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WidsMom · 02-15-2008, 08:26 AM

Thank you for your suggestion to re-home. However, on the flip side of that is what happens if in the new home the new owners are not as tolerant? Barking can become a trigger for some people whom you'd never suspect to be abusive. A kick, a slap across the muzzle, from people who appear to be model pet lovers. I've personally seen this.

No, re-homing is not an option in this instance. Unless of course, the dog is taken from her because of annoyance barking in her new home. If that's the case, we then have to deal with a traumatic separation, and the depression that follows of both dog, and owner.

It's not something I want to see done. It's not something she wants to do.

WidsMom · 02-15-2008, 08:28 AM

We are working with the coins in a can, and a squirt bottle. The collar failed.

This would be an emergency alternative, surgical intervention.

Thanks again.

hha · 02-15-2008, 08:30 AM

Maybe she should get rid of the yorkie and get a besenji(sp) they're the only dog that doesn't bark..I rehomed my maltese because of the high pitched bark....I thought about the surgery, but, decided real quick no, as I thought it was cruel(after reading up on it)..now, she's in a fantastic home, and that's the main thing..

rontiss1 · 02-15-2008, 08:33 AM

I use a barking collar on my boobah. It doesnt shock the dog but emits a high pitch noise. Boobah has considerably calmed down since using this barking collar. I wouldnt dare use the shock treatment on my dog. Before, boobah got into a dog's face and barked incessantly, non stop. But using this collar has improved it 70%! Gina, on the other hand, barks only when she is annoyed by a larger dog. She is the little one on the right side of the avatar.

MindieRose · 02-15-2008, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by hha

Maybe she should get rid of the yorkie and get a besenji(sp) they're the only dog that doesn't bark..I rehomed my maltese because of the high pitched bark....I thought about the surgery, but, decided real quick no, as I thought it was cruel(after reading up on it)..now, she's in a fantastic home, and that's the main thing..

I think it might be cruel to the person to have to get rid of the dog that is the only thing she has left. She doesnt even have her health anymore. Good Lord let her have her dog at least. She is attatched, I am sure she doesnt want to, or have the ability to just go and get another dog.
I dont think its the main thing. I think people matter too.

ARCHIE · 02-15-2008, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by WidsMom

We are working with the coins in a can, and a squirt bottle. The collar failed.

This would be an emergency alternative, surgical intervention.

Thanks again.

There are several stop barking mechanizims on the market.
I tried the sonar one. I forget the name but any pet store carries
them. It was run by batteries and sat on a counter, table etc and
when the dog barked only he heard a high pitch noise in his ear's
which is suppose to make the dog stop and listen and each time
he barks it happens again. It did not work for Buddy but all dogs
are different. Maybe this yorkie would be more sensitive to it's
sound.

rontiss1 · 02-15-2008, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by TinyBit

Love that!!!

If you don't want your dog to bark...buy a cat!!

THANK YOU!!!!!!

hha · 02-15-2008, 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WidsMom

We are working with the coins in a can, and a squirt bottle. The collar failed.

This would be an emergency alternative, surgical intervention.

Thanks again.

We hired an obedience trainer(15 years experience) for our outside dogs..he did tell us, if there is a problem with barking, put 1/2 water, 1/2 white vinegar and spray that in their eyes..it burns but, wont' hurt them..

hha · 02-15-2008, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by MindieRose

I think it might be cruel to the person to have to get rid of the dog that is the only thing she has left. She doesnt even have her health anymore. Good Lord let her have her dog at least. She is attatched, I am sure she doesnt want to, or have the ability to just go and get another dog.
I dont think its the main thing. I think people matter too.

I said maybe she should get a besneji(that is a dog that doesn't bark), this way, she would still have a dog, but, a quiet one..
The shock collars do work, if the dog is over 5 lbs...my mom ordered one and used it on her morkie, only took one time of knocking him on his butt(he also had the high pitched aggrivating bark), but, now, all she has to do is show it to him and he shuts up.

genie · 02-15-2008, 08:42 AM

I don't have any experience with this procedure so I can't help you there. I do hope that your friend and her dog will be able to stay together and I hope that you will find some answers and HELPFUL comments and not just negative opinions...

rontiss1 · 02-15-2008, 08:43 AM

There was a message I read here about the dog whisperer. Well, the doggie park where I take my two girls, boobah and gina, there are many people who have tried the dog whisperer. Caesar Millan. Some have told me it helped a lot others said it was money down the drain. FYI

BabyFidgette · 02-15-2008, 08:44 AM

I know that if there was a "life or death" reason (and I had no other choice) I'd rather debark Baby then give her away. She is my life, and I wouldn't want to live without her.

Now, with that being said, I know I will never have to deal with that situation so she will never be debarked. If I have to move into an apartment, it will be one that allows pets.

Good luck with your friend/family member. Too bad the assisted living didn't have a "dog" wing.

davis · 02-15-2008, 08:48 AM

Can I ask if the dog is elderly also or is he young? If he is young then he will most likely outlive the lady and still be debarked for life. Is there any chance you could get her a cat to take with her and re-home the dog?

gutu28 · 02-15-2008, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by TinyBit

If you don't want your dog to bark...buy a cat!!

I think comments like this are completely unnecessary. The OP came on here asking for ADVICE on the PROCEDURE..not your opinions on buying dogs and cats. I seem to remember a time when you, too, were ganged up on for your situation. I would like to think that you would have learned from that experience and not act like this towards other members. I guess not, though.

MindieRose · 02-15-2008, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by WidsMom

No, re-homing is not an option in this instance.

It's not something I want to see done. It's not something she wants to do.

I just think this needs to be re-read by some.

I also agree with this:

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I think comments like this (negative ones) are completely unnecessary. The OP came on here asking for ADVICE on the PROCEDURE..not your opinions on buying dogs and cats.

02-15-2008, 08:26 AM	#46
WidsMom Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: USA Posts: 277	Thank you for your suggestion to re-home. However, on the flip side of that is what happens if in the new home the new owners are not as tolerant? Barking can become a trigger for some people whom you'd never suspect to be abusive. A kick, a slap across the muzzle, from people who appear to be model pet lovers. I've personally seen this. No, re-homing is not an option in this instance. Unless of course, the dog is taken from her because of annoyance barking in her new home. If that's the case, we then have to deal with a traumatic separation, and the depression that follows of both dog, and owner. It's not something I want to see done. It's not something she wants to do. __________________ Mom of Haley and Pim!

02-15-2008, 08:28 AM	#47
WidsMom Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: USA Posts: 277	We are working with the coins in a can, and a squirt bottle. The collar failed. This would be an *emergency alternative*, surgical intervention. Thanks again. __________________ Mom of Haley and Pim!

02-15-2008, 08:33 AM	#49
rontiss1 Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Los Angeles,California Posts: 521	I use a I use a barking collar on my boobah. It doesnt shock the dog but emits a high pitch noise. Boobah has considerably calmed down since using this barking collar. I wouldnt dare use the shock treatment on my dog. Before, boobah got into a dog's face and barked incessantly, non stop. But using this collar has improved it 70%! Gina, on the other hand, barks only when she is annoyed by a larger dog. She is the little one on the right side of the avatar. __________________ [COLOR="Red"] :[/COLOR Last edited by rontiss1; 02-15-2008 at 08:35 AM. Reason: addendum

02-15-2008, 08:43 AM	#56
rontiss1 Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Los Angeles,California Posts: 521	The Dog Whisperer There was a message I read here about the dog whisperer. Well, the doggie park where I take my two girls, boobah and gina, there are many people who have tried the dog whisperer. Caesar Millan. Some have told me it helped a lot others said it was money down the drain. FYI __________________ [COLOR="Red"] :[/COLOR

02-15-2008, 08:44 AM	#57
BabyFidgette Learn Yorkie CPR! Donating Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 6,855	I know that if there was a "life or death" reason (and I had no other choice) I'd rather debark Baby then give her away. She is my life, and I wouldn't want to live without her. Now, with that being said, I know I will never have to deal with that situation so she will never be debarked. If I have to move into an apartment, it will be one that allows pets. Good luck with your friend/family member. Too bad the assisted living didn't have a "dog" wing. __________________ Nicole & Baby "The more men I meet, the more I love my Yorkie!"

02-15-2008, 08:30 AM	#48
hha No Longer a Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Seneca, SC Posts: 2,837	Maybe she should get rid of the yorkie and get a besenji(sp) they're the only dog that doesn't bark..I rehomed my maltese because of the high pitched bark....I thought about the surgery, but, decided real quick no, as I thought it was cruel(after reading up on it)..now, she's in a fantastic home, and that's the main thing..

02-15-2008, 08:42 AM	#55
genie Loves Hannah & Gracie Donating Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: washington Posts: 1,752	I don't have any experience with this procedure so I can't help you there. I do hope that your friend and her dog will be able to stay together and I hope that you will find some answers and HELPFUL comments and not just negative opinions...

02-15-2008, 08:48 AM	#58
davis Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Tennessee Posts: 187	Can I ask if the dog is elderly also or is he young? If he is young then he will most likely outlive the lady and still be debarked for life. Is there any chance you could get her a cat to take with her and re-home the dog?