (source of Vitamin C), Calcium Carbonate, Iron Amino Acid Chelate, Yucca Schidigera Extract, Vitamin E Supplement, Zinc Amino Acid Chelate, Manganese Amino Acid Chelate, Cobalt Amino Acid Chelate, Copper Amino Acid Chelate, Biotin, Vitamin A Supplement, Calcium Pantothenate, Thiamine Mononitrate (B1), Vitamin B12 Supplement, Niacin, Menadione Sodium Bisulfite Complex (source of Vitamin K activity), Riboflavin Supplement, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Folic Acid, DL-Methionine, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (B6), Sodium Selenite, Calcium Iodate.

[mscat]

I feed Suzi an Organic dry kibble, By NATURE . It is high quality, and she eats it well. So far I have had no problems with her eating this food!