The Benefits Of A Prey Model Diet

[RawfedYorkieLuv]

ROFL, green tripe smells like cow's poop! But most dogs go nuts over it so I hold my breath, say a prayer and feed.....
My son knows when I'm feeding green tripe because he comes out exclaiming it smells like a horse's barn again! LOL

Originally Posted by dabrat76

I don't get turkey necks (never seen them) but chicken gizzards and hearts are SoCo's favorite BY FAR. Most of his food has to be out for a while so it can get to room temp for his highness... not the gizzards and hearts, that's eaten almost frozen (if we waited too long to take it out before his meal time). He's a big fan of liver but won't touch kidney. This is fine with me since I think they are both gross but kidney is beyond disgusting - it smells like urine, ewwwwwwwwwwwww.

Tara

[Txgurl06]

is buffalo in the same category as beef and chicken?


if i used Grain Free Dog Food, Homemade Dog Food – The Honest Kitchen

then what are some mean items i could use in there?


im afraid to do raw.

[RawfedYorkieLuv]

Hi!
Sorry, I'm not sure that I understand your question.
Buffalo is a meat and protein source just like beef and chicken while chicken belongs to the fowl family and buffalo/beef belongs to the large ungulates family.
I understand about feeling afraid of feeding raw at first; if you're interested then check out all of the postings, you will find that many topics and questions regarding RAW have been addressed here!
I, too was afraid at first! But frankly, now I'd be afraid to feed anything BUT raw!!!
I and other prey model feeders feed whatever kind of meat we can find but chicken seems to be in rotation the most. Venison, rabbit, ostrich are great exotic meats! But whatever you can find at your local butchers/supermarket will do just fine as well!
Hope this helped, if not- just ask away! There's usually somebody hanging around this fun thread to answer!

Nadia

Originally Posted by Txgurl06

is buffalo in the same category as beef and chicken?


if i used Grain Free Dog Food, Homemade Dog Food – The Honest Kitchen

then what are some mean items i could use in there?


im afraid to do raw.

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[Txgurl06]

Originally Posted by RawfedYorkieLuv

Hi!
Sorry, I'm not sure that I understand your question.
Buffalo is a meat and protein source just like beef and chicken while chicken belongs to the fowl family and buffalo/beef belongs to the large ungulates family.
I understand about feeling afraid of feeding raw at first; if you're interested then check out all of the postings, you will find that many topics and questions regarding RAW have been addressed here!
I, too was afraid at first! But frankly, now I'd be afraid to feed anything BUT raw!!!
I and other prey model feeders feed whatever kind of meat we can find but chicken seems to be in rotation the most. Venison, rabbit, ostrich are great exotic meats! But whatever you can find at your local butchers/supermarket will do just fine as well!
Hope this helped, if not- just ask away! There's usually somebody hanging around this fun thread to answer!

Nadia







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lol sorry my dog is allergic to chicken and beef so i was wondering if buffalo should be okay?

[RawfedYorkieLuv]

....not to get into your business, but I too have a dog that was "presumed" to be allergic to chicken and a bunch of other stuff. Those allergy tests were very expensive and at the time I was told that those tests are somewhat unreliable. None the less, I stopped feeding him chicken containing kibble and still he did not get any better at all! Those allergies (if that's even what it is) are often seen with COOKED proteins and heavily supplemented dogs. Also dogs that are taking daily medications like steroids for example like are subject to allergies as the immune system is being suppressed during treatment. Every single time that I have heard of these allergies and the problems that came with them, the dog was suddenly NOT allergic to anything he was being fed once he started to eat prey model. The yahoo board is full of such stories. A species appropriate diet will put the dog back to a healthy, natural state, more times than none, previous health and behavior problems just disappear as the immune system recovers from previous kibble damage.
Feeding those proteins in the RAW form NOT cooked makes all the difference!

Nadia

Originally Posted by Txgurl06

lol sorry my dog is allergic to chicken and beef so i was wondering if buffalo should be okay?

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[Txgurl06]

Originally Posted by RawfedYorkieLuv

....not to get into your business, but I too have a dog that was "presumed" to be allergic to chicken and a bunch of other stuff. Those allergy tests were very expensive and at the time I was told that those tests are somewhat unreliable. None the less, I stopped feeding him chicken containing kibble and still he did not get any better at all! Those allergies (if that's even what it is) are often seen with COOKED proteins and heavily supplemented dogs. Also dogs that are taking daily medications like steroids for example like are subject to allergies as the immune system is being suppressed during treatment. Every single time that I have heard of these allergies and the problems that came with them, the dog was suddenly NOT allergic to anything he was being fed once he started to eat prey model. The yahoo board is full of such stories. A species appropriate diet will put the dog back to a healthy, natural state, more times than none, previous health and behavior problems just disappear as the immune system recovers from previous kibble damage.
Feeding those proteins in the RAW form NOT cooked makes all the difference!

Nadia



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ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh lol all this is confusing me!!! hahaha like i was just about order HK dehydrated raw food (turkey) but now i might be able to do chicken your saying . hahaha i have a headache .. not from you but i have been busy researching all day!

[RawfedYorkieLuv]

Not your headache of course but that you are taking the time to research these important question!
Well, stick with this thread, many great posts by everybody here!
I'm so very proud of this group and our little club!

Originally Posted by Txgurl06

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh lol all this is confusing me!!! hahaha like i was just about order HK dehydrated raw food (turkey) but now i might be able to do chicken your saying . hahaha i have a headache .. not from you but i have been busy researching all day!

[tjdmom]

Ok. This is day 7 and things are going really good. I think I am going to introduce some form of pork over the next day or two, as soon as I can get some at the store. I think I might try pork necks? Not sure what they look like but I've heard of others feeding it so thought I'd try. Not sure how big it is and if it will work for both dogs but I guess when I actually go to the store, it should all fall into place. But I do have one question, I've been feeding chicken in the evening, either a thigh or leg or breast depending on the dog and what I have. I also discovered that they really like gizzards and hearts so I've fed that as breakfast and also along with dinner but can you over do it on those? About how much should they get of that? Since they like it so much, they would eat the whole package I think. Also, I've been feeding the liver too. Sometimes as breakfast, sometimes along with dinner but I heard that you can be careful so not to overdo it. How much is too much? And finally, I know some liver is good but Sasha (my collie) doesn't like it at all. Doesn't she need some? Should I be worried about her not eating it, should I be encouraging it more or just don't worry about it?
Thanks for all your helpful advice!!!!!

[RawfedYorkieLuv]

Good Morning!
Glad to hear all is well! Pork necks are a great chew work out and perfect sized for small breed dogs but it's too bony to feed alone. You should feed organ meat alongside of that or at least within the same day. Or, if you can get some boneless meat of any protein source. The guideline is 80% muscle meat, 10% bone and 10% organ. You *could* overdo the organs which would result in runny poops. But if your dogs seem to be tolerating the amounts you're currently feeding them, then it's just fine!
Some dogs don't like liver and that's ok. He may take to it later on. All organ meat is suitable, doesn't have to a specific one. Too much liver will cause the runs so introduce this gradually and see how the poops get so you'll know how much is too much. You're tweaking!
Another day in prey model dog's paradise!

My little piglets had chicken this morning and something called excalibur from this place;
GreenTripe.Com Main Index
Tripe is pretty much the only thing what prey model feeders will feed ground up as it's extremely difficult to obtain whole! Also, ground up is easier to deal with as tripe is probably the most disgusting thing to feed as it looks horrible and stinks high to heaven!
Nadia

Originally Posted by tjdmom

Ok. This is day 7 and things are going really good. I think I am going to introduce some form of pork over the next day or two, as soon as I can get some at the store. I think I might try pork necks? Not sure what they look like but I've heard of others feeding it so thought I'd try. Not sure how big it is and if it will work for both dogs but I guess when I actually go to the store, it should all fall into place. But I do have one question, I've been feeding chicken in the evening, either a thigh or leg or breast depending on the dog and what I have. I also discovered that they really like gizzards and hearts so I've fed that as breakfast and also along with dinner but can you over do it on those? About how much should they get of that? Since they like it so much, they would eat the whole package I think. Also, I've been feeding the liver too. Sometimes as breakfast, sometimes along with dinner but I heard that you can be careful so not to overdo it. How much is too much? And finally, I know some liver is good but Sasha (my collie) doesn't like it at all. Doesn't she need some? Should I be worried about her not eating it, should I be encouraging it more or just don't worry about it?
Thanks for all your helpful advice!!!!!

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[AngelWorks]

Todays a week for us.

The most profound results are with the older lab, Zack.

When he came back to us with my DS six weeks ago he was very arthritic, his eyes were very cloudy and looking every bit his 14 years.

Three people have commented on the clearing of his eyes and his stiffness is nearly gone. He runs freely and can turn on a dime again.

His poops however are still loose so I'm trying to sort that one out.

Any suggestions?

[JCarlson2004]

Originally Posted by AngelWorks

Todays a week for us.

The most profound results are with the older lab, Zack.

When he came back to us with my DS six weeks ago he was very arthritic, his eyes were very cloudy and looking every bit his 14 years.

Three people have commented on the clearing of his eyes and his stiffness is nearly gone. He runs freely and can turn on a dime again.

His poops however are still loose so I'm trying to sort that one out.

Any suggestions?

It took my kids a few weeks for there poops to even out. I say just give it some time. Your dog had been eating regular food for a very long time. A week is not a very long time. Plus, it takes the body a while to get adjusted to something new but I promise you the end result is sooo worth it! Best of luck to you and CONGRATS on Zack!!

[AngelWorks]

Originally Posted by JCarlson2004

It took my kids a few weeks for there poops to even out. I say just give it some time. Your dog had been eating regular food for a very long time. A week is not a very long time. Plus, it takes the body a while to get adjusted to something new but I promise you the end result is sooo worth it! Best of luck to you and CONGRATS on Zack!!

Cool--thanks for the quick response---I will just keep a watch then on the poop thing.

Milo's poops evened out after a day and a half but then again he was being fed a dehydrated raw and home cooked organics so that's prob why his was so fast. Much less to detox from.

I also found a local butcher to work with. He's so friendly and helpful. He sells a ground organic raw out of his shop but did not put any pressure on me or make me feel bad for wanting to buy my own stuff instead of purchasing his.

He even threw in a bag of free chix rib bones.

[omega]

Originally Posted by AngelWorks

Todays a week for us.

The most profound results are with the older lab, Zack.

When he came back to us with my DS six weeks ago he was very arthritic, his eyes were very cloudy and looking every bit his 14 years.

Three people have commented on the clearing of his eyes and his stiffness is nearly gone. He runs freely and can turn on a dime again.

His poops however are still loose so I'm trying to sort that one out.

Any suggestions?

That's great news! Good for you. Imagine how much better Zack must feel. I'll bet he's a happy boy.

On some dogs it does take a while to even out the BM's. Once they are used to the food, if their stools stay too runny, you might feed a little more bone - that helps to firm up the stools, too.

[omega]

So, to back up to a thread a while back.... I have decided to not give my dogs the heartworm preventative. It is making me a little nervous, but as we said, those companies prey on our fear. My vet is not happy. She thinks every dog should be on it cause the risk is "so" high. I'm not too sure that the risk is that high. I realize it is there, but I guess I'm taking the chance anyway.

I have started my dogs on something called FleaTreats for flea/tick prevention. It's all natural and they say it is guaranteed or your money back... so we'll see. You give them small tablets every day. The dogs think they are treats. It makes a good training treat! My small dogs take one in the morning and one in the evening. My big dog, of course, takes more.

There is just no way I can put those insecticides into my dog's bodies any more. If they stayed on the skin that might be one thing, but of course it gets into their bloodstream.... not good.

[dabrat76]

I understand how you feel, I have been agonizing over it. However, being down at the campground for the summer, while we're not in the woods per se (it's a campground), it's still the country and I know there have been ticks around here, and the mosquitos can be brutal if we get a lot of rain as the terrain is uneven and has lots of areas of standing water. So I decided to give Revolution. It was the one most recommended on here and looks to be the least of all evils to me. We're trying to outdoor train the dogs (SoCo is 95% there, Bailey is at about 0%, but he just got here Saturday) so I can't take a chance as they are outside a lot.