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Old 09-09-2010, 09:57 PM   #1
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Animal Smiley 019 Buying a Puppy with Underbite?

I have had a deposit on a puppy for several months and today I learned the puppy has a "slight" underbite developing at 6 weeks old. (No offense to those sweet dears with underbites, but I do not care for the look of a protruding jaw if I have the choice.. ) ...::huggles:...

I am concerned because, we cannot determine how bad it will be..and know it could require more maintenance and dental work etc. I feel like I am paying top dollar not getting a high quality pet...

Would you buy a pup with an underbite that cannot be bred or shown and will have a Limited Registration...??

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I have a baby with a slight overbite. (no offense taken..LOL) a dear friend has a rat terrier with an underbite, makes him look always angry. But he is a sweetheart. Bottom line is, it does not seem to affect his health or overall dental hygiene in anyway, but darned if I'd pay top dollar for a baby with that obvious a defect, no way. This is the lowest pet quality you could get and should be sold as such. If you haven't taken this animal into your home and grown to love it yet, and if the breeder refuses to re-negotiate the price, I'd call it a breech of contract as you were not buying low pet quality, ask for a refund on your deposit and look elsewhere.
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Thank you for the feedback nana.. I appreciate it.

That was our feeling as well. We have not accepted the puppy yet. The deposit was really for a show/breed quality pup.. and this sweet little gal does not qualify, which dropped her to a pet quality.

We could have accepted that as we've recently adopted a 4 month old girl yorkie mix, and are now looking for a companion pup to join our family, but if we are paying for this pet in a mid-high dollar range ($1500-$2000) we should get one without obvious defects...right?

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Thank you for the feedback nana.. I appreciate it.

That was our feeling as well. We have not accepted the puppy yet. The deposit was really for a show/breed quality pup.. and this sweet little gal does not qualify, which dropped her to a pet quality.

We could have accepted that as we've recently adopted a 4 month old girl yorkie mix, and are now looking for a companion pup to join our family, but if we are paying for this pet in a mid-high dollar range ($1500-$2000) we should get one without obvious defects...right?

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Why do you want a show/breed quality pup? Are you planning on showing or breeding?
Also the breeder can't tell whether a puppy is really going to turn out to be show quality.

Maybe if you could tell us who the breeder is we could advise better.

Reputable breeders will sell their pups on Limited registration when selling as a pet.
If you are buying a show/breed quality you will pay much more.
Beamer cost me over $1000 too, and he is a beautiful pet.
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Why do you want a show/breed quality pup? Are you planning on showing or breeding?
Also the breeder can't tell whether a puppy is really going to turn out to be show quality.

Maybe if you could tell us who the breeder is we could advise better.

Reputable breeders will sell their pups on Limited registration when selling as a pet.
If you are buying a show/breed quality you will pay much more.
Beamer cost me over $1000 too, and he is a beautiful pet.
I agree, a good reputable breeder would never sell a pup with unlimited registration to someone they didn't know VERY well, if at all.

Also, there's no way to tell whether a pup will be show quality until it's several months old. I would have a serious problem with any breeder who made such a claim on a puppy only weeks old. I know this didn't address your original questions but your breeder is raising several alarms for me. I'd encourage you to get your deposit back and start researching for a good breeder.

ETA: I forgot to ask if you intend to breed? Have you ever bred before? Please consider finding a mentor before selecting pups to breed.
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I believe you should support the best breeders who will sell you a pet! It's not just about the dog you are recieving, you are putting your stamp of approval on this breeders breeding program. Did the breeder tell you about the underbite, or was this something that you discovered? Many breeders wouldn't even know if the dog had an underbite, or be honest with their clients, so it's good if she informed you of this. From my understanding an underbite causes no problems, and some even correct themselves. However, if you are interested in breeding, I've heard that a dog with a bad bite should not be used. The price you mentioned is in the range of accepted prices by breeders who are actively showing their dogs, and is good for a pet quality yorkie. Remember that even good breeders have dogs that are not perfect examples of the breed, and that's where all we pet owners come in, but by supporting good breeders, you are supporting the future of the Yorkshire Terrier.
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I believe you should support the best breeders who will sell you a pet! It's not just about the dog you are recieving, you are putting your stamp of approval on this breeders breeding program. Did the breeder tell you about the underbite, or was this something that you discovered? Many breeders wouldn't even know if the dog had an underbite, or be honest with their clients, so it's good if she informed you of this. From my understanding an underbite causes no problems, and some even correct themselves. However, if you are interested in breeding, I've heard that a dog with a bad bite should not be used. The price you mentioned is in the range of accepted prices by breeders who are actively showing their dogs, and is good for a pet quality yorkie. Remember that even good breeders have dogs that are not perfect examples of the breed, and that's where all we pet owners come in, but by supporting good breeders, you are supporting the future of the Yorkshire Terrier.
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I agree, a good reputable breeder would never sell a pup with unlimited registration to someone they didn't know VERY well, if at all.

Also, there's no way to tell whether a pup will be show quality until it's several months old. I would have a serious problem with any breeder who made such a claim on a puppy only weeks old. I know this didn't address your original questions but your breeder is raising several alarms for me. I'd encourage you to get your deposit back and start researching for a good breeder.
I'm confused on why you are alarmed; the breeder is selling on limited registration. I didn't not get the idea that the breeder had promised a show quality pet, but I think this is just what some pet owners assume if they are going to a show breeder. I agree with you, that a breeder should not sell on unlimited registration.
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I'm confused on why you are alarmed; the breeder is selling on limited registration. I didn't not get the idea that the breeder had promised a show quality pet, but I think this is just what some pet owners assume if they are going to a show breeder. I agree with you, that a breeder should not sell on unlimited registration.
I apologize! I misread the original post. I read the OP's words as if she had been promised show quality, and did intend to breed &/or show. Thank you for correcting me Nancy. I'm sorry!
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Thank you all for yuor guidance.

When we were looking at this breeder, orignially we were interested in a good quality yorkie that , if we chose to, we could show. We were not so much interested in breeding but had begun to explore that idea.. albeit it was short lived.

The agreement was for a show/breed quality pup... at a set price.. or a pet quality pup at a set price. I chose the show/breed quality option as we thought this would insure a better quality dog. We were simply trying to choose the right option to get a good quality puppy..

The breeder has been honest and helpful and did share the vet said the pup we'd chosen (we had first pick.. and unfortuantely our puppy had this defect) had an underbite when she took them in for their 6 week check up... she siad because of this the pup would get a limitied registration rather than a full registraton and the pet price...

So we are trying to do the right thing and choose our puppy thoughtfully and respectfully.. while still feeling we should be able to have a pet quality pup not because of a defect, but because we arent going to show/breed her.. make sense?
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Thank you all for yuor guidance.

When we were looking at this breeder, orignially we were interested in a good quality yorkie that , if we chose to, we could show. We were not so much interested in breeding but had begun to explore that idea.. albeit it was short lived.

The agreement was for a show/breed quality pup... at a set price.. or a pet quality pup at a set price. I chose the show/breed quality option as we thought this would insure a better quality dog. We were simply trying to choose the right option to get a good quality puppy..

The breeder has been honest and helpful and did share the vet said the pup we'd chosen (we had first pick.. and unfortuantely our puppy had this defect) had an underbite when she took them in for their 6 week check up... she siad because of this the pup would get a limitied registration rather than a full registraton and the pet price...

So we are trying to do the right thing and choose our puppy thoughtfully and respectfully.. while still feeling we should be able to have a pet quality pup not because of a defect, but because we arent going to show/breed her.. make sense?
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http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yor...underbite.html

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/gen...underbite.html
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I apologize! I misread the original post. I read the OP's words as if she had been promised show quality, and did intend to breed &/or show. Thank you for correcting me Nancy. I'm sorry!
I'm confused too, too much cleaning!
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Thank you all for yuor guidance.

When we were looking at this breeder, orignially we were interested in a good quality yorkie that , if we chose to, we could show. We were not so much interested in breeding but had begun to explore that idea.. albeit it was short lived.

The agreement was for a show/breed quality pup... at a set price.. or a pet quality pup at a set price. I chose the show/breed quality option as we thought this would insure a better quality dog. We were simply trying to choose the right option to get a good quality puppy..

The breeder has been honest and helpful and did share the vet said the pup we'd chosen (we had first pick.. and unfortuantely our puppy had this defect) had an underbite when she took them in for their 6 week check up... she siad because of this the pup would get a limitied registration rather than a full registraton and the pet price...

So we are trying to do the right thing and choose our puppy thoughtfully and respectfully.. while still feeling we should be able to have a pet quality pup not because of a defect, but because we arent going to show/breed her.. make sense?
I haven't talked to knowledgeable breeders about this, but "first pick" is a little tricky isn't it? What are you looking for? I mean, some people are interested in size, but the runt of the litter, can grow to be the biggest dog. Like Bonbon said, you really don't know show quality until a dog is much older around 8-10 months. Some breeders are so good that nearly every dog they produce turn out to be excellent examples of the breed, but if this is really important, it might be best to buy an older dog. Only people who are choosing to breed need to be overly picky about the looks of the dog, for pet owners, you dog just turns into a family member, full of imperfections, so finding a breeder who does health testing and knows her lines thoroughly is so important because down the line, health will be the only thing that concerns you. Depending on where you live, $2000 is not unreasonable for a "pet" quality yorkie with limited registration.
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I'm confused too, too much cleaning!
So quit cleaning! It is bad for your health.. It is making you confused.
A friend was cleaning her bathtub a few years ago and somehow fell and broke her arm, so you can see where cleaning is dangerous to your health
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So quit cleaning! It is bad for your health.. It is making you confused.
A friend was cleaning her bathtub a few years ago and somehow fell and broke her arm, so you can see where cleaning is dangerous to your health
Lol, I've been glued to this computer ever since I started looking for Joey, first how to find a breeder, then how to take care of my little boy, then I started spouting advice! I clean my house every four years whether it needs it or not; and Bonbon had a thread about Dyson vacuums, she got me motivated!
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