De-Barking

[Funky Chicken]

Originally Posted by 4TheLuvofYorkie

wow how heartless are you? why own a dog if you arent going to let them bark or play. you wont get to hear how happy they are when they see you or they wont be able to talk to you or bark when theyre playing
more power to you, lady

sweetheart, before you pass judgement read the whole thread. you know what happens when you ASS-U-ME?

[Funky Chicken]

Originally Posted by rrosenberry

I know plenty of people who should be DE-VOICED! LOL

i can relate!

[Funky Chicken]

Originally Posted by crystalsmom

Funky Chicken, rescue is different. You are doing this poor darling a great
service.

thank you, Chrystal! he's certainly been worth all our time.

[crystalsmom]

You're welcome sweetie, I think if you read the first post it reads like the surgery
was done right before you got him and you requested it but like you said read the
whole thread.

[crystalsmom]

She couldn't do it to a dog either.

[Funky Chicken]

Originally Posted by crystalsmom

You're welcome sweetie, I think if you read the first post it reads like the surgery
was done right before you got him and you requested it but like you said read the
whole thread.

AH! i c. no, i'd never have it done. i was going after education/information on this thread. i get many people who are interested in it. i wanted some real-world experiences. sometimes VET info vs. people info can be like night & day.

thanks again, CM.

[kewtee]

We can all agree that it is cruel, but it really is a cultural thing.

Because I would NEVER cut a dogs tail off - it is insane and cruel. But in the states it is very common.
In the old rome older men taught boys about sex and today that would be pedofilia and strictly forbidden.

So removing your dogs vocal cords is a cultural thing. I would never do it, but if it is a precedure that is with minimal risk to the dog I can see why people would do it. We spay our dogs even though it is not needed - because it is too annoying to deal with heat. It is in no way different from removing vocal cords or tails!

[yorkieusa]

Originally Posted by kewtee

We can all agree that it is cruel, but it really is a cultural thing.

Because I would NEVER cut a dogs tail off - it is insane and cruel. But in the states it is very common.
In the old rome older men taught boys about sex and today that would be pedofilia and strictly forbidden.

So removing your dogs vocal cords is a cultural thing. I would never do it, but if it is a precedure that is with minimal risk to the dog I can see why people would do it. We spay our dogs even though it is not needed - because it is too annoying to deal with heat. It is in no way different from removing vocal cords or tails!

Cutting a dogs vocal cords has nothing to do with CULTURE in the US, but to eliminate the SOUND of barking. It is a cruel practice because a doggies bark is its ONLY warning that it is in danger and needs help.

Our doggies are spayed when they won't be bred to eliminate the risk of cancer and tumors in later life as well as unwanted pregnancies. That decision is a responsible health decision and has nothing at all to do with heat being annoying to the owners.

What is a cultural practice in one country does not make the same practice a cultural one in another.

[kewtee]

doggies bark is its ONLY warning that it is in danger and needs help.

But our yorkies live with us and don't need that - just like the tail is a VERY important part of the dogs signals and bodylanguage, but they live with us and don't need it...

[Funky Chicken]

Originally Posted by kewtee

just like the tail is a VERY important part of the dogs signals and bodylanguage, but they live with us and don't need it...

whoa! never thought of that! good point.

[yorkieusa]

Originally Posted by kewtee

But our yorkies live with us and don't need that - just like the tail is a VERY important part of the dogs signals and bodylanguage, but they live with us and don't need it...

I totally agree about the tail. It doesn't need to be removed. It wasn't the tail that was the topic of discussion. The topic of discussion was barking. My Muffin alerted me many times over the years of danger when she was in her fenced yard and once when she saw someone from a window. She had no other way to tell me. That was her way of speaking. So, I must point out that you are wrong on that point as well as spaying and neutering needs.

[xtine]

Originally Posted by 4TheLuvofYorkie

wow how heartless are you? why own a dog if you arent going to let them bark or play. you wont get to hear how happy they are when they see you or they wont be able to talk to you or bark when theyre playing
more power to you, lady

I didn't read the whole thread, but this comment is rather odd. Here she is saying why own a dog if your not going to let them bark.. in her other thread, she threw out her 4 month old puppy at night because she was crying and she wanted sleep? how heartless is that?

i don't know, but that's just odd to me...

[HisNameIsHarley]

Hmm.. this thread seems to be falling a bit off topic (hehe hope I don't end up contradicing myself later! ) and seems a bit shall I say "personal" .. But back to business I truly believe that de-barking a dog is a horrible practice. I do not believe it should even be legal. I agree with previous posters that if you don't want a barking dog then you should own a cat. (or a ferret! They're really cool and don't bark! ) Dogs are meant to bark. Period. What happens if your dog gets away from you, becomes lost and injured and cannot cry out for help? Imagine your pup stranded totally helpless and most likely in a situation w/ no hope just because you decided that their barking didn't fit your lifestyle, living quarters/standards/zones or even your patience levels. Is that really what any normal TRUE dog loving person wants? I am VERY glad that you (funky chicken) adopted your baby bc now you can give him tons and tons of extra love to try make up for what that horrible woman took away from him. Lots of yorkie loving TLC! There are TONS of humane forms of obedience training that controls dogs barking. There are other means like collars that spritz water in the direction of their face when they bark etc. (this has worked for us btw. And I find it much more humane than the 'shock' collars .. ouch) But de-barking just seems to me to be a real "easy way out" loop hole that undedicated dog owners use to avoid spending real time and practice on controlling their dogs barking/behavior. And finally, why de-bark a yorkie anyway? Their job is to let us know when people are coming and when weird sounds and things are happening right? It's what they're good at!

[HisNameIsHarley]

(4TheLuvofYorkie
wow how heartless are you? why own a dog if you arent going to let them bark or play. you wont get to hear how happy they are when they see you or they wont be able to talk to you or bark when theyre playing
more power to you, lady)

Originally Posted by xtine

I didn't read the whole thread, but this comment is rather odd. Here she is saying why own a dog if your not going to let them bark.. in her other thread, she threw out her 4 month old puppy at night because she was crying and she wanted sleep? how heartless is that?

i don't know, but that's just odd to me...

Just went back and read that thread.. wow.. um now I'm off topic .. Sorry, but that's the first time I've had angry tears in a long time.. I'll say no more.

[Funky Chicken]

Originally Posted by xtine

I didn't read the whole thread, but this comment is rather odd. Here she is saying why own a dog if your not going to let them bark.. in her other thread, she threw out her 4 month old puppy at night because she was crying and she wanted sleep? how heartless is that?

i don't know, but that's just odd to me...

EXACTLY.... i saw the other thread about her puppy and it confused me as well.