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04-12-2013, 10:15 AM | #1 |
Action Jackson ♥ Donating Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Maryland
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| Using Meds for Storms Does anyone use meds for storm-fearing dogs? Jackson is 4 1/2 now and has gotten progressively worse during thunderstorms. Rain, loud wind, etc, does NOT bother him, but thunder DOES. This morning, we had a little bit of thunder, not super loud, and ended within 10 mins, but he immediately jumped off the bed, began pacing, scratching at my gate, trying to get away. He used to just be okay with going under my bed for the duration of the storm. And last season, we had so many. He paces and he pants. I just want to be prepared since thunderstorms are right around the corner and I hate to see such a usually confident dog become so fearful. Believe me when I say I've tried de-sensitizing (he won't eat when he's that frightened, so rarely I may be able to get a bit of cheese for him, but it doesn't matter, he's still terrified), Thundershirt did nothing. I am certainly not opposed to trying prescribed medicine from the vet if I know that a storm is coming. It would make his life so much easier and mine. He is going to the vet on Monday for a dental cleaning and I may ask then. I just was curious if any of you had any experience with these meds and what they take, how it works, etc.
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04-12-2013, 10:25 AM | #2 |
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| Did you put the Thundershirt on him more than once and during non-storm periods? I just posted a thread about how a Thundershirt has worked with mine, lol. See 'I'm soooo confused...' My Mom used meds for her dog (not a Yorkie). She said it was critical to give the meds 30 minutes before the storm hits, or it didn't work as well or at all. Hard to do with the pop up storms we get. And with some storms not lasting long, seems like medicating for no good reason. Like you think a big one is coming and it turns into a shower and here your dog is under meds. Mom also tried every med available, even the holistic ones, none ever worked to her satisfaction. (Hyper Border collie mix)
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04-12-2013, 11:58 AM | #3 |
And Rylee Finnegan Donating Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Metro Detroit, MI
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| My furkids are fine with storms. Ry does have a similar reaction to car rides although it has gotten better. We used Ace for away. It wirked somewhat. Then we put him on Prozac because he is anxious all the time (chewing carpet, etc.). That seems to work just as well in the car but obv it is for ling term use. If you use Ace it does need to be giving about an hour before. I would not hesitate assuming his organs are happy.
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04-12-2013, 12:26 PM | #4 |
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| I have used Ace Pro when I know it is going to be a long night. I used it for Hurricane Ike. I have three pups who just go wacky during storms. If they are short lived storms, it is not so difficult to deal with, but all night is awful. The only drawback is that they may have a diminished response and still be stressed...my vet recommends using something with it..but for the life of me right now I cannot think of what. I will have to ask her next time I speak with her.
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04-12-2013, 12:29 PM | #5 |
Donating YT 30K Club Member | Pixie is terrified of rain and thunder. I had been having success with the thunder shirt and some natural calming medicine from my vet. Now with all the rain we have been having and some thunder Pixie is a mess. I have been up for 2 nights with her. She gets so frantic and stays that way so long I am afraid she is going to have a heart attack. Originally, the vet said she didn't like to sedate them especially since she is only 4 lbs. But I am going to talk to her again because it is so hard on both of us. I'm not sure what she would give her but let me know if you get something that works for Jackson. I'll let you know if I find anything that works as well.
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04-12-2013, 02:18 PM | #6 |
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| Storms I know what you mean, it is horrible to see a pet frantic from storms or noises. My boy is scared of fireworks too and nothing including the Thundershirt works for him. What I did last time we had fireworks was to keep him on my lap in a room with the TV on very loud, and that seemed to do the trick. I do not like the idea of meds, but there may be no choice for some dogs. |
04-12-2013, 04:40 PM | #7 |
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| After the hawk attack when Cali was having frequent anxiety issues I used Xanax. She was still able to walk, eat and function well when you get the dose right. The other thing I like about it is that it works quickly so you can use it when the occasion calls for it and it works in about 15 to 30 minutes. I use either the liquid or a pill in cheese. The liquid seems to work the fastest, but the pill is good too. I can tell you more about dosing if you are interested.
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04-12-2013, 05:25 PM | #8 |
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| Ace pro? I have never heard of this but am interested in using it. What is the active ingredient and does it have any side effects? Is it OTC or prescription from vet? Thank you. |
04-12-2013, 05:33 PM | #9 |
And Rylee Finnegan Donating Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Metro Detroit, MI
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| It is Acepromazine. Prescription sedation. They can function while taking it.
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04-12-2013, 05:44 PM | #10 |
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| Storms Thank you, I will look into it. :-)) |
04-12-2013, 06:13 PM | #11 |
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| Ace is a dopamine blocker. Xanax works with GABA receptors. The two are quite different. Ace suppresses behavior, while Xanax slows the brain down generally while allowing more motor function. With anxiety the brain is going a mile a minute and by causing it to slow down rather than impairing movement. Both work and effects are very dose related but they work very differently in the brain. I like Xanax because it is more scary when you are already anxious to have a lack of positive or negative physiological feedback and decreased motor function. The "slowing down" process of xanaxx is generally more peaceful. Of course, with both you have to get the dose correct for the dog. My experience alsomisnthat Xanax acts more quickly than ace, unless you really snow them with ace. OK probably more than you wanted to know......... Sorry.........
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04-12-2013, 06:15 PM | #12 |
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| Oh ya, both are prescription and everything has side effects, even jelly beans
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04-12-2013, 06:31 PM | #13 |
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| Pharma Thank you for the lowdown on the two types of drugs, very helpful. I will lay off the jelly beams though. LOL! Having had Xanax myself, it is a great drug but I do not like the side effects. The dose for a tiny dog must be very small. Glad I do not live in a high thunderstorm part of the US and so the issue does not arise too often. Also it is hard in SoCal to predict thunderstorm activity and thus pre medicate. |
04-12-2013, 06:36 PM | #14 | |
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04-12-2013, 06:37 PM | #15 |
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| Dose for about a 4# pup would be about 0.1 to 0.2 ml of the liquid. That is a pretty tiny dose.
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