Bordatella Vaccination...shot or nose drops?

[Nancy1999]

Originally Posted by 107barney

In the 10 years I've had intranasal done to Barney and Daisy, I've never had an adverse reaction or nasal problem. Barney has reverse sneezing and even he tolerates the intranasal well.

There are less reactions to the intranasal, no pain of a shot, and it offers protection faster than the injection.

Here is an article on the topic that sums it up.
Kennel Cough (Infectious Tracheobronchitis) in Dogs

Thanks for the link. Yesterday I was looking for more information and found this site: Nasal or Injectable - Which Vaccine is Best for Your Dog? - Page 1

A new study indicates that intranasal should only be given the first time.

Recent studies have questioned the effectiveness of the intranasal vaccine, especially when given to dogs that have either been previously vaccinated or have been exposed to bordetella. This recent study indicates that the nasal vaccine works well in a dog that has either never been vaccinated or has not had kennel cough. Future vaccinations should be injectable to provide protection.

Another disadvantage is there may be some side effects following the nasal vaccine. Sneezing, mild cough and fever may develop 1 to 2 days following vaccination and usually resolves in 3 to 4 days. Some dogs do not like having drops placed in their nose and will strongly resist.

Recommendations

Due to the recently published study comparing injectable and nasal vaccines, it is currently recommended that the injectable vaccine be given. If desired, the nasal vaccine can be given the first time, followed by the injectable vaccine for future boosters. For all vaccines, it is important to vaccinate at least 5 days before potential exposure. Vaccines do not work immediately. It takes time for the body to respond to the vaccine, develop immunity and provide protection against the specific disease.

I really wished I understood the need for boosters because this seems to be where we overdo things.

[sugarmamma]

Sugar has had both the injectable and the intranasal.

When she first came to live with me my vet chose to give her the shot. As she was injecting she said"this one hurts!". Sugar cried and cried and cried . The vet got her an ice pack. She continued to cry out whenever I would accidentally touch that spot over the next 4 days!!
She now only gets the intranasal!!

[susan lynn]

My 4 have had the shots and the nasal with no problems. I found out that the guidelines have changed so they recommend you have this vaccine every six months. This is what I was told when I scheduled my dogs to be groomed.

[Nancy1999]

Originally Posted by sugarmamma

Sugar has had both the injectable and the intranasal.

When she first came to live with me my vet chose to give her the shot. As she was injecting she said"this one hurts!". Sugar cried and cried and cried . The vet got her an ice pack. She continued to cry out whenever I would accidentally touch that spot over the next 4 days!!
She now only gets the intranasal!!

Yeah, but the newest study seems to suggest that intranasal doesn't provide protection if you've had the injectable. I'm not sure if I want either for Joey next time.

[107barney]

Originally Posted by Nancy1999

Yeah, but the newest study seems to suggest that intranasal doesn't provide protection if you've had the injectable. I'm not sure if I want either for Joey next time.

Nancy your last sentence brings up another issue and is exactly where I am on this vaccine these days. Barney has had kennel cough twice because neither the intranasal nor the injectable will cover all strains. He got KC twice just from a walk through Petsmart! He went on an antibiotic and had rest, just like we would with an upper respiratory infection. I do not have my dogs groomed and the bordatella is not req'd for our obedience school so I no longer give it at all. The disease is self limiting, just as the common cold is in humans. By the way, Daisy did not catch Barney's KC despite the fact they were together 24/7 during his illness both times.

So I now say NO to bordatella overall, but I would still opt for the intranasal if I were giving it and that was the recommendation of my AHHA certified vet at the time Teddy had it for early puppy classes (at my option and not as required).

[Nancy1999]

Originally Posted by 107barney

Nancy your last sentence brings up another issue and is exactly where I am on this vaccine these days. Barney has had kennel cough twice because neither the intranasal nor the injectable will cover all strains. He got KC twice just from a walk through Petsmart! He went on an antibiotic and had rest, just like we would with an upper respiratory infection. I do not have my dogs groomed and the bordatella is not req'd for our obedience school so I no longer give it at all. The disease is self limiting, just as the common cold is in humans. By the way, Daisy did not catch Barney's KC despite the fact they were together 24/7 during his illness both times.

So I now say NO to bordatella overall, but I would still opt for the intranasal if I were giving it and that was the recommendation of my AHHA certified vet at the time Teddy had it for early puppy classes (at my option and not as required).

Joey’s vet said something about its required if they are to be hospitalized, and you don't want to give them it to them, if they are already sick with something else. So, we did the intranasal, but I felt like it was more to fill a box, than to help Joey. This year we're doing titers, but the more I read about them, the less confidence I have, and I don’t even know if they test for bordatella.

[107barney]

Originally Posted by Nancy1999

Joey’s vet said something about its required if they are to be hospitalized, and you don't want to give them it to them, if they are already sick with something else. So, we did the intranasal, but I felt like it was more to fill a box, than to help Joey. This year we're doing titers, but the more I read about them, the less confidence I have, and I don’t even know if they test for bordatella.

Our vets have not required it if they are hospitalized. I've had mine in for surgeries and day stays for tests at both my general vet and two major specialty hospitals and no one even asks. I am going to be doing titers too, but only for core vaccines and only for Teddy. I know what you mean about titers although my vet seems to have confidence in the process so I'll just defer to her on it.

[Nancy1999]

Originally Posted by 107barney

Our vets have not required it if they are hospitalized. I've had mine in for surgeries and day stays for tests at both my general vet and two major specialty hospitals and no one even asks. I am going to be doing titers too, but only for core vaccines and only for Teddy. I know what you mean about titers although my vet seems to have confidence in the process so I'll just defer to her on it.

I guess they can show low, when it's really not low. Some people seem to be saying forget the titers, and just do the shots every three years. Other people I respect say, no shots after 7. Here's a couple of interesting threads about titers. http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yor...-negative.html

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yor...ers-tests.html

[Maximo]

Originally Posted by 107barney

Our vets have not required it if they are hospitalized. I've had mine in for surgeries and day stays for tests at both my general vet and two major specialty hospitals and no one even asks. I am going to be doing titers too, but only for core vaccines and only for Teddy. I know what you mean about titers although my vet seems to have confidence in the process so I'll just defer to her on it.

Same here.

Although our vet's office promotes annual vaccines, when I brought up the issue, our doctor immediately agreed to doing the 3-year plan for my boys and he did not recommend bordetella for them.

[Ellie May]

I think a lot of it is a matter of opinion. Here the intranasal only is offered (that's what I've seen anyway). Vaguely remember it had to do with something about the reaction rate. Ellie's vet does not push too hard for this vaccine to be given. I settle the debate by not giving either. lol.

Ellie has never had kennel cough and has never been vaccinated for it. She rarely walks in pet store and doesn't go to a groomer. She was going to outside dog events and walking on the grass for awhile and never picked it up. Her old vet office required it, but waived because of her reaction issues. Now usually the only offices she goes to are offices where her regular vet is working and she lets me do whatever on the vaccine front. New office doesn't require it for hospitalization. They are careful with infection control though. Exam rooms get closed to dogs or cats if certain diseases are suspected. Sick animals taht go to the back are taken to isolation. She hangs out with me there and we have never had a problem. She hasn't been vaccinated for parvo or distemper in quite some time (distemper titer is low). I'm around yucky dog diseases all the time and that has never been an issue either.

I stopped doing titers awhile back. It was a waste of money for us.

[KazzyK810]

I don't do either, as this is not a vaccine that ZoE has. While her vet highly recommended Lepto for her, he didn't push this one at all, it was just offered as an option.

[Princes mom]

Wow!! Thank you, yt, for all of the info. The articles were very interesting. I don't have a choice, since Ian's appointment is tomorrow, so he'll be getting an injection. (I hate for him to have to get a shot!) Hopefully all will go well.

[Princes mom]

We got back from the vet about an hour ago, and everything actually went great. Ian got the shot, and his little treat, and so far he is acting very normal. His vet said that the shot is good for 6 months, as is the nasl drops. The vet said that some vets give bordatella once a year, but apparently that is not the majority. Most give every 6 months because if you want to board, bring to day care or bring to a groomer, they require it every 6 months.
I'm glad it's over! I have five months to worry about rabies and the other core vaccinations.

[yoshimax]

Mine are also done with the nasal spray. They seem to be fine. We only do it once a year though. I was not told it is only good for 6 months.