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Old 09-17-2008, 06:42 PM   #1
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Cry Davey has Diabetes and liver disease

On 9/07 little Davey looked as if he went blind and didn't know us. He wouldn't follow us with his eyes and just wanted to walk in circles holding his head to the floor. We took him to the emergency vet and after blood test his ammonia level was 414, glucose was only 109, this test was done at 10:27 in the morning he had Nutrical, but no food yet.
He was put on Lactulose and amoxicillin.
I took him to another vet in Michigan for a second opinion and he has been diagnosed with Juvenile diabetes and liver disease. At first the vet had informed me he had successfully done surgeries on yorkies for portal shunt if it was exterior, but he could not guarantee anything. But after checking his urine with a multistick and noted it was positive for glucose then he said he is no longer a good candidate for surgery and would have to be put to sleep.
I had bought this puppy for my daughter for a birthday present. He has been sick for one thing or another since we got this puppy.
I just left the vets office crying. I have not told my daughter what he had told me. The vet is going to call me with the ammonia and Bile Acid test he drew today.
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I am so sorry this terrible thing is happening to your family.......That poor pup.....Did you contact the breeder to let them know the health problems this little one is having?.....I wish the news has been more encouraging from the vet, this is just sooo sad .....Again I'm so sorry for all of you......
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I'm so sorry to here that.

Please get a second or even third opinion though.
I'm not sure exactly how bad ls and diabetes are together but even if he is symptomatic and can't have surgery, maybe he can be managed.

Also, there are only two or three placed in MI that do this surgery often (as far as I know) and they are closer to the East side. Have you gone to MSU?
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I am so sorry to hear this about your baby. Maybe others can give you information. (hugs)
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Please seek additional advice from Board Certified Specialists. He may not be able to have surgery (or maybe he can) - but he may be able to be managed with special food and medicine

Please keep us posted.
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I am so sorry. I agree with Ellie May....get another opinion. Often times vets are not really knowledgable about LS. I'd certainly look for a specialist.

I hope you've contacted your breeder too.

Sending prayers for Davey and your family.
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You need to take him to another vet. Where in Michigan are you located? Can you take him to Michigan State Vet School? He needs to be evaluated by specialists.

First of all, a fasting blood glucose of 109 is in the normal range (65-135). Secondly, even if he is diabetic, it is a perfectly manageable disease. Lady has been diabetic for seven years and still going strong.

Lady had anesthesia many times for teeth cleaning while she was diabetic.

Both juvenile diabetes (if it is that) and liver shunts are genetic. Did you get him from a reputable breeder with a good health guarantee? Your breeder should help you with the vet expenses.

Here is some information on juvenile diabetes.

Juvenile Onset Diabetes Mellitus (Sugar Diabetes) in Dogs & Puppies

And on liver disease:

Portosystemic Shunts FAQ

Hepatic Vascular Disorders - WSAVA 2006 Congress
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I agree with all who have said get another opinion. My Zeus was diagnosed with inoperable liver shunts at 10 months and is now 7 years old. He health is manged well on denosyl sd4 and a prescription diet. There may be some other options. Good luck Juliet
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I'm so sorry you are going through this.

I hope things turn out well for lil' Davey.
Be strong, I will say a little prayer for you.


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Sending a prayer for you and Davey
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oh hon I am sorry to hear this about davey.. how old is he.. and yes get yet another vet to look at him.. and if you can get to a vet school, even better.. sending prayers to you all...anne
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