This subject is a huge pet peeve of mine……I started looking into this about two years ago and I was shocked at the information that I found out about vets overvaccinating our pets. Dr. Dodds is not the only researcher fighting this, Dr Schultz is also….. Dr. B. Rogers and Dr. Pitcairn, Dr C. Loops and many, many, more vets are also voicing their objections to this practice. There are also many pet advocates trying to get the word out……This information is not new, many of these people who are vocal about this have been doing this for decades………

The three year recommendation is also too often for giving boosters. It was a *compromise* to appease the angry vets who are fearful of lost profits. Talk about ethical vets.....Shameful...... If you look at Dr. Dodds schedule she has no mention of boosters after the one year vaccines, this is also the same recommendation from all the other researchers. There is absolutely no scientific basis for boosters.

So you ask why are we still overvaccinating? We have allowed those in positions of authority to instill unnecessary fear in us; fear that if our animals are not religiously vaccinated, we are endangering their lives. Shame on all of us.

As a side note……..I was extremely surprised at the results of the poll regarding the use of combo vaccines. The use of combo vaccines is also not a recommended vaccine, they are not promoted by any researcher or advocate, yet most vets use them. This vaccine has many problems associated with its use……These are some of the problems with the use of combo vaccines…

*Their contents consist of a mixture of bacteria and viruses, several of which are not beneficial or needed.

*This powerful mixture overwhelms the immune system putting the dog at risks for developing chronic diseases, it also greatly increases the risks for adverse reactions.

*The components also compete with each other, which can result in neutralization or negation or can produce a poor antibody response.

*If your dog experiences a reaction to the combo shot, there is no way to determine which antigen caused the reaction and must be avoided in the future.

*If all this isn’t bad enough, the components are unnecessary for most adult dogs, the great majority of which have lifetime immunity to the important shots or have no need for other ingredients.

Combination shots are part of the unethical practice of over-vaccination of pets. They should have no place in your dog’s health care regimen. And vets who use them should have no place in your dog’s life. Please, speak up for the ones who can't......

What we're talking about here - vaccine protocols - isn't just "talk". This is based upon published, peer-reviewed research. Also, dogs have sacrificed their lives in order for OUR dogs to have this research and lead safer, healthier lives through not being overvaccinated.

If I remember correctly, you start vaccinating your pups at 6 wks and you give lepto, and you vaccinate anuually - and I don't know of any protocol that supports this - I really wish you'd consider what is recommended currently bc I think you're doing your pups' health a great disservice :(. Lepto is non-core and is especially dangerous to yorkies in particular. The AAHA has listed that vaccine as non-core since 2003 (at least!?), so for 7 years now. The AAHA's vaccine protocol even states, "...anecdotal reports of acute anaphylaxis in toy breeds" -and- "...most severe reactions in young puppies..." -and- "efficacy can be low".

Vaccinations affect the immunity and health of a pup for their lifetime. Overvaccinating can be very detrimental - just look at the research. This is why it's important to give our dogs only what they really need for the best health.

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Why do some breeders not do research on these important issues......Just because a pup is up and walking around after a vaccine is in so way shape or form an indication the vaccine did no damage. You can't see what is taking place on a cellular level inside the pup....This practice is starting the pup off on a bad start for the new pet owner....What a shame......


This is in regards to starting a pup off by not doing vaccines in a safe and correct way.... too soon and too many....

“If you imprint the immune system incorrectly, it will never work correctly again.” Ronald D. Schultz.

i do what vets protocol here in va all i have ever seen nor heard is that your pup should be vaccinated at 6 9 12 weeks..always severed me well..my pups are healthy and thriving..never a problem..any vet i have ever worked with does the same.never heard any different till YT

i also know for a fact that a dog can and will get parvo if not vaccinated..and i would think thats how is transferred. by people NOT vaccinating and spreading the diseases that way and the ones that arent protected will be the ones suffering.

i have never had to deal with an illness or reaction

i know working for a rescue we had some young terriers with parvo..thats not something to play around with and taking chances on..so i will keep with protecting my pets..i dont think its necessary to give it yearly once older..but definitely every other year

i also know a person who brought home a new puppy and she stated she had been vaccinated (lbreeder lied) and the puppy got parvo..she survived but it was costly and there was the fear of her other pets being in jeopardy . she couldnt have any more puppies for some time if she wanted one..she had to bleach the entire home..and thats time consuming and not to mention the heart ache and fear of losing her pet because she wasnt vaccinate and hadnt built up enough of an immune system

the idea of not vaccinating sounds like a breeding ground for parvo...

JMO

i had to watch those videos again so here are two questions that come to mind

if vets are titered and they know they are safe why are they not accepted in dogs?

also is the profit coming from annual vaccines or is the profit coming in the care of a sick dog from vaccines?

good questions

well its a dang shame when they die of parvo because someone didnt prevent it

Tammy - NO ONE is saying NOT to vaccinate. What is being said is to NOT overvaccinate.

Using your logic then...which is *not* to follow published, current research - you would be comfortable vaccinating every month then? I mean, do you see what we're saying?

Do you understand DOI? The research is saying --> if DOI is lifetime, it is then unhealthy to continue to assault the immune system by giving vaccines.

Do *you* get a chicken pox vaccine vaccine every year? Why or why not?

I agree

there was a girl on here and she lived about 2 hrs from me and she called every vet near her and not one had the parvo and distemper separated. She was so upset posted on here so i called my vet as when mine were vaccinated i did not know this existed so mine got the combo. My vet now does separated parvo distemper but she charges for a vet visit each time to get them separately. I am not sure but sadly this girl would have had to drive 2 hrs to go to my vet due to none of them in her area having it. I think it is because most owners are uneducated and just go with the flow so it is cheaper for them to get the combo rather than the separated so why pay for two separate vaccines when you can just give one and if you do not carry it what choice does the owner have?

Is it more expensive for the separate parvo and distemper than the combo for the vet to buy as i really do not know what the costs are ?

I think the answer is both, Deb. And, not only are the vets making $$ from both, when a pet dies at what I consider too early an age (possibly bc of the over vaccinating and trash food vets promote), the vets are assured when you get another puppy, the cycle of profit continues for them.

i believe in doing the booster at 6 9 12 and sometimes 15 weeks..and then once a year.i do believe in it..thats what has been taught for years..and im old school if it aint broke dont fix it... for me its not broke..

no i dont follow new researches at all..one day something is good for you the next its not...i do what i know works for us...

check out my post below where i have titered for 5 plus years and a plumber came in to my home 2xs the week his puppy was in the vet for parvo. My dogs are fine. Every professional i called as i called ALOT loll told me do not worry they were vaccinated as puppies they will be fine - why? because they know once the puppy shots are done the dog is probably protected. They also told me at specialty hospital that parvo is EVERYWHERE. You can get it on you and bring it in to your home no matter where you live. My friends dog got parvo because she did not do puppy shots and took her dog hiking in the mountains and it was sad as she could not find a vet to take her and quarantine her but after running around all over finally found one and her dog lived.

The two examples are this puppy you stated and my friend is they did not have their puppy shots and the dogs need to have that to be protected. It is the dhpp after the one year booster that is in question on necessity

the 5 way is cheaper then the 7 way with lepto..i also dont know any vets that separate it..but mine have it before i heard of any reactions from it..and im not uncomfortable with using it....but i typically do the 5 way without lepto

But we aren't talking about not vaccinating puppies. Yes, puppies should get vaccinated. Every protocol out there says so and it is just plain scary to not.

This is what to do after the one year booster is given.

And even for those who insist on starting at 6 weeks, they should not be stopped until 16 weeks minimum (preferably 18). That leaves a lot of dogs wide open for disease. Surprising that vets say vaccines are needed yearly, but at the same time they don't know to give one more set to puppies.

Do vaccines come from different companies and are there some safer than others?

Can they be contaminated and reported by lot number to vets like say a recall on vaccines?