Buying a Puppy with Underbite?

[kdreamson]

Originally Posted by Beamers Mom

So quit cleaning! It is bad for your health.. It is making you confused.
A friend was cleaning her bathtub a few years ago and somehow fell and broke her arm, so you can see where cleaning is dangerous to your health

Not to mention the fumes! So quit cleaning already, I might get motivated by you and we don't want that!

[salazark]

My Sadie was a show potential puppy till her bite went off. That's the only reason that she was available to me as a pet (limited registration). I'm biased but I think she's absolutely beautiful. I'm attaching a picture. My breeder and I were talking after I'd had her a while and I was describing her personality. She was lamenting those teeth because she really has that "look at me" personality. I was agreeing with her and she reminded me that "those teeth" were the reason I had her. Personally I' believe that the way to go is to get a pet quality pup from a good show breeder. The things that keep them from showing aren't generally even noticable by "normal" people. I wanted a Yorkie that looks like the standard and I believe that's what I got. Most show breeders aren't going to sell you a potential show puppy with full registration unless they know you really well. I have my boy now that my breeder trusted me with as a potential show puppy. As much as she trusts me, he is co-owned by her unless or until we decide he's not going to show and have him neutered. I respect her for caring so much about her lines. I also have no desire to get into breeding. The trust goes both ways.

[Beamers Mom]

Originally Posted by Nancy1999

Lol, I've been glued to this computer ever since I started looking for Joey, first how to find a breeder, then how to take care of my little boy, then I started spouting advice! I clean my house every four years whether it needs it or not; and Bonbon had a thread about Dyson vacuums, she got me motivated!

Nancy
I am attaching a weekly cleaning schedule. Please only adhere to this list. And don't let Bonbon lead you astray

[Beamers Mom]

Sadie is beautiful

[Ladymom]

It is impossible for a breeder to tell if a puppy is show potential until she about six months old.

Does your breeder show herself?

[salazark]

Originally Posted by Beamers Mom

Sadie is beautiful

Aww - thanks! My boy is Beemer!

[YorkieJoy4Us]

Originally Posted by Nancy1999

I haven't talked to knowledgeable breeders about this, but "first pick" is a little tricky isn't it? What are you looking for? I mean, some people are interested in size, but the runt of the litter, can grow to be the biggest dog. Like Bonbon said, you really don't know show quality until a dog is much older around 8-10 months. Some breeders are so good that nearly every dog they produce turn out to be excellent examples of the breed, but if this is really important, it might be best to buy an older dog. Only people who are choosing to breed need to be overly picky about the looks of the dog, for pet owners, you dog just turns into a family member, full of imperfections, so finding a breeder who does health testing and knows her lines thoroughly is so important because down the line, health will be the only thing that concerns you. Depending on where you live, $2000 is not unreasonable for a "pet" quality yorkie with limited registration.

Well thank you Nancy for the counsel... I will talk to the breeder and see what we need to do going forward..what her thoughts are...

I think my confusion is that I would pay the same price for a pup with or without this defect.. so the pricing doesn't make sense...

Its not about perfection..but aesthetics are always part of that decision making process. I was, of course, disappointed that this issue presented, but I can understand how complex it could be.. I am, as a new puppy consumer, truly looking for a quality pet to love and join the family is all.

[Nancy1999]

Originally Posted by salazark

My Sadie was a show potential puppy till her bite went off. That's the only reason that she was available to me as a pet (limited registration). I'm biased but I think she's absolutely beautiful. I'm attaching a picture. My breeder and I were talking after I'd had her a while and I was describing her personality. She was lamenting those teeth because she really has that "look at me" personality. I was agreeing with her and she reminded me that "those teeth" were the reason I had her. Personally I' believe that the way to go is to get a pet quality pup from a good show breeder. The things that keep them from showing aren't generally even noticable by "normal" people. I wanted a Yorkie that looks like the standard and I believe that's what I got. Most show breeders aren't going to sell you a potential show puppy with full registration unless they know you really well. I have my boy now that my breeder trusted me with as a potential show puppy. As much as she trusts me, he is co-owned by her unless or until we decide he's not going to show and have him neutered. I respect her for caring so much about her lines. I also have no desire to get into breeding. The trust goes both ways.

Excellent post, and I agree Beamer's Mom, Sadie is so beautiful and you are so right, if it hadn't been for those teeth, she'd probably have been bred instead of being a spoiled princess!

[Nancy1999]

Originally Posted by Beamers Mom

Nancy
I am attaching a weekly cleaning schedule. Please only adhere to this list. And don't let Bonbon lead you astray

Lol, that's so funny, and that's pretty much been my schedule for the last 4 years!

[YorkieJoy4Us]

Originally Posted by Ladymom

It is impossible for a breeder to tell if a puppy is show potential until she about six months old.

Does your breeder show herself?

Not that I am aware of... She did breed Biewers last year.. but that wasn't as successful as she'd hoped. she's been helpful and not untrustworthy..looking to find find good homes for the pups etc.

I wondered how she'd know whether the pup was show/breed at 9-10 weeks.. so maybe just obvious defects that would preclude them later on tlike this one..? I don't know...

[Beamers Mom]

How well do you know the breeder??

[Nancy1999]

Originally Posted by YorkieJoy4Us

Well thank you Nancy for the counsel... I will talk to the breeder and see what we need to do going forward..what her thoughts are...

I think my confusion is that I would pay the same price for a pup with or without this defect.. so the pricing doesn't make sense...

Its not about perfection..but aesthetics are always part of that decision making process. I was, of course, disappointed that this issue presented, but I can understand how complex it could be.. I am, as a new puppy consumer, truly looking for a quality pet to love and join the family is all.

I understand what you mean, when I went to get Joey, I was actually going to buy his brother, who was really an excellent example of the breed for a 12 week old. All of Joey's breeder's pet dogs are the same price, no difference in males or females. However, when we got there, Joey came over to me and wanted me to hold him, his brother just bit my toes and ran. Lol, I know some people love that type attitude, but I bonded with Joey. He wasn't perfect, his tail had been broken during birth, but he acted like he loved me, and I loved him. The price didn't go down just because I chose the "imperfect" dog. For me, it's not about price as much as it is, do you believe in this breeder, and what type of guarantee does she offer? You are really buying a relationship with this breeder; she's the first one you should turn to with questions concerning your dog.

[YorkieJoy4Us]

Originally Posted by salazark

My Sadie was a show potential puppy till her bite went off. That's the only reason that she was available to me as a pet (limited registration). I'm biased but I think she's absolutely beautiful. I'm attaching a picture. My breeder and I were talking after I'd had her a while and I was describing her personality. She was lamenting those teeth because she really has that "look at me" personality. I was agreeing with her and she reminded me that "those teeth" were the reason I had her. Personally I' believe that the way to go is to get a pet quality pup from a good show breeder. The things that keep them from showing aren't generally even noticable by "normal" people. I wanted a Yorkie that looks like the standard and I believe that's what I got. Most show breeders aren't going to sell you a potential show puppy with full registration unless they know you really well. I have my boy now that my breeder trusted me with as a potential show puppy. As much as she trusts me, he is co-owned by her unless or until we decide he's not going to show and have him neutered. I respect her for caring so much about her lines. I also have no desire to get into breeding. The trust goes both ways.

Thanks sal.. I appreciate your sharing this... I too want a yorkie that looks like the standard, not perfecetion.. just quality that is why I chose a breeder who was breeding from champion lines. I think I'm just not wanting to have potential issues or an obvious aesthetic variation.. or a mini bull-dog look somewhere down the line.. no offense remotely intended.

How wonderfully helpful everyone has been....What a great community to have to turn to... wow... I certainly made the right puppy choice..

[Nancy1999]

Originally Posted by YorkieJoy4Us

Not that I am aware of... She did breed Biewers last year.. but that wasn't as successful as she'd hoped. she's been helpful and not untrustworthy..looking to find find good homes for the pups etc.

I wondered how she'd know whether the pup was show/breed at 9-10 weeks.. so maybe just obvious defects that would preclude them later on tlike this one..? I don't know...

I was assuming your breeder showed dogs, that does seem like a high price for someone who doesn't show. There should be champions on both sides back many generations for that price. Someone at Yorkietalk told me about the Yorkshire Terrier Club of American, and I'm so glad they did, I found an excellent breeder through them. You can see a link to breeder referrals in my signature; I suggest you talk to a few. I'm concerned someone would change what they were breeding because they weren't successful, you should be thoroughly in love with the breed you have chosen, and feel like you have something to offer the breed. It should never be seen as a way to earn money.

[YorkieJoy4Us]

Originally Posted by Beamers Mom

How well do you know the breeder??

I don't know her personally at all.. Just through email, and the fact that she had Biewers.. and Yorkies.. and had some nice looking pups from her last breeds.

She is trying to do the right thing I believe.. not trying to rip me off.. I am kind of afraid to talk to her about my concerns.. or if we want to look at other pups... so I am tryng to be as informed as possible about how to address my concerns.. Hence my wonderful conversations here with you good folks ..