The Benefits Of A Prey Model Diet

[abbie's mom]

Originally Posted by YorkieChick1

She is just so excited for it that I think she tries to eat too fast! I've never seen her excited for food like that before!

You know....y'all may just think I'm overly emotional, or melodramatic about this whole thing; but, I'm hearing this a lot, and it just makes me weep, for joy. Yes....literally, weep. And, I so regret that I did not know about PMR, sooner for my Mr. Mozart. Yes, that's what it is, don't worry. She just thinks she's dreaming, or that this is a rare occurrence. Once she learns that THIS is her diet, she'll slow down and regulate. Also, try giving her larger pieces, that she must take time with, to work at.

I also got a deal at Safeway yesterday, they have the Foster Farm's chicken breast, thighs and legs at $.99/lb!! How long can you keep the meat frozen? I bought a bunch and split it into baggies for their daily rations.

....... Exciting, huh?! Again, dogs are not people, and freezer burn does not affect them. Though, if you have a good freezing system (food saver) that will keep it longer, that is optimum. And, if you find they turn their noses up after it's been frozen several weeks, then you'll know - they just don't 'do' freezer burn. But, if you shop for bargains (be careful of 'enhanced' meats!), it hurts a lot less when they refuse it! LOL

Love your piccies! You should add them to the PMR album, here!

[RawfedYorkieLuv]

Pure joy! I'm so excited and happy to see those pictures!

Spread the word! K*bble must die! Vets are having to cave in to the pressure from people like us who are raising healthy animals!

My friend and her 3 morbidly obese/sick cats just made the switch 14 weeks ago after she read and listened to the facts and get ready for this, guys; Squiggy, the diabetic feline is HAS LOST 6 POUNDS and his insulin dosage has been adjusted down to a minimum as of yesterday! She's hoping he'll eventually fully recover from type II diabetes (the other two kitties were saved from further damage and are now at a healthy weight)!!!! I was given the happy news and the following story earlier today;
My friend's vet was very pleased but seemed oddly surprised with the progress and asked her if she needed another prescription for the Hill's RX crap when my friend replied that she's been feeding prey model raw and that's the reason for the great progress, therefore *Pet Crack* was not needed any longer! The vet argued that the cat was just responding really well to the insulin therapy!( Please note; all of her cats have been eating Hill's k*bble their entire lives!) What followed is a great, somewhat funny and true story as I know my friend real well and we initially clicked due to similar personalities so I KNOW she actually did this; this vet (a woman-to clear up any "she" confusions) urged my friend to make an appointment for the other two cats, wanting to evaluate them as she was worried about what this *new* diet could've done to them! My friend agreed () but instead of her cats, she drove the leftover bag of k*bble she kept just in case, over to the vet's office and exclaimed to the entire waiting room that this stuff almost killed her cats and that since she's feeding raw, the cats are recovering! Oh, I should also mention that the bag of k*bble had a copy of the Veterinarian Oath stapled onto it! LOL. Needless to say that my friend is now seeing a Holistic Veterinarian who understands that cats are obligate carnivores- NOT rabbits.....

Originally Posted by YorkieChick1

I forgot to post some photos:
#1 Brooke with her drumstick bone
#2 Another shot of Brooke
#3 Baby with his drumstick
#4 Bitsy trying to sweet talk Baby into giving her his bone!

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[RawfedYorkieLuv]

Yep, I also got in on that deal at my local Safeway!!!



[quote=YorkieChick1;1976949] I also got a deal at Safeway yesterday, they have the Foster Farm's chicken breast, thighs and legs at $.99/lb!!quote]

[cococalypso]

The dogs got livers and gizzards for breakfast this morning and a leftover chicken leg from the cat, who does not seem too keen on this like the dogs were. DANG! The dogs are done with k*bble now though. I don't think they would really eat it anyway now. I think it will take some work with Miss Sophia the kitty. :cat

[abbie's mom]

Originally Posted by RawfedYorkieLuv;1977570 [B

Squiggy, the diabetic feline is HAS LOST 6 POUNDS and his insulin dosage has been adjusted down to a minimum as of yesterday! She's hoping he'll eventually fully recover from type II diabetes (the other two kitties were saved from further damage and are now at a healthy weight)!!!![/b]

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[omega]

Originally Posted by tortoisekeeper

My babies have had raw for there last 3 meals now. They are eating the chicken leg meat but won't eat the bone. Do you just keep giving them back the bone until they eat it?

Betty

At first I smashed the bone little bit with a hammer and that did the trick. I don't have to do that any more.

[AngelWorks]

Originally Posted by cococalypso

The dogs got livers and gizzards for breakfast this morning and a leftover chicken leg from the cat, who does not seem too keen on this like the dogs were. DANG! The dogs are done with k*bble now though. I don't think they would really eat it anyway now. I think it will take some work with Miss Sophia the kitty. :cat

It took a couple days with one of my cats too.

[abbie's mom]

Originally Posted by cococalypso

The dogs got livers and gizzards for breakfast this morning and a leftover chicken leg from the cat,

....great! Watch out for organ portions, though! Too much offal = cannon bum! Mine got too much gizzard yesterday, and they both had loose stool.

The dogs are done with k*bble now though. I don't think they would really eat it anyway now.

....... .....I think you're right. This is pretty much the pattern once they get a taste of real food. They can now smell and determine the difference in fresh meat and the rancid by-products and fat that are sprayed on the k*bble to entice the dog to eat it.

[RawfedYorkieLuv]

Grrrrrr, I chopped in half yet another cutting board yesterday!!!!
It's not like I'm trying to hack a buffalo carcass in half; just dismembered a whole chicken....my poultry shears are fine, just getting faster results with the cleaver!
The cleaver that I'm using is just a run of the mill kind (Farberware $9 @ Walmart) and it keeps breaking my polythyrene cutting boards! Because it's a cheap one, it might not be balanced right
I am seriously thinking about investing in a wooden chopping block, which I KNOW will hold up to the job!

Oh, on the flip side; hubby has a client who's the head butcher at a local grocery store. This very nice man (my new best friend, lol) is bringing us a big bag full of goodies this afternoon and I'm soooo grateful! Thank Goodness, I have an extra freezer!!! I'm hoping to score some nice lamb meat and organs as this can get pricey!
Jeez, I'm starting to feel like a meat hoarder, rofl.

Happy Saturday everyone!
P.S. have you noticed how many times our ever growing thread has been viewed yet!!!??? After all this time, it's still on top of the list!

Nadia
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[cococalypso]

Boy o boy did I learn the hard way about the gizzards and liver!!! YUCK! Coco let me learn ALL about it on my carpet!! YIKES, I think she ate all of them and didn't leave Maggie any. I think we will wait a bit longer on that again.... Luckily, I am not all that fond of this carpet and we will be tearing it out this summer because there are wood floors underneath anyway. She had been doing so good and no accidents too Oh well, you live you learn. But, on a good note, Maggie's fur is soooo soft feeling now! She's so silky smooth feeling.

[tjdmom]

This is what we've been doing....
In the morning, I give Zoe (yorkie) a small meal. Sometimes it's a gizzard or two, or a heart, or liver or just plain chicken that I have cut off of a boneless breast from our dinner (before I cooked it of course). This makes it a quick meal and not much for me to do and I'm able to have the time to watch her eat since that doesn't take near as long as when a bone is involved. Sometimes I give Sasha(the collie) the same but she's not a big morning eater and by the way, does not like liver at all. At dinner time, they both get something with bone in it and a bigger meal for both. Mostly that has been chicken but I have had 4 or 5 days of pork but after the first day of Sasha having a loose stool, I switched to more like 1/2 pork 1/2 chicken. I have some pork "hocks" no idea just what they are and don't really want to know but thought I would try more pork this week. I also got a really great deal on chicken quarters - only .59/lb. I was excited about that! And the last thing I wanted to mention is about the gizzards and hearts. It is without a doubt, both my dogs favorite thing - especially the hearts I think they would be awesome training treats except for the fact that they are slimey and I don't really like to touch them. Any suggestions for me, am I doing this right so far?

All in all, this has not been nearly as difficult as I thought it would be and it makes me feel so good to see the improvements. One of these days, I will post photo's of Sasha's teeth which look better and better every day!

But I do have one question, someone asked me and I couldn't answer it and had to admit that it had crossed my mind..... If your dogs eats whatever, say chicken, and it has salmonella or something and they get it their hair or their mouth can it be transmitted to you when you kiss them?

[tjdmom]

anyone?

[RawfedYorkieLuv]

Well, I guess anything could happen in theory. No cases have been reported though. Technically, anything food can have salmonella, kibble is no exception! Only because a dog eats kibble, does not mean that his mouth or poop is sterile or sanitary for that matter. Dogs are licking their privates when we may not be aware of it then go over and kiss them. Nobody in my family has ever gotten sick from our dogs licking us and I haven't heard of anybody getting sick from prey model fed dogs. After my dogs are done eating, sometimes there are meat remnants around the mouth and feet so I baby wipe them. I'm not french kissing any animals so I personally am not worried about it. If my dogs feel like planting one on me after feeding, I let them! After all, I have an immune system, too. LOL

Originally Posted by tjdmom

This is what we've been doing....
In the morning, I give Zoe (yorkie) a small meal. Sometimes it's a gizzard or two, or a heart, or liver or just plain chicken that I have cut off of a boneless breast from our dinner (before I cooked it of course). This makes it a quick meal and not much for me to do and I'm able to have the time to watch her eat since that doesn't take near as long as when a bone is involved. Sometimes I give Sasha(the collie) the same but she's not a big morning eater and by the way, does not like liver at all. At dinner time, they both get something with bone in it and a bigger meal for both. Mostly that has been chicken but I have had 4 or 5 days of pork but after the first day of Sasha having a loose stool, I switched to more like 1/2 pork 1/2 chicken. I have some pork "hocks" no idea just what they are and don't really want to know but thought I would try more pork this week. I also got a really great deal on chicken quarters - only .59/lb. I was excited about that! And the last thing I wanted to mention is about the gizzards and hearts. It is without a doubt, both my dogs favorite thing - especially the hearts I think they would be awesome training treats except for the fact that they are slimey and I don't really like to touch them. Any suggestions for me, am I doing this right so far?

All in all, this has not been nearly as difficult as I thought it would be and it makes me feel so good to see the improvements. One of these days, I will post photo's of Sasha's teeth which look better and better every day!

But I do have one question, someone asked me and I couldn't answer it and had to admit that it had crossed my mind..... If your dogs eats whatever, say chicken, and it has salmonella or something and they get it their hair or their mouth can it be transmitted to you when you kiss them?

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[Beach Walker]

My little Missy got SO sick from that Heartworm dose. She is 13 now and I have only given it that once. Never again!

[miss_marley]

I started Marley on a raw diet over a week ago. She's been doing great, she loves it, so far I've been giving her premade chicken patties from Urban Carnivore, and a few chicken necks. When I tried her on beef patties, she threw it up.

Today I was at the grocery store, and I bought her turkey necks (which I broke into smaller chunks), chicken hearts, and chicken gizzards. I put them in the freezer to freeze for a couple days. Are these all good to give her? How often should I give the hearts and gizzards, and how many? What other things can I buy from the grocery store that's good for her?