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07-29-2012, 02:29 PM | #31 |
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| No problem. I'm all for safer treatments but need proof. The "Standard" treatments of giving same doses to Great Danes and Yorkies doesn't fit well with me. Need to be weight limits imo |
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07-29-2012, 03:28 PM | #32 |
And Rylee Finnegan Donating Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Metro Detroit, MI
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| I'm not sure exactly what is meant by using ACV instead. I do know that if it is a replacement for the parvo vaccine, there could be horrible consequences. This is not standard of care, is not supported by most vets, and is not scientifically proven. It seems to be based on anecdotal evidence which should be extensively questioned. Even if we are talking about doing one year boosters and then using ACV in lieu of yearly vaccines, I'm not sure what the point would be. Dogs can get parvo even if vaccinated, but that is not common, So I trust that the vaccines that my dogs have received are protective and there are no further steps I need to take to stop them from getting the disease. And no, I don't vaccinate yearly...nor do I trust breeder given vaccines for many reasons. And it is commonly transmitted from feces to mouth. ACv on the skin could not prevent this.
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07-29-2012, 03:34 PM | #33 |
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| That why I said you need to trust the Breeder. It's simple to give shots. You can get simple training. Ppl give themselves shots all the time.= Diabetes, antibiotics ect. Not hard. You just need to know and trust that the breeder is doing this. There's alot of good breeders but the not as many as the bad. JME |
07-29-2012, 03:49 PM | #34 | |
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07-29-2012, 03:57 PM | #35 | |
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07-29-2012, 04:10 PM | #36 | |
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I would sooner overvaccinate unless maybe I could get the brand, the supplier, the temp ept at/shipped at, the exam findings right before the vaccine, a statement from the vet that breeder knew exactly what they were doing, etc. And I'd still really hesitate. I'd ask breeder not to do this and instead take pup to a vet.
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07-29-2012, 04:33 PM | #37 |
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| Nope I also givr ACV in their water. No parvo boosters given here, none of dogs were with me prior to their pups shots so they all got the initial parco vac. I do give ACV instead of boosters, like I said we only do the rabies vac once every three years as it is mandatory. Confessiona of a vaccine junkie is an excellent read, to each their own make informed descisions weighing your risks. Wish there was more research. My first pup was vacinated and later in veterinary ICU and atill died of parvo.
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07-29-2012, 04:39 PM | #38 |
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| I'm not saying anything against the innitial pups shots, I've necer had experience making or thinking about that descision. I would want a vet who follows the Dodd schedule at least after reading about it on YT
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07-29-2012, 04:55 PM | #39 |
And Rylee Finnegan Donating Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Metro Detroit, MI
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| To each their own. ?giving one vaccine is not necesarily protective. And not doing vaccines passed about six months of age is also not necessarily protecive. Some brands are not trustworthy. Last I knew Dodds recommended nosodes for heartworm preventation and has some other opinions that are questionable. Again, to each their own. I personally don't follow her persay..but even she does not recommend just puppy vaccines as far as I know.
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07-29-2012, 05:12 PM | #40 | |
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07-29-2012, 06:31 PM | #41 | |
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07-30-2012, 05:38 AM | #42 |
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| Thank you all for the info and the links. Going to shop around for a new Vet.
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07-30-2012, 07:09 AM | #43 |
And Rylee Finnegan Donating Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Metro Detroit, MI
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| Some breeders do put a lot into their dogs. There is no question about that. Sticker or no sticker, it does not supply all the information I would want. And it also means the probability of missed exams is high. I just do not believe this is an area where a breeder should try to cut costs even if that means passing the cost to the buyer. There are many variables with vaccines and i would want a vet firectly overseeing the process. ------------------------ As for DoddsI'm not saying that I disagree with her protocol or that I agree with it. I'm saying she holds enugh beliefs that are questionable that what she says on any topic I will extensively question. I don't care what other oeople do for their dogs. But since there are opinions in this thread about vaccinations that I find very concerning, I am posting the other way to look at things.
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07-30-2012, 09:05 AM | #44 | |
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07-30-2012, 02:04 PM | #45 |
And Rylee Finnegan Donating Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Metro Detroit, MI
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| i would not vaccinate yearly. Actually, my yorkie has not been vaxed for DHP in several years. My dog did have a severe reaction to a vaccine and I do soetimes see reactions when spending time at veterinary hospitals. Breeders really should have inj benadryl and steoids on hand which I doubt most do. I no longer do titers because of. the discrepancy of humoral vs cellular immunity and what shows with testing. They were a waste of money for us.
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