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06-24-2008, 02:28 PM | #1 |
Furbutts = LOVE Donating Member Moderator | Trip to Minnesota: To Use Tick Collar or Not To Use? Another summer - another trip to MN for us and the boys. And, MN has such a high incidence of Lymes. I won't vaccinate but SHOULD I use a tick collar? I know they can be dangerous - esp. if the dog gets them in/near their mouths. I did NOT use one last year (after posing almost this same question) and we were fine - but I know it's risky. What does everyone think?
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06-24-2008, 02:35 PM | #2 |
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| Why a collar instead of a between-the-shoulders product? Wouldn't it be safer?
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06-24-2008, 02:45 PM | #3 |
Furbutts = LOVE Donating Member Moderator | I think I asked the same question last year too - and everyone said: NEITHER! Do you think the btwn-the-shoulders is safer than the collar? And, do you think I should use something vs. nothing for the trip?
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06-24-2008, 07:51 PM | #4 |
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| Those collars make me very nervous. I would not use one unless a better kind has come out. Frontline is good for fleas but for ticks you might have to go with something like Advantix (not Advantage) or the new Frontline prodct (Vetra something or other). The only thing is these contain permethrin and I am not comfortable with it at all. From what I've read, I personally think there are safer pesticides (but maybe not for ticks). Permethrin can make the dog feel like there is something crawling on its skin and it is extremely toxic to cats. I guess if it were me and I was going to be in the woods in Minnesota I might consider using something but if I was going to be in the city I wouldn't. I'm not saying it's smart to skip it though. It really depends on teh area and what your dog can take. Sorry, no help...
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06-24-2008, 10:58 PM | #5 |
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| I'm using frontline plus + a citronella spray, and also avon skin so soft to repell the ticks/sand fleas. we are taking darwin up north in Michigan over 4th of July - I'm having the same worries...nothing seems safe!!! |
06-25-2008, 03:25 AM | #6 | |
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Ellie doesn't get flea/tick preventative at all anymore and I haven't had a problem. She usually stays inside though. Of course if you are staying in a woody area it might be different.
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06-25-2008, 04:43 AM | #7 |
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| I asked my vet about the collars last year when I, too, traveled to MN (I think we discussed this at length then, didn't we? )...anyway, my vet said those collars are absolutely worthless. They don't do ANYTHING. If I were you, I would Frontline them for a month or do nothing at all! I hope you have a great time in Minnesota!!
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06-25-2008, 08:18 AM | #8 | |
Furbutts = LOVE Donating Member Moderator | Quote:
Crystal - we will be up at a lake, in the woods, for 10 days or so. I think it's too late to do Frontline if I was supposed to do it for month or so... I'm clueless on the tick stuff, bc we just don't use it here. I really am conflicted and don't what the heck to do.
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06-25-2008, 08:46 AM | #9 | |
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I think it has failed for ticks quite a bit. I don't think you have to start a between the shoulders product too far in advance. If you want to go with something with permethrin (cringe), I guess I'd try Advantix (cringe again). The only thing is, you may want to use it now while you're at home in case there is a reaction. That wouldn't be fun in the woods a thousand miles from home...
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06-25-2008, 09:00 AM | #10 |
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| Personally, I would use neither and opt instead for Minksheen shampoo right before you go and perhaps again in the middle of the trip for the natural insect repellent benefits. There is also a natural spray on insect repellent made for dogs - I think Happy Tails has one (I'm not sure if I'm remembering correctly). I know that scrapindee and Kathy785 donated a raffle prize that had the natural insect repellent (from essential oils)- perhaps PM one of them.......
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06-25-2008, 09:03 AM | #11 | ||
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06-25-2008, 09:10 AM | #12 |
Furbutts = LOVE Donating Member Moderator | Maybe this: Naturally Safe Flea, Tick & Mosquito Control – SENTRY® Natural Defense™ SENTRY® Natural Defense™ Natural Flea & Tick Squeeze-On for Dogs & Puppies under 15 lbs SENTRY® Natural Defense™ Natural Flea & Tick Squeeze-On for Dogs & Puppies kills fleas, ticks and mosquitoes for up to four weeks, yet it’s safe to use on your dog or puppy and around your family when applied as directed. Each carton contains three monthly applications that feature natural active ingredients such as peppermint oil, cinnamon oil, lemon grass oil and thyme oil.
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06-25-2008, 09:14 AM | #13 | |
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06-25-2008, 09:22 AM | #14 |
Furbutts = LOVE Donating Member Moderator | I think that might be because *any time* essential oils are used, you have to be careful, even in humans. That would be my guess, anyway.
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06-25-2008, 09:22 AM | #15 | |
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http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yor...ck-powder.html You might search Sentry on YT. Above is one thread. Not what I'd want to be dealing with on vacation... It seems any of it can cause reactions. You could try something natural but I don't think you have as good of a guaranee that it will work (otherwise more people would use it). If it were me, I would probably use a natural safe product to keep them under control and brush the dogs thoroughly every few hours. This would be taking a big risk though. If I felt I had to use a chemical, I MIGHT consider Advantix.
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