Cushing's or Hypothyroid OR something else

[dianaww]

Teddy is a little better today, he is on prescription diet for his tummy issues, our usual vet says he has colitis, which we thought too one of our other Yorkies used to have it. The aim is to sort his colitis out, and then slowly put him back on his original diet that kept him free of his tummy problems that he had had since he was 2, so it will be a long road. Then on Thurs he has another blood test to see if his white cells are still better, we will know results on Fri or Next Monday of that, still waiting to hear about the pancreas test, the urine culture and resting cortisol tests. The main worry is his heart, and the lymph nodes and spleen, more than the gut to be honest, I know pancreatitis isn't good if he has that, but I just think he is stressed with all that he has had going on. Being away from us on Wed for the first time in his life may of bought on the colitis poor darling.


He has so much going on at once, with his heart, his tummy and his spleen and lymph nodes, we just hope the heart isn't too bad, as he already has a valve issue, so we really don't want this possible rhythm problem too, and we hope the lymph nodes, are not the beginnings of Lyphoma or another cancer, as he has had really really bad low white cells for over 3 months, THANK YOU ALL For your support x

[Wylie's Mom]

Originally Posted by dianaww

Teddy had to go and see a specialist vet on Wednesday, they admitted him, and he spent his first night away from us ever, in 7.5 years, we were really upset, but we had to have tests done, He has got several things wrong and may need more tests at another time, he has come home with very upset tummy, very loose stools with blood in, and is not happy about that, poor baby, we are home cooking 4 times a day to try to sort it out, it maybe stress related, from being away from us, and all the tests he had, it may be his slightly swollen pancreas they also found, or colitis, or even the change in diet he had 2 weeks ago, when one vet said he had CUSHINGS we changed to Chicken and Oats to make him feel more full, THE SPECIALIST VET SAYS HE DOES NOT HAVE CUSHINGS, so having OATS in his diet, is not good for pancreas problems, so we are now awaiting more test results Monday, then to see if his specialist wants us to slowly re-introduce his original food that he had eaten for 6 years, after being very ill when he was a year old, on every other food we tried, We now wish we had never changed it, but thought we were doing the right thing. He has a heart issue, on top of his valve problem, that may be causing him issues as he has fallen down a few times, his legs have gone from under him, he has landed on his head not his legs jumping off the sofa, and trying to jump onto the sofa he hit the cushion, and fell on his side, he also has a 1cm growth on his spleen, which they needle biopsied and said it is lymphoid reactive, with some blood in it, which may be normal for him, or may need more investigating, he has slightly enlarged lymph nodes in his abdomen too, and some other issues, His specialist wants to check whether he definitely has a white cell problems or not, as the WHITE BLOOD CELL tests they did were normal, the FIRST NORMAL in 3 months, they can go down again, but if they don't, then it won't be a marrow problem we don't think, but the spleen and lymph nodes are a concern, and maybe nothing, or maybe something more serious, time will tell. The heart may be a problem too, as he has a load VAGAL Heart sound, and irregular beats, he also has slight kidney changes, which they said may be the start of renal issues, all together I counted 7 issues, including his original heart valve problem, I have told him he doesn't need to catch his mum up as I now have 20+ illnesses. We love him So much he was so brave, especially after a resent nightmare at a vet we have now left, where he had 4 needles in his legs instead of one for the low dex test, and ended up swollen bruised and black and blue, and was so upset he wet himself, and the other waste item too, and cried, none of which he has done in a vets before, so we are now back with our original vets, although sadly his vet is leaving at the end of this month. We are going to give him QUALITY of life, rather than QUANTITY, it is not right or fair on him to let him go on longer if he has lost the QUALITY of life, at this time, despite upset tummy with blood in it, he is very happy, He is a battler that is for sure, but I can feel his heart beat is irregular, and he may need to have a 24hr heart ECG that will be fun, it is 60+ miles each way to the specialists, so I am shattered, as I cannot usually travel more than 6 miles at a time maximum, without ill effects, the two days in a row we did over 250 miles, but he is worth it. So it looks like he has several different illnesses. POOR BABY , Oh and they have tested his resting cortisol again, awaiting results of that, and urine culture, awaiting results of that, and also waiting for results of pancreas test, THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR SUPPORT x

I was *just* thinking of you, so I'm so glad to see you posted. Oh Diana, my heart just breaks you with all that you have going on, both with Teddy and with you. I'm so sorry you have so much to deal with, it seems so unfair to me that you and Teddy are both shouldering so much. I will keep you in my thoughts, and I'm hoping you get firm test results and the very best possible outcome so that Teddy can live a full, fun, puppy-lovin' life.

So, he doesn't have Cushings after all? Is the vet firm on that or are you still suspecting it?

Originally Posted by dianaww

Teddy is a little better today, he is on prescription diet for his tummy issues, our usual vet says he has colitis, which we thought too one of our other Yorkies used to have it. The aim is to sort his colitis out, and then slowly put him back on his original diet that kept him free of his tummy problems that he had had since he was 2, so it will be a long road. Then on Thurs he has another blood test to see if his white cells are still better, we will know results on Fri or Next Monday of that, still waiting to hear about the pancreas test, the urine culture and resting cortisol tests. The main worry is his heart, and the lymph nodes and spleen, more than the gut to be honest, I know pancreatitis isn't good if he has that, but I just think he is stressed with all that he has had going on. Being away from us on Wed for the first time in his life may of bought on the colitis poor darling.


He has so much going on at once, with his heart, his tummy and his spleen and lymph nodes, we just hope the heart isn't too bad, as he already has a valve issue, so we really don't want this possible rhythm problem too, and we hope the lymph nodes, are not the beginnings of Lyphoma or another cancer, as he has had really really bad low white cells for over 3 months, THANK YOU ALL For your support x

So glad to hear he is doing a bit better , poor kiddo. Really hoping for vast improvement for Teddy and steady progress to good health.

[dianaww]

Teddy's specialist phoned last night and said his Pancreas results were a little high, and the urine culture was fine, and his cortisol is down to the low 240's so he is not too concerned about that, he says Teddy will need to go on a vet diet for Gut and Panaceas problems, EITHER: Hills ID low fat diet, or ROYAL CANIN Gastro Intestinal LOW FAT .... I have never been a lover of Vet prescription diets, and when I read the ingredients a lot of it is corn and fillers, BUT I have seen some good reports too from owners,BUT HE WAS SO ILL TODAY: and still is: now vomiting since 4am, we need the vet asap, he may have to go in on a drip we are so so so scared and upset, as he HATES being at the vets, he was in a special vet hospital on Wed night last week, and came home this ill, with the stress kicking off this colitis, and now pancreatitis, we are so worried he won't make it ... vet gave him anti-biotic shot and Zantec, to settle tummy and gave me some meds to coat intestines and tummy, and said if he is sick tomorrow he has to come in again to us, he ISN'T Drinking at all toady, and only had ONE drink yesterday, which he has vomited and lost out his bowels, vet said he is NOT dehydrated, but if he is sick again, he cannot even have 1 teaspoon of food, he had had 8 hours with no vomiting and then just now vomited into his mouth so I can't feed him 1 teaspoon. If he goes in on a drip, there is no one to watch him over night, and he could choke on his vomit or breath it in, it always starts off his collapsed trachea and that can kill him, we are so scared we will loose him soon.

[ladyjane]

You don't have vet hospitals that are open 24/7? I would look for one...I personally will not leave a pup with pancreatitis ...or anything for that matter at a vet unsupervised all night. Even if you have to take him there and to an emergency vet at night. But...24/7 is much easier and better imo.
Prayers for Teddy.

[dianaww]

We do have 24 hour emergency vets, but not at our own vet, the one we do have is local but it does NOT have the greatest reputation, if he goes into our vets they are not with the in-patients all night, At this stage they don't thing it is definitely pancreatitis, I have had another Yorkie with that, so I know the signs and Teddy doesn't seem as ill as Max used to be, I have 24 phone line advise with the specialist vet hospital Teddy Went to last week, that is 60 miles away from us.

So it is either take him to the one with the not so great reputation out of hours when our vet is closed, or if he is admitted to our vet, he won't have someone there all night.

Obviously if he does end up with pancreatitis we won't leave it, but we would be taking a chance if we take him locally as all the vets use the same out of hours one with the less than great reputation.

The only other option is our own vets with out all night supervision, we we don't want, or take him 60 miles if he could make it, to the specialist hospital he was in last week.

At the moment we are waiting to see if he keeps the teaspoon of food down. or not.

Thank you for your support.

[ladyjane]

Gosh, I do hope he is ok. Personally, if I thought it was pancreatitis, I would do the 60 miles. Praying it is not and that you and him can catch a break.

[dianaww]

Hi Of course we would do 60 miles, we would do thousands of miles, he ate 1tsp last night and then the second one three hours later he kept down for 3 hours and was sick, so watching if he keeps today's teaspoon down, if not we will have to have him admitted.

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by dianaww

Hi Of course we would do 60 miles, we would do thousands of miles, he ate 1tsp last night and then the second one three hours later he kept down for 3 hours and was sick, so watching if he keeps today's teaspoon down, if not we will have to have him admitted.

Keeping you both in my thoughts and prayers.

[dianaww]

THANK YOU so so much, No more sickness, Spoken to the vet that we will see, when our vet we have had for 6 years leaves the practice at the end of this month he is REALLY good. Am seeing vet tomorrow, lets see what is next for us to do with our dear little man.

[dianaww]

Teddy is a bit better today, he was sick a tiny bit yesterday after the TEASPOON at a time vet diet, BUT we spoke to the vet that we will now be seeing, as our vet is leaving, and he said that it may be food intolerance as well, as Teddy had an awful time when he was 2 years old, and in the end after 10-15 diets, we found one that was fine, sadly we had changed it 14 days before going to the referral hospital, and then all the stress of being away from us for the first night in his life, etc, we think kicked off the colitis, and then he also got gastroenteritis, they do not think it is pancreatitis, as his blood test results were only marginally higher than normal, and it is was only the skin around the pancreas that was swollen in the ultrasound, He may go on to get more clinic pancreatitis in due course, if so we will think his diet again, the one that has been fine for 5 years, is not high fat, it is holistic and he loves it, I am going to speak to them today about fat content in it, so I am prepared. His fever is a little lower, and that may of been stress being at the vet, as he shook in the car he knew where we were going, and usually only shakes once we get in the vets, this was HALF WAY THERE, he knows. Poor darling, we kept saying you are going home you are not staying there, and he stopped shaking while we said it, then started again. He is getting there, small steps, then we have to deal with the other issues he has as and when. I cried when we said goodbye to his vet, she has done so much for him in the past 6 years, we will miss her SO MUCH ...... Thank you again for all your support. x

[ladyjane]

Happy to hear that Teddy is doing better. Sorry about your vet....I threatened mine that if she ever retires, I will be at her door step.

[Wylie's Mom]

Originally Posted by dianaww

Teddy is a bit better today, he was sick a tiny bit yesterday after the TEASPOON at a time vet diet, BUT we spoke to the vet that we will now be seeing, as our vet is leaving, and he said that it may be food intolerance as well, as Teddy had an awful time when he was 2 years old, and in the end after 10-15 diets, we found one that was fine, sadly we had changed it 14 days before going to the referral hospital, and then all the stress of being away from us for the first night in his life, etc, we think kicked off the colitis, and then he also got gastroenteritis, they do not think it is pancreatitis, as his blood test results were only marginally higher than normal, and it is was only the skin around the pancreas that was swollen in the ultrasound, He may go on to get more clinic pancreatitis in due course, if so we will think his diet again, the one that has been fine for 5 years, is not high fat, it is holistic and he loves it, I am going to speak to them today about fat content in it, so I am prepared. His fever is a little lower, and that may of been stress being at the vet, as he shook in the car he knew where we were going, and usually only shakes once we get in the vets, this was HALF WAY THERE, he knows. Poor darling, we kept saying you are going home you are not staying there, and he stopped shaking while we said it, then started again. He is getting there, small steps, then we have to deal with the other issues he has as and when. I cried when we said goodbye to his vet, she has done so much for him in the past 6 years, we will miss her SO MUCH ...... Thank you again for all your support. x

Glad to see he is doing a little better. Keeping you and Teddy in my thoughts.

[dianaww]

Ladyjane And Wylies mum

Thank you, Ladyjane I don't blame you for saying that to your vet, we know who we will now see, there are two we can see. But in 6 years the one who is leaving got to know him SO WELL, how are your babies doing both of you?

[Wylie's Mom]

Originally Posted by dianaww

Ladyjane And Wylies mum

Thank you, Ladyjane I don't blame you for saying that to your vet, we know who we will now see, there are two we can see. But in 6 years the one who is leaving got to know him SO WELL, how are your babies doing both of you?

My 3 kiddos are doing just great, thanks for asking . And we all have our paws crossed for Teddy and are sending him good thoughts for the best of health!

[dianaww]

Hi I am so glad your 3 kiddos are doing well, Teddy has eaten for 1.5 days and kept it all down, we are so pleased.

Let's hope he continues, we still have to get the White Blood Cell test back and see if it is still normal.

We had THREE MONTHS of dangerously low white cells, then the vet hospital got ONE normal White Cell test result, we hope we can get another one, as it will mean it is not likely he has bone marrow cancer.

He does have 6-7 issues, but some may resolve, he has been so so ill for THREE MONTHS that we know of, and how long before ???? Who knows.

So we hope and pray he will be better from now on than he has been.

We will miss his vet so much, 6 years and so much we have been through.

Have a good weekend x