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Old 04-26-2008, 12:05 PM   #1
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Exclamation The Benefits Of A Prey Model Diet

Hi all,
I was asked by lilyorkiemama on another thread to list the benefits specifically on the prey model diet. I know some of my friends here feed pre-made RAW by Nature's Variety, Primal, Bravo and the likes!!!
And those have reported similar positives observed in their Yorkies as well!
But I just wanted to list the aspects of the prey model feeding method!

1.) No nasty doggie smell without constantly bathing baby!

2.) Naturally cleans teeth, no need for tooth brushing or expensive anesthesia induced ( can be dangerous!) teeth scalings/cleanings. Prey model fed dogs have sweet smelling breath, white teeth and no gum disease!

3.) It takes the dog some time to chew/rip at a meaty bone which gives his stomach adequate time to produce
the acids and naturally occurring enzymes aiding in digestion. No need to supplement with enzymes!

4.) Stool volume! Most prey model fed dogs only poop once a day, leaving a small, firm, black pellet behind that does not stink and will decinagrate if left in the yard.

5.) Your dogs are much healthier and those frequent trips to the Vet become virtually non-existent meaning more money in your pocket!

6.) Feeding prey model costs less than premium kibble brands!

7.) Today's dogs have the same exact biochemical make up of gray wolves (dog's ancestor), the digestive tract works the same and is equipped by nature to deal with bacteria. This is how a dog in the wild would eat.

8.) Prey model fed puppies avoid quick and unnatural growth spurts. Runts have a better chance at catching up to their littermates, developing normal.

9.) The ripping, tearing and crunching gives the dog the kind of work out it would never have eating a commercial diet. It develops the jaw, neck and shoulder muscles.

10.) Prey model fed dogs are healthier than their commercial fed counterparts and a lot leaner! Obesity induced illnesses like diabetes are avoided!

11.) Feeding a RAW prey model diet allows the dog to utilize 100% of the proteins and other important nutrients found in raw meat, bones and organs. Cooked and processed food sources are not tolerated well by carnivores in the long run. Feeding supplements is unnatural therefore the outcome is unpredictable.

12.) Healthy, shiny coats and skin.

13.) A happy, healthy, long living, well balanced dog to stay with us for a long time!

These points are about the gist of it. Please feel free to add to the points made, my fellow prey modelers!

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How do you feed it to them without spreading bacteria, etc? I know my chi like to drag is food around. I wouldn't want to make my family sick.
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Dogs should be trained to eat at their spot and NOT be allowed to drag around their food all over the house. Some people feed in the backyard but the following is what I do; I purchased an Xpen (petco). I place an old king size sheet (double up) on the floor in a designated area, in my case; the Arizona room (covered patio) and arrange the Xpen around that sheet. I put each baby inside the pen and hand them each their food and wash my hands (you can wear latex gloves). My dogs are pros now and won't leave anything behind but whatever is left after about 2 hours (they want to take breaks in between) I toss out. I baby wipe each baby's muzzle and feet, put away the Xpen and toss the sheet in my washing machine (no fabric softener) so it can be ready for next feeding. Done. I made my own natural, non toxic disinfectant/cleaner for countertops and such. Part white vinegar and water, little hydrogen peroxide and lemon juice.
I have a 7 year old and the dogs lick him and us all the time, we're still alive! LOL
In these pictures I have used pee pee pads as floor protectant but this didn't work too well as the food got stuck to it, lol. The exposure is also not the best. Taken with my cell phone...

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Old 04-26-2008, 03:03 PM   #5
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Default Primal Raw Diet

Thank you for posting the benefits of feeding a raw diet. I agree 100%. I have just started feeding Primal chicken nuggets to my two Yorkies. age 6. One Primal chicken nugget provides 13 ounces of protein. Should I feed them 1 nugget per meal if I am adding 2T of raw veggies to their meal? They weigh 5.4 lbs each.

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Jane, Primal and other brands are pre-made and formulated to the BARF diet. These ground nuggets/patties already include everything; meat, bone, organ, veggies/fruit, supplements in some cases.
I highly advise you to NOT add any more vegetables to those nuggets as you would be feeding 50% vegetables, something carnivores don't even need and cannot utilize!
None the less, ONE nugget per meal is not enough unless you're feeding sub 2 pounders. Your Yorkies should each be able to eat a least 3 nuggets per feeding twice a day. Are your babies just right or too skinny?


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My babies, age 6, weigh about 5.0 lbs and are losing weight. I was afraid to feed more than 1 nugget for fear it would be too much protein and maybe cause loose stools.

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Omg Only ONE nugget?????

I'm always happy to help clear up misinformation and myths! I'm glad you went and looked for answers! I PM'ed you!



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I have a yorkie, Brooke, that has a brain disease and she is on chemo, which makes her immune surpressed. I am not sure if NV or other raw diets can be fed to her safely. I am homecooking for my dogs and think that it is the safest thing I can do right now. Any info you have will be appreciated!
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Brooke,
Why do you feel that home cooking is the best for you?
Have you done research into the matter yet? Are you worried that your sick baby can't tolerate raw?

I have a dog with an immune disease called Systemic Yeast Infection. It goes beyond just the skin problems. This ailment has crept into his entire body, his organs, his digestive system even his eyes! I feel this was brought on by feeding him the wrong diet for 11 years and giving him annual shots, heart worm prevention, constant meds and flea/tick preventatives. Basically my dog was pumped full of poisons, toxins and pesticides because I listened to the people who should know better: VETS!
Dogs can't properly utilize cooked foods, veggies/fruit, grains. They thrive on proteins in the raw form as they are the same as gray wolves, speaking in terms of evolution. Dogs are carnivores NOT omnivores. Salmonella poisoning and parasite infestation are sentences used by scaremongers who either profit from selling kibble or who do not know anything about RAW because they're inept about RAW feeding or both. Most Vets will not advocate prey model feeding or pre-made even. But I really don't need the approval of somebody who had his nutrition class in college sponsored by Science Diet!
My (now) healthy dogs are living proof that eating the way I feed was how it was meant to be! Thousands of other people around the world are feeding this way and before kibble was invented by greedy people, raw was how dogs were fed! I'm a member of several raw and prey model support groups on yahoo and people on those lists report similar success stories with their dogs and raw. If and before you switch, I highly recommend joining these and doing tons of research. The best website is rawlearning dot com and rawfed dot com
Home cooking is something that I feel is pretty much the same as kibble except that it's now not mystery meat. Nutrients are cooked out. Unnatural supplements are put back in and the dog's digestive system is forced to deal with an onslaught of all the wrong ingredients on a daily basis. I fed grain free kibble and I home cooked. I started raw with the pre-made, ground versions aka NV, Primal etc. I've been feeding prey model for a year now and would never go back to pre-made, but I do think it's a great way to get started and to make the switch easier for baby and momma! Especially sick dogs will detox in the beginning but that's nothing to fear but something to embrace! It's proof that positive things are ahead for the dog!
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Brooke is the Yorkie in question, not mom!
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What I meant to say was; dogs should NOT be allowed to drag their RAW, meaty bones all over the house as that's gross and we wanna keep those meat juices nice and neatly contained into a manageable area which we can then clean!


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So they eat chicken legs twice a day?

Anything else?

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Hi all,
I was asked by lilyorkiemama on another thread to list the benefits specifically on the prey model diet. I know some of my friends here feed pre-made RAW by Nature's Variety, Primal, Bravo and the likes!!!
And those have reported similar positives observed in their Yorkies as well!
But I just wanted to list the aspects of the prey model feeding method!
Yay for this!! Love to see more prey model education, keep it comin'!
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No, this was just an example of the menu. My dogs have been through all of the meats and organs so now I feed whatever I can get, whatever is on sale, whatever I can kill that doesn't get away from me, lol (joking!)
Here it goes;
Organ meats and parts of animals: Green unbleached tripe, trachea, gullet, spleen, liver, kidneys, pancreas, heart, gizzards, tongue, feet, chicken parts, turkey parts.... beef, pork, lamb, goat, rabbit (they didn't care for that too much), fish, eggs. Soon I will be feeding deer, bear, caribou and wild fresh sockeye salmon as we are planning a trip to Alaska to visit some family. I have fed ostrich and buffalo before. It's expensive and counts as the more exotic meats that are not very often in rotation. Last night they had beef riblets for dinner and a side of pork kidneys. This morning they got turkey breast pieces and a bit of beef heart. Each dog is different and has different needs, which is something that comes to light when switching to prey model. My senior dog can't handle too much bone (constipation) and needs a little extra organ meats. My puppy is very tiny and I have to cut into the meaty bone with a knife so she'll be able to get anything off, she'll get stronger over time though! My 1 year old can't handle too much pork fat or chicken skin or she'll vomit, the other dogs have no issue with that. This is normal, other raw feeder report similar quirks. This and other topics of prey model is what we raw feeders discuss on the other forums. Of course, where to score bargain meat is on top of every prey model feeder's list. I have purchased a 18 pound turkey for 29 cents per pound recently. Between 3 Yorkies, I feed about 20 pounds of food a month. This turkey has been cut up in more manageable pieces and frozen to store in my Yorkie's freezer. The other day my butcher gave me 4 pounds each of chicken gizzards and livers for free! Pork necks were on sale at my local ethnic supermarket for 46 cents per pound. And so on and so forth. I scout the meat sale sections every week, some people only have time to do so once a month. I stock up on what's on sale, sometimes I just buy what's not on sale because I want my dogs to eat a certain animal or cut.
There are also ways to feed this way while you're away from your house! We are currently at our weekend condo in Mexico and I feed them their customary diet here just the same. It takes a little more planning and prep work but it can be done! My dog's health comes before my own convenience, that's for sure!
Thanks for asking and thank you for your interest!!!!
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