Life's Abundance

[PrincessDiana]

Originally Posted by BaxtersMommy

I was offended by the comment that, the only raves of the food are by reps. This is simply not true.

I believe you are referring to this quote:

Originally Posted by AMD

Life's Abundance seems to be raved about by those who sell it (reps), but it wasn't right for us.

I don't see anything offensive about this comment. First of all, she never said the ONLY raves of the food are by reps, BUT.... and I could be wrong - I'm not around here all that often - but from my personal observation, the only people who have posted about Life's Abundance are the ones who sell it. That's not saying that LA isn't a good food but to me, it definitely causes some suspicion. I'm not entirely sure why something like that would be offensive to someone - it's simply a comment about an observation.

I personally think it's wonderful that you believe in LA so much. It's awesome that you have so much confidence that you're willing to spend some money and give out free samples. I know I myself have received one of those samples (although I don't remember from who).

Just because it doesn't work for every dog doesn't mean it won't work for some. I know personally one of the things that turned me off of LA was the having to have it shipped - I like the convenience of being able to drive to the store and pick up dog food whenever I need it.

[BaxtersMommy]

Maybe because it wasn't directed to you, so you don't take it to offense. It doesnt matter.

[AllDogBoots]

I love Life's Abundance food. It works for us, whatever that's supposed to mean. My dog's are healthy. Cooper no longer has stomach issues whatsoever and he really seems to enjoy his meal times.

I think it all boils down to who is purchasing food for their dog. Some people here practically have a nutrition degree in dog food. Ok, then maybe LA is not the perfect food; I'm not really sure. Some people purchase awful dog food at Walmart and perhaps Life's Abundance is a huge step up. For someone like myself, the average dog owner with basic canine health knowledge, who went from my vet's recommended Science Diet to Life's Abundance - I'm thrilled with it.

[BaxtersMommy]

Originally Posted by AllDogBoots

I love Life's Abundance food. It works for us, whatever that's supposed to mean. My dog's are healthy. Cooper no longer has stomach issues whatsoever and he really seems to enjoy his meal times.

I think it all boils down to who is purchasing food for their dog. Some people here practically have a nutrition degree in dog food. Ok, then maybe LA is not the perfect food; I'm not really sure. Some people purchase awful dog food at Walmart and perhaps Life's Abundance is a huge step up. For someone like myself, the average dog owner with basic canine health knowledge, who went from my vet's recommended Science Diet to Life's Abundance - I'm thrilled with it.

It still amazes me that Vets recommend Science Diet. GROSS! It is so bad! Glad you and the furbutts are happy with it. That is great!

[AllDogBoots]

Originally Posted by BaxtersMommy

It still amazes me that Vets recommend Science Diet. GROSS! It is so bad! Glad you and the furbutts are happy with it. That is great!

Right, and my point is that the average dog owner doesn't know Science Diet is bad. I didn't know that until i joined this site. Cooper was on the allergy and stomach ones though. My whole vet's office is filled with Science Diet food and treats. I understand they make money with it. It's a business.

And as a side note: I had a dog growing up who ate the cheapest food and the worst treats and she lived a very healthy life up to 15.

[AMD]

So sorry to offend...not my intent at all. My apologies.

Originally Posted by PrincessDiana

I believe you are referring to this quote:



I don't see anything offensive about this comment. First of all, she never said the ONLY raves of the food are by reps, BUT.... and I could be wrong - I'm not around here all that often - but from my personal observation, the only people who have posted about Life's Abundance are the ones who sell it. That's not saying that LA isn't a good food but to me, it definitely causes some suspicion. I'm not entirely sure why something like that would be offensive to someone - it's simply a comment about an observation.

I personally think it's wonderful that you believe in LA so much. It's awesome that you have so much confidence that you're willing to spend some money and give out free samples. I know I myself have received one of those samples (although I don't remember from who).

Just because it doesn't work for every dog doesn't mean it won't work for some. I know personally one of the things that turned me off of LA was the having to have it shipped - I like the convenience of being able to drive to the store and pick up dog food whenever I need it.

There was absolutely no personal intent in my comment. I see LA raved by reps, but it wasn't for us when we tried it. Yes I read of others that like it too but the majority is the reps. But it just wasn't for us. That's it. No personal direction intended. I'm not sure why that came accross offensive.

I offered the OP to contact a rep if he'd like to try it...because I know there are many who offer free samples. Didn't say reps were lying...didn't say they were getting rich, didn't say it was a bad food. Just wasn't for us.

Baxtersmommy, please let me be clear that I was NOT in any way commenting towards you...or anybody else for that matter. I think it was read a little too personally, when it was simply a statement of general observation. I am so sorry it was taken personal and was offensive. I didn't have that at heart one bit. My forgiveness asked.

[Rhetts_mama]

Originally Posted by Breezeaway

I had been feeding my yorkies Life's Abundance for several months now and I sent them an email last week just asking if they were going to make a smaller kibble for small dogs. I didn't care for their reply.
Here is the reply I got:
"No smaller kibble. Did you ever get bit by a 2 pound puppy? They have very
sharp teeth. And – studies show that big dogs like both small and large
kibble and small breed dogs like large and small kibble.

Dr. Bicks

Customer Service
HealthyPetNet
Trilogy International, Inc
(877)387-4564"

Well, that would be enough to keep me away from them. How about a simple, "Sorry- we don't have any plans to make a small bite kibble at this time..."

[Rhetts_mama]

Originally Posted by AllDogBoots

I love Life's Abundance food. It works for us, whatever that's supposed to mean. My dog's are healthy. Cooper no longer has stomach issues whatsoever and he really seems to enjoy his meal times.

I think it all boils down to who is purchasing food for their dog. Some people here practically have a nutrition degree in dog food. Ok, then maybe LA is not the perfect food; I'm not really sure. Some people purchase awful dog food at Walmart and perhaps Life's Abundance is a huge step up. For someone like myself, the average dog owner with basic canine health knowledge, who went from my vet's recommended Science Diet to Life's Abundance - I'm thrilled with it.

I think that what it comes down to is "Does it work for YOUR" dog? Is your dog healthly? Does it have a shiny coat? Are it's stools normal? And most importantly- Does your dog EAT it? The best kibble in the world doesn't mean squat if you can't get your dog interested in it.

I can't count the number of foods I've been through over the years trying to find a good balance between price/nutrition/healthy reactions/edibility.

[BaxtersMommy]

Originally Posted by AMD

So sorry to offend...not my intent at all. My apologies.





There was absolutely no personal intent in my comment. I see LA raved by reps, but it wasn't for us when we tried it. Yes I read of others that like it too but the majority is the reps. But it just wasn't for us. That's it. No personal direction intended. I'm not sure why that came accross offensive.

I offered the OP to contact a rep if he'd like to try it...because I know there are many who offer free samples. Didn't say reps were lying...didn't say they were getting rich, didn't say it was a bad food. Just wasn't for us.

Baxtersmommy, please let me be clear that I was NOT in any way commenting towards you...or anybody else for that matter. I think it was read a little too personally, when it was simply a statement of general observation. I am so sorry it was taken personal and was offensive. I didn't have that at heart one bit. My forgiveness asked.

OK thanks.

[Breny]

Deb, I addressed this with them and did get a reply. I've been having email issues but I will also send this too you.


From: drjanebicks@healthypetnet.com
Subject: Re: Need this addressed ASAP [TRI: 1645573]-
Date: September 7, 2010 4:16:29 PM EDT
To: greensyorkies@gmail.com


I apologize. The message was not meant to be taken in a rude way. It was
only to make a clear, straight answer on puppies ability to eat the kibble.
There's absolutely no doubt that puppies can eat the size kibble we offer
and the reason is mentioned, therefore is no reason to change size.

Originally Posted by Breezeaway

I had been feeding my yorkies Life's Abundance for several months now and I sent them an email last week just asking if they were going to make a smaller kibble for small dogs. I didn't care for their reply.
Here is the reply I got:
"No smaller kibble. Did you ever get bit by a 2 pound puppy? They have very
sharp teeth. And – studies show that big dogs like both small and large
kibble and small breed dogs like large and small kibble.

Dr. Bicks

Customer Service
HealthyPetNet
Trilogy International, Inc
(877)387-4564"

[lil fu fu girl]

[QUOTE=Britster;3264777]Dried beet pulp. It is a high fiber by-product of sugar beet processing, is probably what she was referring to. Also, Potassium Chloride is a form of salt, Salt (real salt is listed), Canola Oil is often a controversial ingredient but I don't know exactly why or if canola oil is "bad". Also, "dried beets" is another one that had me I just don't see why this stuff is necessary in our carnivores food. And what does 'natural flavors' even mean? Since both brewers yeast and flaxseed meal are high in plant-based protein, they are capable of raising the amount of protein reported in this dog food, and plant based protein is not good.

Dried beet pulp is high in fiber as well as containing significant amounts of calcium. Unfortunately, due to the oxalate count, a percentage of the calcium is chemically-bound to these oxalates, and excreted out.

Canola oil, once processed for use in dog foods or as cooking oil, looses all its omega 3 benefits and essentially transforms into a trans-fatty acids. Canola oil also comes from the rapeseed which is toxic to humans before processing, and has been commonly used as a pesticide.

Potassium chloride is used as a substitute for sodium chloride(table salt) and is basically used just like salt, as a flavor enhancer. The problem lies in the fact that even though potassium is needed for the bodies functions, if you have a kidney compromised pup the excretion of excess potassium could lead to issues, compromising the kidneys even more.

[Breezeaway]

Originally Posted by Breny

Deb, I addressed this with them and did get a reply. I've been having email issues but I will also send this too you.


From: drjanebicks@healthypetnet.com
Subject: Re: Need this addressed ASAP [TRI: 1645573]-
Date: September 7, 2010 4:16:29 PM EDT
To: greensyorkies@gmail.com


I apologize. The message was not meant to be taken in a rude way. It was
only to make a clear, straight answer on puppies ability to eat the kibble.
There's absolutely no doubt that puppies can eat the size kibble we offer
and the reason is mentioned, therefore is no reason to change size.

Doesn't matter now, I canceled my orders. They sent another email and they truly are very insensitive to pet owners. I just the feel its all about the money from them and they really don't care about the pet or the consumer for that matter. They truly have no loyalty to their consumers . No apology , no nothing so I sent a discontinue on auto ship..They just discontinued me and said::ear Valued Customer,

Your autoship has been cancelled as requested. Please contact us when you
would like to reinstate your autoship again. Thank you.

Customer Service
HealthyPetNet
Trilogy International, Inc
(877)387-4564

[BaxtersMommy]

Originally Posted by Breezeaway

Doesn't matter now, I canceled my orders. They sent another email and they truly are very insensitive to pet owners. I just the feel its all about the money from them and they really don't care about the pet or the consumer for that matter. They truly have no loyalty to their consumers . No apology , no nothing so I sent a discontinue on auto ship..They just discontinued me and said::ear Valued Customer,

Your autoship has been cancelled as requested. Please contact us when you
would like to reinstate your autoship again. Thank you.

Customer Service
HealthyPetNet
Trilogy International, Inc
(877)387-4564

Sorry you were offended. The great thing about LA is you have a personal Rep. She could have answered your questions too. I understand you were offended by Dr. Jane's email, I still don't see anything wrong with it. But, to each his own. Also, the message you receieved for canceling your account is a standard email that goes to everyone. You must understand that they have thousands of customers and it is impossible to answer each cancellation request individually. I think it is awesome that Brenda contacted Dr. Jane and she responded so quickly. That is not anything Brenda had to do, she did it on her own and that is how we are set apart. Your rep cares and wants to help. Also, you say they don't care about our customers and have no loyalty. We have an awesome customer service team available to our customers, Dr. Jane does her Bi weekly calls for personal questions and answers AND they have a customer satisfaction guarantee. Not sure what they could do differently. I certainly do not know of many other compainies that do these things, especially offering calls and being able to email the formulator. They continue to impress me. Once again, sorry you were offended. I have been offended by this thread, some of the comments have been obnoxious. It happens. But, it is important for you to know that Dr. Jane didn't mean to be rude. People can mis interpret sometimes, guess that is what happened in your case.

[BanditSocks2]

Originally Posted by Britster

Totally agree.



I do not blindly follow one website, btw. It is not just dogfoodanalysis that states these facts. I *have* done my research. I just don't see how anyone could prove that a dog eating higher meat content is a bad thing. I really truly don't know how safe your pet food is, nor any pet food for that matter. A lot of pet food companies blantanly lie. But generally speaking, the only food I would consider feeding or trusting right now is Champion Pet Foods, Acana and Orijen. They have an amazing video on their website showing exactly where their food is made and processed, all free range animals, they explain the entire process. My dog eats better than I do! Sad story. Oh, and

Dogs are taxonomically the same species as wolves, and physiologically and anatomically the same and actually share 99.8% of the same DNA. Size and appearance are in the less than .2% differences (thanks to Princess Diana for that information), therefore I like to feed a food that is 'close' to what the wolves eat in the wild (ok, we know wolves aren't getting served kibble in a bowl... but it's the closest you can get, IMO, with the convenience of kibble). I'm actually not even 100% against grains, I will feed treats and occasionally wet food with 'good' and minimal grains in it. I just don't believe they have any real benefit to our carnivores, but I don't think some of them will necessarily hurt or be bad for them, either.

Anyways, it's just my personal preference to feed grain free, low carb, meat protein rich foods. Ultimately, though, I think it's what works best for you and your dog. I've done alot of research and have finally settled that this works best for Jackson! Again, I don't believe LA is a bad food by any means. And if it worked for my dog, I would obviously continue feeding it and be happy with it. I just don't think it should be such a black or white statement that LA is "the best" and "only" dog food you can trust and feed (you challenging me to find a safer food). That's just simply not the case. But of course someone who sells it is going to state this. Every dog does good on different things and while LA may not work for some, it will work for others. And that's the great thing about variety. We can choose.

Agree!

[BaxtersMommy]

Regarding Chicken Meal, Beet Pulp etc.

I would suggest any and everyone to listen to the recording. Go to this site and on the right side of the page, you will see all the ingredients. Click on the first one being Chicken Meal, Dr. Jane explains WHY all of these ingredients you question.

FYI this site was referenced on page one of this thread. But, still not sure if anyone has listened.

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