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Old 01-18-2015, 09:21 PM   #16
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I am sorry I did not update back on this. Beau is just fine, thank you for your concern.

I guess this was not an emergency and I should not have posted in this section.

I did not take him to the vet. He had apparently cut his throat a little on food or something. I really wanted some thoughts or ideas, I forgot all you guys do is recommend to go to the vet.

I held him still until the bleeding stopped and made sure he did not eat any dry food for a couple of day to give it time to heal, he has not had the problem since then. I know a little blood mixed in fluids looks like a lot and can be scary, but that is not cause to run to the vet. Terrify him and have him poked and prodded for nothing.

I am 55 and have always had dogs. I have 6 yorkies and a maltese, they are 5, 7, 9 and 10 years old. I know when I need to take my dog to a vet, and always do--immediately. I would not stop to write a message. I could understand that if someone has a new pup or is a new pet owner, I am sorry, I should not have posted.
you posted because you were concerned and I STILL think you should go to the vet...he deserves that much.
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I would MUCH rather be included in the group that recommended you vet a dog that is sneezing blood and has blood in his mouth, than reassure you that "its OK, no need to panic, he will be fine"....and then during the night, he bleeds to death. I can only imagine what would be said about "those crazy fools on YT that gave the wrong advice and because I trusted them, my baby bled to death!"

If I had known you had so much experience with raising and caring for dogs, I would have presumed you knew what you were looking at, and you could see it was no emergency....that is just one of the problems we have on this forum....all we can go by is what a poster comes on here and says....and if they are in a panic, or concerned about their pup who is bleeding enough from ??? lungs??? throat??? tongue??? gums??? to be sneezing blood, we will usually err on the side of caution....rather safe than sorry.....

We do very frequently, give tips and advice and suggestions on different conditions people are experiencing with their pups. I am sure we only tell people to vet their dog, if it is a situation or issue that WE would take our own dogs to a vet to be seen. Some of us have been around dogs all our lives....I do not ever remember NOT having at least one dog! With that experience, I would clearly know if bleeding from the mouth, or sneezing blood was in amounts enough to warrant a vet visit, without even asking for advice on a pet forum.

I do have to admit, I have fed my dogs RC kibble for over 35 years, and before that, my dogs always ate dry dog food. I have never had one "scratch their throat" on kibble to the point they experienced bleeding from the throat or sneezed blood!! I do hope you have diagnosed your baby correctly and he is doing just fine! Hopefully, he didnt aspirate any kibble into his trachea, into his lung, which caused the bleeding, and could be setting up an infection in his lung.....but I doubt that is what actually happened.....what would the odds of THAT be???!!!!

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I am sure we only tell people to vet their dog, if it is a situation or issue that WE would take our own dogs to a vet to be seen.
Yeah, that. I would have gone to the vet. I can't imagine seeing fresh blood of unknown internal origin and coming to an internet discussion board to ask random people -- who cannot even see the dog -- for advice.

If someone wants to talk Yorkie, this is your place. If someone wants to talk about food, training, x-pens, training, grooming, etc., this is your place. But when it comes to current health problems, be it vomiting, diarrhea, limping, coughing, bleeding of unknown origin, etc., this place really isn't a good resource. That's expecting far too much from us. Once a vet has seen the dog, this discussion board is a great place to reach out and get moral support or get advice on how to manage post-surgical aftercare at home, but diagnosis and treatment we cannot do. We can only guess, and that doesn't help the dog at all.
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I am sorry I did not update back on this. Beau is just fine, thank you for your concern.

I guess this was not an emergency and I should not have posted in this section.

I did not take him to the vet. He had apparently cut his throat a little on food or something. I really wanted some thoughts or ideas, I forgot all you guys do is recommend to go to the vet.

I held him still until the bleeding stopped and made sure he did not eat any dry food for a couple of day to give it time to heal, he has not had the problem since then. I know a little blood mixed in fluids looks like a lot and can be scary, but that is not cause to run to the vet. Terrify him and have him poked and prodded for nothing.

I am 55 and have always had dogs. I have 6 yorkies and a maltese, they are 5, 7, 9 and 10 years old. I know when I need to take my dog to a vet, and always do--immediately. I would not stop to write a message. I could understand that if someone has a new pup or is a new pet owner, I am sorry, I should not have posted.
And we forgot that there are many people like you who don't choose to go to a vet when needed.

There are countless pups who have died on this forum because people didn't like our advice to go to a vet.

Blood coming from nose and mouth should be seen by a vet and I personally think he still should be seen; but it is crystal clear to me that is not happening.

PLEASE read your original post again........you say you know when it is an emergency, yet you asked US if it might be something horrible?????!!!!!?? Really??? And now you say all we do is say go to a vet. No, actually that is not all we do, but in a case like what you posted, YES we did and rightly so.

I will say a prayer for him.
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I would MUCH rather be included in the group that recommended you vet a dog that is sneezing blood and has blood in his mouth, than reassure you that "its OK, no need to panic, he will be fine"....and then during the night, he bleeds to death. I can only imagine what would be said about "those crazy fools on YT that gave the wrong advice and because I trusted them, my baby bled to death!"

If I had known you had so much experience with raising and caring for dogs, I would have presumed you knew what you were looking at, and you could see it was no emergency....that is just one of the problems we have on this forum....all we can go by is what a poster comes on here and says....and if they are in a panic, or concerned about their pup who is bleeding enough from ??? lungs??? throat??? tongue??? gums??? to be sneezing blood, we will usually err on the side of caution....rather safe than sorry.....

We do very frequently, give tips and advice and suggestions on different conditions people are experiencing with their pups. I am sure we only tell people to vet their dog, if it is a situation or issue that WE would take our own dogs to a vet to be seen. Some of us have been around dogs all our lives....I do not ever remember NOT having at least one dog! With that experience, I would clearly know if bleeding from the mouth, or sneezing blood was in amounts enough to warrant a vet visit, without even asking for advice on a pet forum.

I do have to admit, I have fed my dogs RC kibble for over 35 years, and before that, my dogs always ate dry dog food. I have never had one "scratch their throat" on kibble to the point they experienced bleeding from the throat or sneezed blood!! I do hope you have diagnosed your baby correctly and he is doing just fine! Hopefully, he didnt aspirate any kibble into his trachea, into his lung, which caused the bleeding, and could be setting up an infection in his lung.....but I doubt that is what actually happened.....what would the odds of THAT be???!!!!
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Otherwise he seems fine, but he is sneezing blood and seems to have blood in his mouth. I am not sure if he might have just scratched his throat on food, or if it could be something horrible. any thoughts for me.
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Glad to hear your pup appears to be okay, but I agree with others that I would see the vet. I do not think food would scratch a throat causing blood to come out of the mouth and nose.

I would suspect something dental or something else going on that could still be lurking in there.

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You are right. It could have been a vet situation, but what it was, really - he was sneezing bubbles, when I wiped his nose there was blood on the tissue. I then noticed he had blood in his mouth also. I actually think he might have bitten his tongue or something like that, and a little blood was going down his throat as he sneezed. It seemed like it was going on a bit too long, so as I was holding him and trying to access the situation, I thought I might check here and get some thoughts. He has had no problems with it since then.

He had been to the vet 3 months ago, his eye was running a lot and I was concerned about that, the vet determined that he had torn his cornea. He put him on antibiotic eye cream and said to bring him back in a month to sew it shut (so we don't have to look at it). I did not like the idea of sewing it shut, it seemed mean and harsh. The eye has now healed except I can see the cornea is still trying to repair itself.

Beau is a rescue pup, he was so weak when we got him, he could not stand on his back legs, and frequently toppled over if you clapped or something. He is now 4.5 pounds, but has gained 2 pounds since we got him. He had a ratteley chest, so I walked him several times a day to clear his lungs.

With 7 dogs, we frequent the vet, we use the 'top' vet in the area, but he doesn't always care so much about minor things; he acts like you are silly or something. I have been to at least 5 area vets, even the holistic vet; and I think chatting with some of you is more helpful at times, because I know you have a lot of experience with your own dogs as well.

The problem is, once they say 'take him to the vet ASAP', I didn't think I could bring them down to discussing it. Look at my signature, & see I have a lot of dogs. Check my join date, and see I have been a member for a very long time, thus maybe having a yorkie for a long time.

I was on here every day for a year or so, but I could no longer bear the meanness shown to new members, 'stupid' people, even people who could not spell or typed something by mistake. Reading here today shows me that has not changed.

You guys can be very kind and informative, too. Loving to those who have lost animals. So keep up the good work! Sincerely.
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You are right. It could have been a vet situation, but what it was, really - he was sneezing bubbles, when I wiped his nose there was blood on the tissue. I then noticed he had blood in his mouth also. I actually think he might have bitten his tongue or something like that, and a little blood was going down his throat as he sneezed. It seemed like it was going on a bit too long, so as I was holding him and trying to access the situation, I thought I might check here and get some thoughts. He has had no problems with it since then.

He had been to the vet 3 months ago, his eye was running a lot and I was concerned about that, the vet determined that he had torn his cornea. He put him on antibiotic eye cream and said to bring him back in a month to sew it shut (so we don't have to look at it). I did not like the idea of sewing it shut, it seemed mean and harsh. The eye has now healed except I can see the cornea is still trying to repair itself.

Beau is a rescue pup, he was so weak when we got him, he could not stand on his back legs, and frequently toppled over if you clapped or something. He is now 4.5 pounds, but has gained 2 pounds since we got him. He had a ratteley chest, so I walked him several times a day to clear his lungs.

With 7 dogs, we frequent the vet, we use the 'top' vet in the area, but he doesn't always care so much about minor things; he acts like you are silly or something. I have been to at least 5 area vets, even the holistic vet; and I think chatting with some of you is more helpful at times, because I know you have a lot of experience with your own dogs as well.

The problem is, once they say 'take him to the vet ASAP', I didn't think I could bring them down to discussing it. Look at my signature, & see I have a lot of dogs. Check my join date, and see I have been a member for a very long time, thus maybe having a yorkie for a long time.

I was on here every day for a year or so, but I could no longer bear the meanness shown to new members, 'stupid' people, even people who could not spell or typed something by mistake. Reading here today shows me that has not changed.

You guys can be very kind and informative, too. Loving to those who have lost animals. So keep up the good work! Sincerely.
You seriously need to get that eye checked ASAP!! You should not be seeing any issue with the cornea this far out. As for sewing the lid shut...that is common and is not so you don't have to look at it. It helps the healing process. They usually start out with ointment or drops but the eye needs to be monitored carefully during that time .. then there are other procedures which can be done to promote healing. Damage to the cornea is serious business. YHR just had a foster pup who was blind because she had had numerous injuries to her eyes over the years that were not cared for properly. So sad and so preventable.
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You are right. It could have been a vet situation, but what it was, really - he was sneezing bubbles, when I wiped his nose there was blood on the tissue. I then noticed he had blood in his mouth also. I actually think he might have bitten his tongue or something like that, and a little blood was going down his throat as he sneezed. It seemed like it was going on a bit too long, so as I was holding him and trying to access the situation, I thought I might check here and get some thoughts. He has had no problems with it since then.

He had been to the vet 3 months ago, his eye was running a lot and I was concerned about that, the vet determined that he had torn his cornea. He put him on antibiotic eye cream and said to bring him back in a month to sew it shut (so we don't have to look at it). I did not like the idea of sewing it shut, it seemed mean and harsh. The eye has now healed except I can see the cornea is still trying to repair itself.

Beau is a rescue pup, he was so weak when we got him, he could not stand on his back legs, and frequently toppled over if you clapped or something. He is now 4.5 pounds, but has gained 2 pounds since we got him. He had a ratteley chest, so I walked him several times a day to clear his lungs.

With 7 dogs, we frequent the vet, we use the 'top' vet in the area, but he doesn't always care so much about minor things; he acts like you are silly or something. I have been to at least 5 area vets, even the holistic vet; and I think chatting with some of you is more helpful at times, because I know you have a lot of experience with your own dogs as well.

The problem is, once they say 'take him to the vet ASAP', I didn't think I could bring them down to discussing it. Look at my signature, & see I have a lot of dogs. Check my join date, and see I have been a member for a very long time, thus maybe having a yorkie for a long time.

I was on here every day for a year or so, but I could no longer bear the meanness shown to new members, 'stupid' people, even people who could not spell or typed something by mistake. Reading here today shows me that has not changed.

You guys can be very kind and informative, too. Loving to those who have lost animals. So keep up the good work! Sincerely.
Really???? SMH ... if anyone got testy here, it was you. Now you are being called out and rightly so. Don't come here and insult people's intelligence. You were doing just what you were doing...avoiding taking your "rescue" to a vet. Sounds to me like if it keeps up, someone might need to indeed rescue him. So...there. I said it...the truth. Call that mean? Whatever. It is what it is.
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You seriously need to get that eye checked ASAP!! You should not be seeing any issue with the cornea this far out. As for sewing the lid shut...that is common and is not so you don't have to look at it. It helps the healing process. They usually start out with ointment or drops but the eye needs to be monitored carefully during that time .. then there are other procedures which can be done to promote healing. Damage to the cornea is serious business. YHR just had a foster pup who was blind because she had had numerous injuries to her eyes over the years that were not cared for properly. So sad and so preventable.
The vet wants to sew it shut permanently so we don't have to look at it. That is what he said. He said it was a 'collapsed cornea' wait a month for it to heal, then bring him in to sew it shut if i wanted to because it would look ugly. Not to heal, not to reopen. He said the eye would not heal, that he was blind in that eye.
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The vet wants to sew it shut permanently so we don't have to look at it. That is what he said. He said it was a 'collapsed cornea' wait a month for it to heal, then bring him in to sew it shut if i wanted to because it would look ugly. Not to heal, not to reopen. He said the eye would not heal, that he was blind in that eye.
Tragic. I would have an opthamologist weigh in.
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Linda how dare you tell someone who posts in a Yorkie Forum sick and injured section to go to a vet...honestly, how damn dare you, she has had dogs for 10 years, surely a dog sneezing blood and blood in their mouth is no big deal.....uggghhhh..

Dear Readers who are reading this because your having a problem with your pup....

If your pup EVER EVER starts sneezing blood, has blood in their mouth, poops blood etc., it can be a many different things but the chances of it being from an injury due to sharp kibble are slim, please do not assume that your pup is ok, symptoms like this do require a vet visit as some of the illnesses with said symptoms can be life threatening, please do not ever wait and see and take a chance with your pups life, please...remember these pups can go down hill very , very fast. This poster was lucky (I hope) but truly should have not taken such a risk with a pup, especially a rescue pup whose total history is unknown.
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Really???? SMH ... if anyone got testy here, it was you. Now you are being called out and rightly so. Don't come here and insult people's intelligence. You were doing just what you were doing...avoiding taking your "rescue" to a vet. Sounds to me like if it keeps up, someone might need to indeed rescue him. So...there. I said it...the truth. Call that mean? Whatever. It is what it is.
I don't know what SMH means, probably something mean. I am not being testy and I didn't know I was being called out. I take him in regularly, starting when I got him, for his shots, bloodwork, checkups; as do I with all my dogs. I wish there were more kind people who would rescue dogs. We just had to find a new home for a dog who's family didn't have time for him. They got him 3 years ago when their father passed away. I took her to the vet for a check up and found her a permanent home with an elderly woman (friend) who had recently lost one of her dogs, and I know she will love and keep her forever. I don't know if you are mean or not. I know I dearly love and take excellent care of all my dogs, so you really are not offending me.
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I don't know what SMH means, probably something mean. I am not being testy and I didn't know I was being called out. I take him in regularly, starting when I got him, for his shots, bloodwork, checkups; as do I with all my dogs. I wish there were more kind people who would rescue dogs. We just had to find a new home for a dog who's family didn't have time for him. They got him 3 years ago when their father passed away. I took her to the vet for a check up and found her a permanent home with an elderly woman (friend) who had recently lost one of her dogs, and I know she will love and keep her forever. I don't know if you are mean or not. I know I dearly love and take excellent care of all my dogs, so you really are not offending me.
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