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bellasmomok · 11-06-2008, 05:17 PM

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Good!! (I had forgotten you used to be a vet tech!)

I have to admit, before Bella got spayed and before I knew more about it, I wasn't really convinced that pre-op blood work was really all that necessary....I planned to do it anyway since I was so nervous about how she would handle the aneshesia, and I DEFINITELY didn't want to lose my baby over not doing a simple test. Now, however, I'm a BIIIIG proponent of it.....She also is a very healthy little puppy, no symptoms of any kind at all. Other than her tearing (which is probably more allergies than anything else), she's perfect! HOWEVER, her pre-op blood work came back with an elevated ALT (302!!)

I'm having her re-tested in 2 weeks, this time with a complete blood chemistry profile, CBC, AND a bile acid test. Hopefully it turns out to be nothing at all, but I'm worried it won't.....

I would suggest you have a bile acid test done on your baby too, before her surgery, especially since liver shunts, etc... are so prevalent in Yorkies. I asked to have Bella's done (after a YT member, maybe Ellie May??, said that all Yorkies ought to be tested for this before surgery) at the same time they were doing the pre-op blood work, but you can't do that test on the same day as the surgery, so I didn't do it. (They take a fasting blood sample--water is ok, and then they take another sample 2 hrs after eating a fatty meal....the after meal draw is why they can't do it on the same day as surgery.) I wish I had known what I know now.....that if you have a bile acid test done before (if it's positive, I think you'd have to have another test done too before to be sure it's really a shunt), you can just have the liver shunt corrected at the same time as the spay....so only under anesthesia once!

BamaFan121s · 11-07-2008, 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Dara311

she came into heat on 11/1, vet said to bring her in on 11/25, which i think is too soon!?

I would have to agree...the 25th sounds like it would be too soon after her heat.

To the best of my knowledge, the general rule is to wait a few months afterwards--a spay so close to her heat cycle puts her at risk to hemoraging suring the procedure.
Also, the vet should do pre-op bloodwork and anesthesia testing.
On a side note, if you little one has any retained baby teeth, it would be a good idea to have them removed as well when she goes in for her spay.

Hugs to your little one...hope she is feeling better soon.

Dara311 · 11-07-2008, 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

I would have to agree...the 25th sounds like it would be too soon after her heat.

To the best of my knowledge, the general rule is to wait a few months afterwards--a spay so close to her heat cycle puts her at risk to hemoraging suring the procedure.
Also, the vet should do pre-op bloodwork and anesthesia testing.
On a side note, if you little one has any retained baby teeth, it would be a good idea to have them removed as well when she goes in for her spay.

Hugs to your little one...hope she is feeling better soon.

thanks. yeah, she just has one retained baby tooth that they are charging me 10.00 for, its her upper k9 tooth- i may just have them wait until the 2nd week of dec. i should make the vet pay for this since he was the one that told me to hold her off, so.......

daisymae2012 · 11-07-2008, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

I would have to agree...the 25th sounds like it would be too soon after her heat.

To the best of my knowledge, the general rule is to wait a few months afterwards--a spay so close to her heat cycle puts her at risk to hemoraging suring the procedure.
Also, the vet should do pre-op bloodwork and anesthesia testing.
On a side note, if you little one has any retained baby teeth, it would be a good idea to have them removed as well when she goes in for her spay.

Hugs to your little one...hope she is feeling better soon.

My vet told me the opposite. He said it is better to get them done relatively soon after they come out of heat while they are still young??? Now, I am confused! Daisy came into heat on October 18 and we have hear spay scheduled for Nov. 20. I am taking her Tuesday next week for her pre-op blood work, so maybe I can talk the vet then.

CupofDog · 11-07-2008, 08:04 AM

If I were you, I would be calling a bunch of vets and asking...This isn't something you want to mess around with!

BamaFan121s · 11-07-2008, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by daisymae2012

My vet told me the opposite. He said it is better to get them done relatively soon after they come out of heat while they are still young??? Now, I am confused! Daisy came into heat on October 18 and we have hear spay scheduled for Nov. 20. I am taking her Tuesday next week for her pre-op blood work, so maybe I can talk the vet then.

The heat cycle last about 3 weeks. If she came into heat on the 18th, then your vet has her scheduled for surgery less than 2 weeks after her estrus period ended.

It IS better to have it done when they are young to prevent accidental litters, but I'm really not so sure about that quickly after the heat cycle...

Dara311 · 11-07-2008, 09:52 AM

I have always been told to spay/neuter your dogs/cats at 6 months old. I was pretty shocked when the vet told me that Fiona would be fine to get done after she was 7 months old.

I'll call my favorite vet I worked with this weekend, and find out what is best for our babies!

daisymae2012 · 11-07-2008, 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dara311

I have always been told to spay/neuter your dogs/cats at 6 months old. I was pretty shocked when the vet told me that Fiona would be fine to get done after she was 7 months old.

I'll call my favorite vet I worked with this weekend, and find out what is best for our babies!

Thanks!! I did call 2 different vets in my area today and they said they did not see a problem with me keeping Daisy's spay as scheduled. They both said she should be perfectly fine to spay on Nov. 20. They also told me they would check her very well next week when I take her in for her pre-op blood work to be on the safe side too.

CupofDog · 11-07-2008, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by daisymae2012

Thanks!! I did call 2 different vets in my area today and they said they did not see a problem with me keeping Daisy's spay as scheduled. They both said she should be perfectly fine to spay on Nov. 20. They also told me they would check her very well next week when I take her in for her pre-op blood work to be on the safe side too.

Glad to hear - keep us up to date!

Dara311 · 11-07-2008, 03:45 PM

Great news!!!!!! Thank you so much for finding that info out. Fiona should be fine then!!!!!

11-07-2008, 08:04 AM	#20
CupofDog YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Washington D.C. Posts: 707	If I were you, I would be calling a bunch of vets and asking...This isn't something you want to mess around with! __________________ Roving dogs do not indicate the civilization or compassion of the society; they betray on the contrary the ignorance and lethargy of its members. -Ghandi

11-07-2008, 09:52 AM	#22
Dara311 YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Delaware Posts: 2,515	I have always been told to spay/neuter your dogs/cats at 6 months old. I was pretty shocked when the vet told me that Fiona would be fine to get done after she was 7 months old. I'll call my favorite vet I worked with this weekend, and find out what is best for our babies! __________________ Mom to Fiona Marie

11-07-2008, 03:45 PM	#25
Dara311 YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Delaware Posts: 2,515	Great news!!!!!! Thank you so much for finding that info out. Fiona should be fine then!!!!! __________________ Mom to Fiona Marie

11-06-2008, 05:17 PM	#16
bellasmomok ♥ love my girls!! ♥ Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: OKC area Posts: 1,140 Blog Entries: 1	^^^ Good!! (I had forgotten you used to be a vet tech!) I have to admit, before Bella got spayed and before I knew more about it, I wasn't really convinced that pre-op blood work was really all that necessary....I planned to do it anyway since I was so nervous about how she would handle the aneshesia, and I DEFINITELY didn't want to lose my baby over not doing a simple test. Now, however, I'm a BIIIIG proponent of it.....She also is a very healthy little puppy, no symptoms of any kind at all. Other than her tearing (which is probably more allergies than anything else), she's perfect! HOWEVER, her pre-op blood work came back with an elevated ALT (302!!) I'm having her re-tested in 2 weeks, this time with a complete blood chemistry profile, CBC, AND a bile acid test. Hopefully it turns out to be nothing at all, but I'm worried it won't..... I would suggest you have a bile acid test done on your baby too, before her surgery, especially since liver shunts, etc... are so prevalent in Yorkies. I asked to have Bella's done (after a YT member, maybe Ellie May??, said that all Yorkies ought to be tested for this before surgery) at the same time they were doing the pre-op blood work, but you can't do that test on the same day as the surgery, so I didn't do it. (They take a fasting blood sample--water is ok, and then they take another sample 2 hrs after eating a fatty meal....the after meal draw is why they can't do it on the same day as surgery.) I wish I had known what I know now.....that if you have a bile acid test done before (if it's positive, I think you'd have to have another test done too before to be sure it's really a shunt), you can just have the liver shunt corrected at the same time as the spay....so only under anesthesia once!