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04-22-2008, 03:49 PM | #1 |
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| Home Cooking vs. Raw I need some opinions. I have had Jambo on a raw diet since he was 4 months old. He's never really taken to it but still ate his food. After he was neutered, we spoon fed him chicken soup and rice. Since then he has been pickier than ever. I have to put food toppers or something cooked with his raw food for him to eat it. He won't touch dry food anymore. I have run into some vets that are dead set against raw (bacteria etc.). I just want to give my baby the best but of course I want him to enjoy his meals. I am going back and forth on what to do and contemplating home cooking mixed in with dry. I needs some good feedback so I can make a decision. Thanks y'all. |
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04-22-2008, 04:25 PM | #2 |
And Rylee Finnegan Donating Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Metro Detroit, MI
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| By far my favorite is homecooked (but by itself, not mixed with kibble). It is very healthy and there are no down sides to me except getting the recipe right which I would use a nutritionist for. Since homecooked is so good and he likes it, why not just switch over? I see no proof that the raw diet makes an animal live longer and until I do, I see no reason to feed it.
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04-22-2008, 04:30 PM | #3 |
Furbutts = LOVE Donating Member Moderator | I feed raw (NV), but homecooking is wonderful too - so there is nothing wrong with that route - you just have to balance the cal/phos most importantly. Homecooking is extremely healthy if balanced! If you do want to stick w/ raw - what did you try already?
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04-22-2008, 06:01 PM | #4 |
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| I feed raw and I have seen a big difference in Lucy. First, she eats! She was such a picky eater before and now she comes looking for me I've just noticed her coat is a lot shinier this past week so I can't help but think it is from the raw. Her poops are tiny, don't smell and she only goes once a day now. The other thing that I've just noticed is that her eyes don't tear like they used to. Could this be from raw? I can't think of any other thing to attribute it to. I think homecooking and raw are the best! I switched to raw because it fits into our on the go lifestyle very well
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04-23-2008, 05:46 AM | #5 |
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| I enjoy homecooking for my furbabies, and they really enjoy eating If your furbaby isn't taking to raw, could there be a reason? Does he have inappetance all the time? Did you have your baby bile acid tested before beginning the raw diet? This is especially important in yorkies since they are 36 times more likely to have liver shunt/problems than all other breeds combined. Raw diet is not recommended in those cases.
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04-23-2008, 06:07 AM | #6 |
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| Raw vs. Home Cooking First and foremost, raw or homecooking is 100% better then kibble any day! I personally feed my yorkie mix, Ella Bean and my Cavalier King Charles Spaniel a raw diet. However, raw is not right for every pet and every pet owner! Home cooking is a great option as long as you recognize that cooking does remove nutrients and enzymes, so supplements to replace to those nutrients that are cooked out. If you choose to go the home cooking route, I recommend reading the book Whole Pet Diet - its got great recipes and teaches you how to ensure your pup's diet is balanced. (Amazon.com: Whole Pet Diet: Eight Weeks to Great... and if you choose raw feeding check out Dr. Billighurst's book Give a Dog a Bone. There is also a great website BARF Diet - Healthy & Natural Raw Food For Dogs & Cats, Pet Health Care Food & Nutrition Products Supply Online which is very informative. I believe when you make your decision of what route to take with your baby's nutrition, make sure you do you research to eliminate any risk of vitamin deficiency or unbalanced diets. Also, I hear a lot of raw feeders talking about Nature's Variety frozen - great brand, but make sure to look at Primal Pet Foods, their raw is extremely palletable for the pickiest eaters! I use Primal Hope that helps!
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04-23-2008, 08:14 AM | #7 |
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| personally,I am confused myself. mine started out on royal canine, then i heard there were some ingredients in there, not good. so,then i switched to Prarie, which i hear is very good. However, my 4 babies seem to poop more often and i was told they should be poopong Less. then, a wonderful gal on this site yorkiedaze shared some of her receipes with me, but i have to say i havent tried Yet! i just am never sure Which way to Go! raw, home cooked???? they are SO many opinions on this, and i have 3 yorkies, and a maltese, a 2 lb, a 2 4 lbs., and a 7 pounder. im sure not All of them are the same. its so so confusing... thanks everyone.
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04-23-2008, 08:45 AM | #8 | |
And Rylee Finnegan Donating Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Metro Detroit, MI
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My favorite is homecooked because: Kibble is waaaaay over processed and the ingredients aren't high quality. Anything mixed and baked up together with chemicals to preserve it isn't my first choice for Ellie to eat everyday. I also think that dogs don't get enough moisture with kibble. Canned is a bit better because of the moisture content but it is still processed meat in a can. It isn't fresh and the ingredients are in question. Raw works very well for a lot of people but personally I will not take the risk. There are a few dogs with compromised immune systems who cannot handle it and can get very sick. This doesn't happen often but it does happen and there is no real way to figure out if your dog's immune system is compromised. I also will not feed whole bones because of the slight chance that they could puncture the stomach/intestines. I see no reason to take the risk. Homecooked, if done correctly, is extremely healthy and you have control over the ingredients (which you wouldn't if you fed pre-packaged raw). It probably takes the most time but is the best in my opinion. You can even use all organic ingredients if you want.
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04-23-2008, 09:03 AM | #9 |
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| so, are you saying those Marrow bones alot of people like, you wouldnt do? Im not sure if ive ever seen them before. as for the home cooking... do you recommend a specific book for this? im totally "clueless"! thank you.
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04-23-2008, 10:00 AM | #10 | |
And Rylee Finnegan Donating Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Metro Detroit, MI
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I used a nutritionist. I can't recommend a book because I don't really use them and most, if not all, of them aren't accurate.
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04-23-2008, 12:42 PM | #11 | |
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I buy NV, Stella and Chewy's, Primal, as well as Dr. Bamford and Pat McKay recpies by Harmony Farms (fresh meat with organs, veggies etc.). He started on Iams Kibble (previous parents) which I did not like and so I switched him to Royal Canin Puppy. I did research into raw and after he was finished with his little bag of kibble I switched him to raw when he was 4 1/2 months old. When he was eating kibble, his vet prescribed Missing Link as a supplement and Forti Flora to strengthen his digestive system (never had a problem but just being proactive). Once I switched him to raw, I gave him holistic liquid supplements from ESP (Essential Soluble Plantcell): Multi Vitamin Mineral, Immune Building Formula, and Skin-Hair Joint Formula. He is now taking plant cell organic supplements from Flying Bassett Organics as well as Omega 3 and 6 Fish Oil from Kronch along with his raw food. He has just never really devoured the raw food and since his castration, it seems like he wants cooked food more and more. He won't touch kibble now and he was fine with it before I switched him to raw. I have resorted to getting food toppers (dehydrated 100 % chicken/sirloin steak) to mix in with his raw to get him to eat it. I love all the benefits from a raw diet but I also want him to like what he is eating. I just got him a little sister so I want to figure out a good system so I can have them both on it and it will be less difficult with her. | |
04-23-2008, 03:01 PM | #12 |
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| i think im getting more and more confused, and i guess id better talk to my vet. theres just Too many opinions. but i sure thank all of you!
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04-23-2008, 04:12 PM | #13 | |
And Rylee Finnegan Donating Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Metro Detroit, MI
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Then there are vets with an interest in this area who have decided to study further... Hopefully your vet is one of them...
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04-24-2008, 06:18 AM | #14 | |
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Have you thought about feeding raw? I just started mine on Nature's Valley raw medallions and they love it.
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04-24-2008, 06:19 AM | #15 |
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| Sorry! I just reread your post and noticed it said you tried raw...
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