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09-27-2009, 11:38 AM | #1 |
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| Royal Canin Puppy vs. Wellness Puppy Good afternoon, Our breeder feeds her puppies Royal Canin and later switches them to Canidae. Originally, I was going to switch from Royal Canin puppy to Wellness because I already had a bag of it (long story). I thought of switching to the Wellness puppy because the ingredients didn't include corn(particularly in the top 5), which by word of mouth is not the best thing. I then ran into a Royal Canin rep at the pets store and she stated that corn is actually a necessary filler and is fine for the dogs. It also seems that Royal Canin specifically targets Yorkies which gave me a sense of confidence in the food. I've read the boards here and went to the Dog Food Rating place which basically trashed RC. RC is more expensive than Wellness, which makes me wonder if corn wasn't good for the dogs, why did they include it at all? I don't know what to think.. but a 2-star food? That's pretty bad considering it's 20$ for a 3kg bag. So I'm confused... are the folks who make RC too big to care or uneducated? Or are they perhaps well aware of how they manufactured their food, and the review of an outsider only speculates that the ingredients are not suitable (whereas RC's scientists should know what they are doing???). |
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09-27-2009, 12:18 PM | #2 |
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| I don't really think RC is a TERRIBLE food. It's far better than any Kibbles n' Bits or Pedigree but I think it's highly over-priced for the ingredients in it, considering it's got a ton of grains which are cheap to produce. I personally wouldn't feed it but a lot of dogs do perfectly fine w/ grains and RC. I just wouldn't be willing to pay that much money for such a small bag considering I can get a 6lb bag of Innova for $12.99 (he eats Nature's Variety Instinct now which is a little more expensive but he loves it and it's wonderful ingredients, no grains). It's not something I would personally choose to feed my dog.
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09-27-2009, 12:23 PM | #3 |
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| If you are anything like me, the more you try to read and learn about food, the more confused that you will become. Of course a rep from RC is going to tell you that their food is best, and alot of vets will agree because they sell RC, so they too are getting a kickback! Some people love RC and others don't, my little boy loved it, unfortunatly it didn't love his tummy! You will also find that some people love Wellness and then some have had less than great experiences with it as well. I am currently in the process of trying to find a new food, and I have ordered a couple of trial size bags of Acana, which is made by Orijen. The best thing to remember is that any transition needs to be made very gradually and that what works best for someone else may not work for you at all. This forum is full of wonderful information and people who will help you out as much as possible, but it basically boils down to what works best for your baby! Jeri and Harley |
09-27-2009, 12:46 PM | #4 |
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| Corn isn't inherently bad, but it usually isn't a desired ingredient...definitely is not a necessary filler. Some dogs do fine with corn, but others are allergic and terribly itchy from it. The reason manufacturers use corn, lots of grains and other fillers is because they are cheap. I would choose Wellness over RC considering quality and price. Last edited by AMD; 09-27-2009 at 12:48 PM. |
09-27-2009, 07:07 PM | #5 |
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| I would suggest Wellness, partly because it's a much better quality product that RC and also because it's done wonders for Bandit. It's one of the only foods he actually likes and we haven't had as many stomach issues on it. Good luck |
09-27-2009, 07:33 PM | #6 |
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| I use to use RC but the I switched to wellness and my dogs love it. I didn't have any bad experiences with RC I just wanted to try something new. |
09-27-2009, 08:05 PM | #7 | |
I ♥ Joey & Ralphie! Donating Member | I use RC and even though I don't believe in those rating sites, they affect me as well. The site I read didn't actually use the ingredients RC claims to use, and also was reviewed by only one person, who actually has no credentials in dog nutrition or even human nutrition. So I try to take the review results with a grain of salt, but it's hard, when things are written on a site like that, they "seem" to be true. Some of the reviews results were given by a rating scale, giving a point for this and a point for that, as well as taking away a point for this and a point for that, this is really not good science, nor a good way to judge a food. I'm not sure why corn has gotten such a bad name, sometimes I think it's because people read things fast, and like things simple, for example you want to avoid Corn Gluten and it has little food value, but some people think this means corn. It also shouldn't be used as the main source of protein, as you may know, corn mixed with other amino acids is a protein, not a carbohydrate, but this should not be used as the main source of protein. Quote:
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09-28-2009, 03:39 AM | #8 | |
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09-28-2009, 07:04 AM | #9 |
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| Wellness Puppy was good for Max when he was a pup. Except he weighed 3 lbs then and the pieces were to big. Now he is eating a mix of Wellness Healthy Weight and Acana. He is 7 lbs and can handle the bigger food bits. I am trying to get him back down to 6 lbs. The higher protein did not work for us. But he loves the Acana.
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09-28-2009, 09:36 AM | #10 | |
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I imagine corn gets it's bad rep partly from it being such a high allergen ingredient. I prefer grain-free, so I'm not a big fan of RC, but I don't think corn is inherently bad. My biggest complaint about RC using corn is not the corn, it's that they use CORN GLUTEN MEAL! "Corn gluten meal is the by-product after the manufacture of corn syrup or starch, and is the dried residue after the removal of the bran, germ, and starch." (Interpreting Dog Food Labels) Apparently, corn gluten meal is also used for lawn care. lol Last edited by AMD; 09-28-2009 at 09:37 AM. | |
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09-28-2009, 11:28 AM | #12 | |
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09-28-2009, 11:34 AM | #13 | |
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09-28-2009, 03:13 PM | #14 |
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| I like grainfree bc it is species appropriate, as is high protein, due to the physical make-up of a dog. As carnivores, they were designed to have almost exclusively meat in their diet. I'm not saying that only grain-free foods are good though. There are some good foods that contain grains like Innova, Wellness.... Last edited by AMD; 09-28-2009 at 03:15 PM. Reason: spelling |
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