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Old 02-18-2008, 11:38 AM   #1
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Question Taking my baby to get shots. any help?

Im taking bindi to get shots on thurs. is there anything i need to look out for before i get there? what shots will she be getting? is it something that all pups get the same ones?? clueless here. just know shes due for em (this isnt her first set, i have her vac. records)
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Im taking bindi to get shots on thurs. is there anything i need to look out for before i get there? what shots will she be getting? is it something that all pups get the same ones?? clueless here. just know shes due for em (this isnt her first set, i have her vac. records)
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Different vets have different protocols.
Don't let them give the lepto vaccine unless it is a HUGE problem in your area. If they have to give it, have them give it separately. This vaccine has been known to kill Yorkies.
Corona vaccine isn't necessary in my opinion and can cause reactions.
It is best to space shots out, giving one each visit and waiting a week or two between them.
I don't like bordatella at all but most vets give it. Your dog could get pneumonia if she gets kennel cough which is a good reason to give the vaccine, besides it is very contagious. A good reason to not give the vaccine is your dog can get kennel cough from it. So it is a circle...
Rabies depends on your state law. I would hold off til 6 months if possible.
Giardia vaccine isn't necessary and Lyme's vaccine is rarely necessary and not too safe or effective.
The DHPP should be given three times 3-4 weeks apart. Some vets give it four which is really too many times. It should be started at 8-10 weeks.
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wow! thats a lot to take in! im going to have to go to the vet with notes! I'm going to question her on everything. I sure hope i dont seem like a pain in the butt. but I know you all know so much more than I do about yorkies and I dont want to leave something so important as vaccines to chance. do u think most vets know about the vacs. that can kill yorkies? im getting a bit worried now i wish one of u could come along w. me! hehe
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wow! thats a lot to take in! im going to have to go to the vet with notes! I'm going to question her on everything. I sure hope i dont seem like a pain in the butt. but I know you all know so much more than I do about yorkies and I dont want to leave something so important as vaccines to chance. do u think most vets know about the vacs. that can kill yorkies? im getting a bit worried now i wish one of u could come along w. me! hehe
LOL...I question Ellie's vet on everything too and I know she is good. I have to make sure everything is just right. She is always ready to answer questions for me.

You know, so many vets are pushy with the lepto vaccine. They don't think it is a big risk and give it out like candy. Mardelin, a breeder on YorkieTalk, has said that lepto can cause death.

Ellie had DHLPP-C and rabies all in one day (way too many) and she collapsed and went into shock. It was most likely the lepto. I don't know how big of a problem this disease is where you live but proceed cautiously. A dog is more likely to react to the lepto vaccine after the second or third time it is given rather than the first time. I would never consider giving to a dog under 16 weeks. It also only lasts for 6-9 months, so your dog would have to be vaccinated twice a year to have full protection and it doesn't protect against all strains. Then again it is a serious disease and can be passed to people (probably could be with the vaccine too though), so it is a hard call. After Ellie's experience, it is a big no for me.

It is very overwhelming.
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I agree with the previous post. I have 3 babies, the mom and dad go to a groomer so they get the bordatello and their baby, 4 months old, just got it because she will also start going to the groomer next month. My groomers are great, very clean, but you just never know what another dog might bring in. Luckily, none of them actually developed kennel cough when they got the vaccine. Because I had not found YT then, I gave both my male (3.5 lbs) and my female (6 lbs) both the lepto and lyme. Neither bothered my female, but the lepto made my little guy very sick and the lyme, given in his muscle hurt him so bad he could hardly walk for 3 days! They will never get them again!! Last week when Tootsie (the baby) went for her last puppy shots they again told me she should have both of them. I told them absolutely not. Even though I like my vets and they are very good to my babies they do have a tendancy to push those shots. They had me feeling guilty, but when I asked how many of either of those diseases they see during the year, they either couldn't or wouldn't answer. Leads me to believe, it must not be a very high number. Stick to your guns on those shots, most of our babies do NOT need them.
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Welcome and liek everyone said, I do not get mine the lepto. Also make sure you know where the injection is given so if there is a reaction (lump) you will know what it is from, I just had that happen to one of mine.
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About the bordatella vaccine: If your vet insists that your baby needs it, then YOU insist on the injected vaccine rather than the intranasal. The nasal one is the one that causes the most reaction. It gave my baby Luna bordatella
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thanks all. im making notes of all of the the advice to take w. me. since im saying "no" to a lot of things -
no to lepto, corona
bordatella only thru nose if necessary.

did i miss anything??

what will she be getting since a lot of the vacs are nixed.
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thanks all. im making notes of all of the the advice to take w. me. since im saying "no" to a lot of things -
no to lepto, corona
bordatella only thru nose if necessary.

did i miss anything??

what will she be getting since a lot of the vacs are nixed.
LunasMom was saying only get the bordatella injected. Don't get the intranasal. I don't have any experience with this vaccine.

Since I think Yorkies should only get one vaccine as a time, you pup should only get either bordatella OR DHPP (distemper, hepatitis, parvo, parainfluenza) combo. I think the DHPP vaccine can also be abbreviated DA2PP. They will probably try to give DHPP and bordatella at the same time but I think it's too much. If you HAVE to give lepto then I would do that at a separate appointment altogether.
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Everything that everyone has posted is great!

Franklin got the Lepto vaccine and he did okay with it. Since then, I've done more research and decided that next time, we'll go without it because most of the time, reactions don't occur until the 2nd or 3rd time around. The vaccine only covers a couple of the MANY strands of Lepto, so it's virtually ineffective. Like others have said, it's been known to cause lots of reactions, including death in Yorkies so I personally feel like the risks outweigh the benefits. However, if Lepto is a problem in your area, most vets will strongly urge you do it. There are some YTers who were in this situation (chachi, I think) and her babies did well on it.

He also had Bordetella intra-nasally and did okay with that.

Another thing to look out for is AFTER the vaccinations. It's normal for a puppy to be tired and want to sleep, but if they throw up or seem unusually tired, they are probably having an adverse reaction. Other signs of reactions can be swollen face and eyes and itchiness. If you notice any of these things, call your vet. Most reactions can be treated with Children's Benadryl (your vet should tell you how much to give) or an injection. It's important to catch early on, though. Just keep an eye on her and give her lots of love.
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LunasMom was saying only get the bordatella injected. Don't get the intranasal. I don't have any experience with this vaccine.

Since I think Yorkies should only get one vaccine as a time, you pup should only get either bordatella OR DHPP (distemper, hepatitis, parvo, parainfluenza) combo. I think the DHPP vaccine can also be abbreviated DA2PP. They will probably try to give DHPP and bordatella at the same time but I think it's too much. If you HAVE to give lepto then I would do that at a separate appointment altogether.

YES! Thank you I was just coming back to say that I love the name you've chosen, how cute! I'm glad EllieMay caught that. Injected only!
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Franklin had Bordetella and Rabies (as well as DHPP and Lepto) done all on the same day and he was fine. Others have also done fine with that many, but I think it's best to space them out on different days if you can. The concern is that each vaccine requires a different response from the immunity system and that can be hard on their little bodies.
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Thanks everyone! and especially for the correction i made sure to change it on my notepad.

Thanks LunasMom for the compliment i named her Bindi bc shes lil and pretty just like a bindi

so this is what i have in notes that im taking w. me.

No Lepto! (if a must, make a sep. appt for this alone)
No Corona! - causes reactions
Bordatella only injected/ OR DHPP/DA2PP
get one vaccine at a time
no bordatella and DHPP at same time...


any suggestions on how can get what i want out of this appt. without seeming like an uptight know it all?? just want my baby safe!

Thanks again everyone for all ur help! its greatly appreciated!
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Thanks everyone! and especially for the correction i made sure to change it on my notepad.

Thanks LunasMom for the compliment i named her Bindi bc shes lil and pretty just like a bindi

so this is what i have in notes that im taking w. me.

No Lepto! (if a must, make a sep. appt for this alone)
No Corona! - causes reactions
Bordatella only injected/ OR DHPP/DA2PP
get one vaccine at a time
no bordatella and DHPP at same time...


any suggestions on how can get what i want out of this appt. without seeming like an uptight know it all?? just want my baby safe!

Thanks again everyone for all ur help! its greatly appreciated!


Correct!
But especially when you say you don't want DHPP and bordatella in one day, the vet might give you a hard time because it is very common to do them all at once. Use your own judgment. If you think your dog can handle it then that is up to you... I would just never give the lepto and rabies with other vaccines in Yorkies after what happened to Ellie...

It is so important to have a good relationship with your vet. You just want what's best for Bindi. If they make you feel funny about asking questions, find a new one.
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