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Old 04-28-2008, 11:22 AM   #46
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I just wanted to say that my collie has always had a very sensitive tummy. I'll never forget the time we were camping with my sister and bil and he felt sorry for her so he fed her all the leftovers from breaksfast. Mostly leftover eggs. Needless to say, the tent was a mess. I've always been so careful about what I give her but decided to try this cold turkey. I'm not saying that you will have the same results but wouldn't it be nice?


Also, for you other experienced raw feeders.... I was just thinking about this, we have a camp we go to some weekends and bringing raw would probably not be feasible. What do you guys do in situations like this? Any suggestions?
I just got bak from shopping and I'm totally going to try it.

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The lab just spent the last 18 months with my DS while he was going to school and living with his father.

He came back bloated, stiff and I found out they were over feeding him IAMS.

I had at least been home cooking for him and supplementing with organs.

Ugh.

I bought some lamb ribs, chix thighs and chix legs. That was all I could find that was organic for them.

I would think a dedicated cooler just for their raw and packed all around with ice would work for a couple days?
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Confused Traveling with prey model!

While we don't go camping (had enough of that as a kid, lol), we do take our dogs on all day trips/vacations and just got back from one late last night. Wherever you go, as long as there's a freezer/fridge combo, at least a fridge, then all is good! You can take your dog's rations with you solid frozen and keep them in an insulated ice box with gel packs. Even thawed out completely (as long as it's kept cool) meat is alright and should be alright for at least 3-4 days. You can always feed freeze dried which is ok in a pinch, or use dehydrated meat. For example, I bought a dehydrator and now make my own training treats at home vs. having to buy those.
We have a little weekend condo in Mexico and go there at least once a month. Not only do I take our own food supplies with us but the dog's too! I eyeball how much I'll be needing and take everything frozen solid. I keep an extra Xpen/old sheets at our condo and just feed them on the patio. I let them eat at the beach before but somehow sand got all over it and the having to ignore the onlookers was just awkward! Most of us prey model feeders live in the closet , lol. That should change!!!!!!!
Many prey model folks just feed in the backyard on grass, I just never liked that idea.....


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Also, for you other experienced raw feeders.... I was just thinking about this, we have a camp we go to some weekends and bringing raw would probably not be feasible. What do you guys do in situations like this? Any suggestions?
I rarely need to leave my dogs, and we're pretty much homebodies; but, I'd already decided if I need to leave mine again, I'll try to find the pre-packaged with the LEAST amount of veggies/fruit. This way, their care givers will not be nervous, and they will still be (somewhat) on raw. If I were traveling, or camping, I think I'd take a small cooler, and take along a frozen supply.
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Smile She did it!!!!!!!!!! She plunged!!!!!!!

LOL, I got so excited when you said you were going out to buy meat for your critters!!!!
Packed in ice should be fine.
I broke down and finally purchased an upright freezer for my Yorkies, "The Yorkie Freezer", lol
I found it for less than half of the new price on craigslist from a lady whom accidentally had two delivered and the store was too lazy to go and pick up the extra! I have it on my covered patio.

Well, your precious Lab will thank you with good health now! The bigger the dog, the bigger the cuts should be as we don't want them to swallow the RBM's whole; they should spend time on crunching, chewing, ripping, tearing! Easy on the organ meats in the beginning. You should be able to feel the dog's ribs-not see them.

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I just got bak from shopping and I'm totally going to try it.

*runs to join the club*

The lab just spent the last 18 months with my DS while he was going to school and living with his father.

He came back bloated, stiff and I found out they were over feeding him IAMS.

I had at least been home cooking for him and supplementing with organs.

Ugh.

I bought some lamb ribs, chix thighs and chix legs. That was all I could find that was organic for them.

I would think a dedicated cooler just for their raw and packed all around with ice would work for a couple days?
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LOL, I got so excited when you said you were going out to buy meat for your critters!!!!
Packed in ice should be fine.
I broke down and finally purchased an upright freezer for my Yorkies, "The Yorkie Freezer", lol
I found it for less than half of the new price on craigslist from a lady whom accidentally had two delivered and the store was too lazy to go and pick up the extra! I have it on my covered patio.

Well, your precious Lab will thank you with good health now! The bigger the dog, the bigger the cuts should be as we don't want them to swallow the RBM's whole; they should spend time on crunching, chewing, ripping, tearing! Easy on the organ meats in the beginning. You should be able to feel the dog's ribs-not see them.

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I'm weirdly excited for feeding time tonight.

When my son moved out I sent him with lit from the vet and a pic of a healthy weight dog with a "waist".

Alas, they think a healthy dog is an over stuffed dog.

At his age, any extra weight is a terrible burden for him and shortens his time on earth playing fetch and snoring in front of the fire.
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and without other useless crud; Primal Frozen Grind Chubs
Just ground meat, bone and organ!


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Dogs, unlike humans will not complain about; "Chicken for dinner-AGAIN!!!???" LOL
Sorry, you must never have met SoCo, the picky dog! If we feed chicken too many meals in a row he takes longer and longer to eat until he just won't eat chicken. We have to switch him to something he likes better like gizzards & hearts or pork. Then he'll start eating the chicken again.

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and without other useless crud; Primal Frozen Grind Chubs
Just ground meat, bone and organ!
Bummer... I wish I read this thread before I bought Nature's Variety. I bought a bunch of other stuff that was recommended at the petstore that I probably don't need.
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...as you might be able to return you NV for either a cash refund or store credit you can then use for something else!
Depending on where you bought your supplies, they may even offer you a refund on OPEN bags of food! The Pet Store where I sometimes buy my freeze dried from has a great store policy; "If you ain't satisfied with anything you purchased here, return it for a full refund or store credit"!



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Yeah, them Yorkies sure have quirks, don't they! My Gia won't eat any heart unless it's cut up a bit, she's afraid of it whole! LOL. Toy wants me to sit and watch him eat for a while! NEITHER likes rabbit and the puppy Mahli loves the bones the other dogs had instead of her own and tries to steal theirs!



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Sorry, you must never have met SoCo, the picky dog! If we feed chicken too many meals in a row he takes longer and longer to eat until he just won't eat chicken. We have to switch him to something he likes better like gizzards & hearts or pork. Then he'll start eating the chicken again.

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NEITHER likes rabbit
Mine won't have anything to do with rabbit, either. I think maybe too 'gamey' for them. Anyway, since I can't hunt for them, I'm saying thank goodness they don't like rabbit, because it is pri$ey in the stores!
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Okay~ first meal fed.

Zack, the lab, had a chix thigh and a lamb rib.
He was all shy at first and ate the thigh in a few munch & crunches. Had to be chided to eat the lamb but did so with gusto.

Milo had a lamb rib. He ate a bit more than half. He never questioned it, just started right in. He then asked to go out and came back in and curled up and is still napping.

Interesting thing, this is Milo's usual manic time of the day waiting for daddy.

So far so good.
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I would be interested in how much you feed a small Yorkie and what you feed on a weekly basis - if anyone is interested in posting. That would be a great start for me.
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I would be interested in how much you feed a small Yorkie and what you feed on a weekly basis - if anyone is interested in posting. That would be a great start for me.
While I'm still in learning stages here.... I have been told 2-3% of adult weight per day.
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How much does your dog weigh currently? Would you say that your baby is over or under weight? Or just right?
Traditionally it's been advised to feed 2-3% of your dog's estimated healthy weight. I find this guideline more useful for large breed dogs however not so much for my Yorkies as they eat more than those %'s but are NOT fat! Prey Model feeders often refer to this question as "tweaking". Tweaking a dog's diet until it's just right where the dog doesn't get fat from it nor gets skinny. I also don't feed the same amounts every day as prey model fed dogs do what's called "self regulating". They voluntarily will not eat anything for a day or so (once a week, more or less) to give the digestive system a rest. This is normal behavior and is linked to the behavior of carnivore pack animal's in the wild as it's been observed there as well. I let my dogs guide me as to how much because oddly enough, since Toy eats this way, he never over eats. He eats what he needs and leaves the rest so that's how I figured out which amounts are just right for him to consume in one sitting! With kibble, I could've fed him all day and he probably would've just tipped over like a pig! LOL
My Toy is 10 pounds and he typically eats one chicken drumstick completely and a side of (a quarter of a yoghurt cup) chicken livers for breakfast. For dinner he can put away one pork rib with another tiny serving of beef kidney or green tripe. Gia is 5.5 pounds and she will leave a little of her drumstick and she gets less organ meats. Mahli is 23 ounces and all she can consume in one sitting is maybe half the size of a human thumb (sorry for the comparison, I couldn't think of anything else , lol) and her organs serving is like a thimble full. Not so active dogs will eat less I suppose, but my dogs are very active and get walked 3 times a day for 30 minutes or so each time while the tiny one gets carried a lot of course, she'll never be able to keep up with the rest as she's not expected to even reach 2 pounds fully grown! In the summer it gets brutally hot here in Arizona and I'm putting them on a threadmill this year!


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