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Old 06-10-2009, 06:40 AM   #1
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Here is Dr. W. Jean Dodds' Latest Recommendation Vaccination Schedule for those of you who are interested.

Vaccination Schedule Recommendations For Dogs

Dr. Jean Dodds' Recommended Vaccination Schedule

Distemper (MLV)
Initial (e.g. Intervet Progard Puppy) 9 weeks, 12 weeks, 16 - 20 weeks
1st Annual Booster At 1 year MLV Distemper/ Parvovirus only
Re-Administration Interval None needed.
Duration of immunity 7.5 / 15 years by studies. Probably lifetime. Longer studies pending.
Comments Can have numerous side effects if given too young (< 8 weeks).

Parvovirus (MLV)
Initial (e.g. Intervet Progard Puppy) 9 weeks, 12 weeks, 16 - 20 weeks
1st Annual BoosterAt 1 year MLV Distemper/ Parvovirus only
Re-Administration Interval None needed.
Duration of immunity 7.5 years by studies. Probably lifetime. Longer studies pending.
Comments At 6 weeks of age, only 30% of puppies are protected but 100% are exposed to the virus at the vet clinic.

Rabies (killed)
Initial 24 weeks or older
1st Annual BoosterAt 1 year (give 3-4 weeks apart from Dist/Parvo booster) Killed 3 year rabies vaccine
Re-Administration Interval 3 yr. vaccine given as required by law in California (follow your state/provincial requirements)
Comments rabid animals may infect dogs.

Vaccines Not Recommended For Dogs

Distemper & Parvo @ 6 weeks or younger
Not recommended.
At this age, maternal antibodies form the mothers milk (colostrum) will neutralize the vaccine and only 30% for puppies will be protected. 100% will be exposed to the virus at the vet clinic.

Corona
Not recommended.
1.) Disease only affects dogs <6 weeks of age.
2.) Rare disease: TAMU has seen only one case in seven years.
3.) Mild self-limiting disease.
4.) Efficacy of the vaccine is questionable.

Leptospirosis
Not recommended
1) There are an average of 12 cases reported annually in California.
2) Side effects common.
3) Most commonly used vaccine contains the wrong serovars. (There is no cross-protection of serovars) There is a new vaccine with 2 new serovars. Two vaccinations twice per year would be required for protection.).
4) Risk outweighs benefits.

Lyme
Not recommended
1) Low risk in California.
2) 85% of cases are in 9 New England states and Wisconsin.
3) Possible side effect of polyarthritis from whole cell bacterin.

Boretella
(Intranasal)
(killed) Only recommended 3 days prior to boarding when required.
Protects against 2 of the possible 8 causes of kennel cough.
Duration of immunity 6 months.

Giardia
Not recommended
Efficacy of vaccine unsubstantiated by independent studies

There are two types of vaccines currently available to veterinarians: modified-live vaccines and inactivated ("killed") vaccines.

Immunization Schedules

There is a great deal of controversy and confusion surrounding the appropriate immunization schedule, especially with the availability of modified-live vaccines and breeders who have experienced postvaccinal problems when using some of these vaccines. It is also important to not begin a vaccination program while maternal antibodies are still active and present in the puppy from the mother's colostrum. The maternal antibodies identify the vaccines as infectious organisms and destroy them before they can stimulate an immune response.

Many breeders and owners have sought a safer immunization program.

Modified Live Vaccines (MLV)

Modified-live vaccines contain a weakened strain of the disease causing agent. Weakening of the agent is typically accomplished by chemical means or by genetic engineering. These vaccines replicate within the host, thus increasing the amount of material available for provoking an immune response without inducing clinical illness. This provocation primes the immune system to mount a vigorous response if the disease causing agent is ever introduced to the animal. Further, the immunity provided by a modified-live vaccine develops rather swiftly and since they mimic infection with the actual disease agent, it provides the best immune response.

Inactivated Vaccines (Killed)

Inactivated vaccines contain killed disease causing agents. Since the agent is killed, it is much more stable and has a longer shelf life, there is no possibility that they will revert to a virulent form, and they never spread from the vaccinated host to other animals. They are also safe for use in pregnant animals (a developing fetus may be susceptible to damage by some of the disease agents, even though attenuated, present in modified-live vaccines). Although more than a single dose of vaccine is always required and the duration of immunity is generally shorter, inactivated vaccines are regaining importance in this age of retrovirus and herpesvirus infections and concern about the safety of genetically modified microorganisms. Inactivated vaccines available for use in dogs include rabies, canine parvovirus, canine coronavirus, etc.

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Note: This schedule is the one I recommend and should not be interpreted to mean that other protocols recommended by a veterinarian would be less satisfactory. It's a matter of professional judgment and choice. For breeds or families of dogs susceptible to or affected with immune dysfunction, immune-mediated disease, immune-reactions associated with vaccinations, or autoimmune endocrine disease (e.g., thyroiditis, Addison's or Cushing's disease, diabetes, etc.) the above protocol is recommended.

After 1 year, annually measure serum antibody titers against specific canine infectious agents such as distemper and parvovirus. This is especially recommended for animals previously experiencing adverse vaccine reactions or breeds at higher risk for such reactions (e.g., Weimaraner, Akita, American Eskimo, Great Dane).

Another alternative to booster vaccinations is homeopathic nosodes. This option is considered an unconventional treatment that has not been scientifically proven to be efficacious. One controlled parvovirus nosode study did not adequately protect puppies under challenged conditions. However, data from Europe and clinical experience in North America support its use. If veterinarians choose to use homeopathic nosodes, their clients should be provided with an appropriate disclaimer and written informed consent should be obtained.

I use only killed 3 year rabies vaccine for adults and give it separated from other vaccines by 3-4 weeks. In some states, they may be able to give titer test result in lieu of booster.

I do NOT use Bordetella, corona virus, leptospirosis or Lyme vaccines unless these diseases are endemic in the local area pr specific kennel. Furthermore, the currently licensed leptospira bacterins do not contain the serovars causing the majority of clinical leptospirosis today.

I do NOT recommend vaccinating bitches during estrus, pregnancy or lactation.

W. Jean Dodds, DVM
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Dr. Dodds vaccination protical is what my vet recommends and I follow. I administer my own vaccines and prolong the rabies as long as I can. My recommendation to my new families is 6 or 7 months of age.
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Thank you for this...so it looks like the *main* change was in Distemper, is that correct? [going from the "every 3yrs (compromise)" to "None Needed"]
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No, it's been that way after the year booster, nothing was needed. But, in speaking to my vet having tithers (and I'm not sure if that's spelled correctly) done every so often will evaluate your dog's immunity level. Now as we all know that just because the dog has been vaccinated it doesn't mean they can contract Parvo, etc.
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No, it's been that way after the year booster, nothing was needed. But, in speaking to my vet having tithers (and I'm not sure if that's spelled correctly) done every so often will evaluate your dog's immunity level. Now as we all know that just because the dog has been vaccinated it doesn't mean they can contract Parvo, etc.
That was for Parvo, I think, which said 7.5/none needed (2003? or 2006? AAHA). But I believe the previous chart stated "Compromise/AAHA" and "every 3 yrs" for Distemper. I could be wrong, but that's what I remember the chart saying. Titers can give information as to whether a dog has ever been vaccinated, but doesn't really say much about cellular immunity.

A dog can show zero antibodies (humoral immunity), but actually have cellular immunity.
A dog can show having humoral immunity (the antibodies), but have no cellular immunity.
So, all titers reallllly do is help to confirm whether a dog has been vaccinated.
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Here is Dr. Rogers' schedule, which was pretty much identical to Dodd's until this update...so this is what I mean by every 3 years: http://www.critteradvocacy.org/Canin...0Guidlines.htm
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That was for Parvo, I think, which said 7.5/none needed (2003? or 2006? AAHA). But I believe the previous chart stated "Compromise/AAHA" and "every 3 yrs" for Distemper. I could be wrong, but that's what I remember the chart saying. Titers can give information as to whether a dog has ever been vaccinated, but doesn't really say much about cellular immunity.

A dog can show zero antibodies (humoral immunity), but actually have cellular immunity.
A dog can show having humoral immunity (the antibodies), but have no cellular immunity.
So, all titers reallllly do is help to confirm whether a dog has been vaccinated.
I administered vaccinations on puppies by 2 different manufactures....did titers showed one without immunity and the other with adequate immunity. Whether or not it had to do with the manufacturer....I'm not sure.

I'll do a comparison on the past chart I have and this one.....you could be right.

What I found interesting is that she does reference California, but then again since she's in Santa Monica that's why.
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I administered vaccinations on puppies by 2 different manufactures....did titers showed one without immunity and the other with adequate immunity. Whether or not it had to do with the manufacturer....I'm not sure.
This explains titer results better than I ever can :

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This explains titer results better than I ever can :

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I've got this, thanks.

I wish that more people would take an active interest/participation in vaccinations in immunizations. Some and I was guilty of this in the past, blindly do whatever a vet tells them. I've been lucky with my vets, here and in Texas, both followed Dr. Dodds protocol and both worked with me when I began doing my own vaccinations.

I usually put a chart in my puppy books when I send pups home, but that doesn't mean it'll be followed.
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I've got this, thanks.

I wish that more people would take an active interest/participation in vaccinations in immunizations. Some and I was guilty of this in the past, blindly do whatever a vet tells them. I've been lucky with my vets, here and in Texas, both followed Dr. Dodds protocol and both worked with me when I began doing my own vaccinations.

I usually put a chart in my puppy books when I send pups home, but that doesn't mean it'll be followed.
I agree so much! I'm on my 4th or 5th vet here - and it is only a couple months ago that this final vet actually follows Dodd -- can you believe that? All other vets I saw were very confrontational over me *not* wanting to overvaccinate MY dogs.
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I agree so much! I'm on my 4th or 5th vet here - and it is only a couple months ago that this final vet actually follows Dodd -- can you believe that? All other vets I saw were very confrontational over me *not* wanting to overvaccinate MY dogs.
There was an article a couple of years back on her new protocol, stating that most vets really pushed for their way of vaccinating....the financial thing. My feeling is that our vets are like our physicians. We take an active roll in our physical well being when we're seeing a doctor, why not with our vet. I can understand their having to follow the state regulations for rabies (and I'm glad that that is being looked into too), but when it comes to the other vaccines then I'm gonna speak up, after all it's my dog.
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I'm on the fence about titers because they really don't show the whole picture.
They may be okay if you don't want to vaccinate every year but there is still quite a bit of room for overvaccinating because they don't show cellular immunity. Besides, humoral immunity does automatically drop as time passes from getting the vaccine. That is normal.

This is what has happened with Ellie and should explain why titers are not the answer all of the time:
Vaccinated for too many things (including distemper) in 2006
Titered (parvo and distemper) 2007
Parvo fine. Distemper too low (1:16)
Boostered distemper
Titered (parvo and distemper) 2008
Parvo falling but okay. Distemper 1:32 consider booster by 2009.
She most likely did respond to the distemper vaccine because the titer did go up. It is still quite low though. Do I revaccinate because a titer says so or do I go with what makes sense and trust that she is protected for at least 3-7 years? I for one don't believe that a Yorkie needs distemper every other year, so we will see. The point is, we can't see her cellular immunity, so I am even more stuck then if I would have just chosen the AAHA 3-year protocol.
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I'm on the fence about titers because they really don't show the whole picture.
They may be okay if you don't want to vaccinate every year but there is still quite a bit of room for overvaccinating because they don't show cellular immunity. Besides, humoral immunity does automatically drop as time passes from getting the vaccine. That is normal.

This is what has happened with Ellie and should explain why titers are not the answer all of the time:
Vaccinated for too many things (including distemper) in 2006
Titered (parvo and distemper) 2007
Parvo fine. Distemper too low (1:16)
Boostered distemper
Titered (parvo and distemper) 2008
Parvo falling but okay. Distemper 1:32 consider booster by 2009.
She most likely did respond to the distemper vaccine because the titer did go up. It is still quite low though. Do I revaccinate because a titer says so or do I go with what makes sense and trust that she is protected for at least 3-7 years? I for one don't believe that a Yorkie needs distemper every other year, so we will see. The point is, we can't see her cellular immunity, so I am even more stuck then if I would have just chosen the AAHA 3-year protocol.

Please take this with a grain of salt - my guess is that Ellie May is protected for both Distemper and Parvo, but with her compromised immune system, continued vaccination only has the ability to make everything worse. Personally, I would not continue to vaccinate, but go with what makes sense and based on all the new protocols - that is a minimum of 7 year protection.

With Sissy's early stage PLE, I'm not vaccinating again. In fact, she is due for Rabies this year - but I'm asking the vet to hold off until I see more normal blood test results. I'm very fortunate that my vet agrees with Dr. Dodd's protocol and DOES NOT recommend titers since they do not adequately tell the whole story.
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She most likely did respond to the distemper vaccine because the titer did go up. It is still quite low though. Do I revaccinate because a titer says so or do I go with what makes sense and trust that she is protected for at least 3-7 years?
Ellie May,

Below is a copy of a quote from Dr. Ronald Schultz about the vaccination protocol he follows with his own dogs and his family's dogs. He has told me that if he gets any positive antibody result in titers for the MLV's (even a low one), he never vaccinates again. What Everyone Needs to Know about Canine Vaccines, Dr. Ronald Schultz
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My own dogs, those of my children and grandchildren are vaccinated with MLV CDV, CPV-2, CPI, andCAV-2 vaccines once as puppies after the age of 12 weeks. An antibody titer is performedtwo or more weeks later and if found positive our dogs are never again vaccinated. I have usedthis vaccination program with modifications (CAV-2 replaced CAV-1 vaccines in 1970's and CPV-2 vaccines were first used in 1980) since 1974! I have never had one of our dogs develop CDV,CAV-1 or CPV-2 even though they have had exposure to many dogs, wildlife and to virulent CPV-2 virus. You may say that I have been lucky, but it is not luck that protects my dogs, it is immunologic memory.
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Ellie May,

Below is a copy of a quote from Dr. Ronald Schultz about the vaccination protocol he follows with his own dogs and his family's dogs. He has told me that if he gets any positive antibody result in titers for the MLV's (even a low one), he never vaccinates again. What Everyone Needs to Know about Canine Vaccines, Dr. Ronald Schultz
What Everyone Needs to Know About Canine Vaccines

My own dogs, those of my children and grandchildren are vaccinated with MLV CDV, CPV-2, CPI, andCAV-2 vaccines once as puppies after the age of 12 weeks. An antibody titer is performedtwo or more weeks later and if found positive our dogs are never again vaccinated. I have usedthis vaccination program with modifications (CAV-2 replaced CAV-1 vaccines in 1970's and CPV-2 vaccines were first used in 1980) since 1974! I have never had one of our dogs develop CDV,CAV-1 or CPV-2 even though they have had exposure to many dogs, wildlife and to virulent CPV-2 virus. You may say that I have been lucky, but it is not luck that protects my dogs, it is immunologic memory.
Hi Kris . So, Dr. Schultz doesn't do the one-year booster, is that right?

Also, can you confirm what exactly the changes are in Dodd's new schedule...we all weren't exactly sure.

And again, thank you so very much for always keeping us informed here, it is greatly appreciated.
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