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dianaww · 10-18-2013, 11:46 AM

Teddy is doing well, 4 meals today (He always has 4 small meals) with 10g in each yesterday was 7g in each, but he had 3 yesterday as we didn't have time for 4 after we had seen the vet.

Tomorrow, he will be on his normal 13g per 4 meals. Now to get him to drink more as his kidneys are showing early signs of real issues, he drinks HALF what he should, I have tired every single trick in the book, and pet water filters.

Although he needs another type so I have some in mind to get him.

We played with an ice cube early and he bit bits off if I held it, then he snatched it off me and ate it YIPPIE !

We used to do that with Max our first Yorkie, and with Max we would put them IN the water bowl, so he would drink to get them out.

Teddy is smaller in size, than Max was, so I don't want to cool his body temp down too much, so ONE at a time & not that often, but that is some water.

Then we wet his kibble now, Doesn't get much water but SOME if better than none.

He has just stopped wanting to drink from his bowl, On Monday.

The other day I washed my hands really well (as he was stick being sick) and we do anyway due to low white cells. But we are more OCD about it at the moment.

I cupped my hands with water, and HE DRANK FROM THEM.

Syringe it in gently and he will BITE ME REALLY HARD.

He used to love it from a freshly filled small glass, NO backs off and won't have it, and looks scared.

So it is a battle.

We are NOT pressuring him, we are doing it all SO gently and casually. But it is all a lot of hard work, but we will carry on.

He is so happy today, for the FIRST TIME IN THREE MONTHS, he really played on the bed rolling over wagging his tail, gripping my arm with all 4 legs and play biting my hand and moaning in pleasure, and I nearly cried with joy, but I didn't want him to see me cry it upsets him, and that is the LAST thing I want to do.

Wylie's Mom · 10-20-2013, 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by dianaww

He is so happy today, for the FIRST TIME IN THREE MONTHS, he really played on the bed rolling over wagging his tail, gripping my arm with all 4 legs and play biting my hand and moaning in pleasure, and I nearly cried with joy, but I didn't want him to see me cry it upsets him, and that is the LAST thing I want to do.

So HAPPY to read this

. Just wonderful!

Hey, have you tried sweetening his water with a little sugar or Karo Syrup?

dianaww · 10-20-2013, 08:32 AM

Hi No I haven't as we don't want to add anything, as he cannot have his teeth cleaned at the moment, due to being so ill, and being a YORKIE as you all will know their teeth can be an issue, he needs them cleaned so I don't want to add sugar, also he may have pancreatitis looming and has other issues, we are now adding quite a bit of water to his kibble, he has 4 small meals a day, and it is adding up to 200ml over the 4 meals so HALF The daily amount he needs, and he only ever used to drink 200ml maximum a day before, so we are at that point now, which is great, But I do value your suggestion, we are now trying other ways to get him to drink out side of meal times.

Wylie's Mom · 10-20-2013, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by dianaww

Hi No I haven't as we don't want to add anything, as he cannot have his teeth cleaned at the moment, due to being so ill, and being a YORKIE as you all will know their teeth can be an issue, he needs them cleaned so I don't want to add sugar, also he may have pancreatitis looming and has other issues, we are now adding quite a bit of water to his kibble, he has 4 small meals a day, and it is adding up to 200ml over the 4 meals so HALF The daily amount he needs, and he only ever used to drink 200ml maximum a day before, so we are at that point now, which is great, But I do value your suggestion, we are now trying other ways to get him to drink out side of meal times.

Had another thought...have you tried low-salt chicken broth...either on its own or sprinkled onto food? It would add good moisture. I know you don't want to add anything, so it may be a moot point. Just a thought though.

dianaww · 10-20-2013, 09:26 AM

Hi I will look into that, we have another issue of Teddy being food intolorant to so much, that we are a little apprehensive of anything new at the moment, as he is so poorly but thanks and I will research it. X

dianaww · 10-21-2013, 06:01 AM

Teddy he is doing OK today, I have spoken to my vet and got the blood tests back they show his white cells are just about normal still, BUT they have gone down a little in ONE WEEK since the first normal one we had at the vet hospital. THEY WERE LOW FOR THREE MONTHS!

The vet hospital apparently suggests we re-do another Ultrasound on his Spleen and another biopsy just to make sure it isn't changing, and definitely is benign.

BUT we are not going to put him through that again, Because if it is cancer on the spleen he isn't well enough to have his spleen removed anyway, and if it Metastasis it would only give him 6 months or less to live.

He is so happy at home & he has had enough in the past 3 months, of vets & tests etc, we have to hope the first tests were correct and it is a benign nodule, and that it doesn't grow any larger and rupture.

With any other dog who hasn't his nature, I may of had another ultraound and the spleen removed if needed, but he wouldn't survive all that.

He has been through too much and has other illnesses besides the spleen nodule, that are worrying too. If this was the ONLY issue, it wouldn't of been as bad.

The other things make him weaker.

We have decided for him, the kindest and best way forward is to keep him away from vets UNLESS HE REALLY NEEDS ONE, and let him enjoy to the fullest he can, the life he has left, whether that be a day, a week, a month, a year or more.... He will be happy, WE OWE HIM THAT, he has been through so so much with us and he needs to have peace now.

If it has been my other two Yorkies, they would of been able to manage another biopsy and an op, but not Teddy.

He has a different personality and a different medical history, just one more sedation and Ultrasound and needle aspirates could kill him, and I doubt he'd get through an op to remove his spleen.

It is awful as want him here for as long as I can have, but it ISN'T about me, it is about HIM and what HE NEEDS x

10-18-2013, 11:46 AM	#31
dianaww YT Addict Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: UK Posts: 483	Any ideas to get fur-baby to drink water Teddy is doing well, 4 meals today (He always has 4 small meals) with 10g in each yesterday was 7g in each, but he had 3 yesterday as we didn't have time for 4 after we had seen the vet. Tomorrow, he will be on his normal 13g per 4 meals. Now to get him to drink more as his kidneys are showing early signs of real issues, he drinks HALF what he should, I have tired every single trick in the book, and pet water filters. Although he needs another type so I have some in mind to get him. We played with an ice cube early and he bit bits off if I held it, then he snatched it off me and ate it YIPPIE ! We used to do that with Max our first Yorkie, and with Max we would put them IN the water bowl, so he would drink to get them out. Teddy is smaller in size, than Max was, so I don't want to cool his body temp down too much, so ONE at a time & not that often, but that is some water. Then we wet his kibble now, Doesn't get much water but SOME if better than none. He has just stopped wanting to drink from his bowl, On Monday. The other day I washed my hands really well (as he was stick being sick) and we do anyway due to low white cells. But we are more OCD about it at the moment. I cupped my hands with water, and HE DRANK FROM THEM. Syringe it in gently and he will BITE ME REALLY HARD. He used to love it from a freshly filled small glass, NO backs off and won't have it, and looks scared. So it is a battle. We are NOT pressuring him, we are doing it all SO gently and casually. But it is all a lot of hard work, but we will carry on. He is so happy today, for the FIRST TIME IN THREE MONTHS, he really played on the bed rolling over wagging his tail, gripping my arm with all 4 legs and play biting my hand and moaning in pleasure, and I nearly cried with joy, but I didn't want him to see me cry it upsets him, and that is the LAST thing I want to do. __________________ Teddy Born Aug 06 Max (Mar 95 - Sept 06) Levi (Mar 97 - Aug 09)

10-20-2013, 08:32 AM	#33
dianaww YT Addict Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: UK Posts: 483	Hi No I haven't as we don't want to add anything, as he cannot have his teeth cleaned at the moment, due to being so ill, and being a YORKIE as you all will know their teeth can be an issue, he needs them cleaned so I don't want to add sugar, also he may have pancreatitis looming and has other issues, we are now adding quite a bit of water to his kibble, he has 4 small meals a day, and it is adding up to 200ml over the 4 meals so HALF The daily amount he needs, and he only ever used to drink 200ml maximum a day before, so we are at that point now, which is great, But I do value your suggestion, we are now trying other ways to get him to drink out side of meal times. __________________ Teddy Born Aug 06 Max (Mar 95 - Sept 06) Levi (Mar 97 - Aug 09)

10-20-2013, 09:26 AM	#35
dianaww YT Addict Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: UK Posts: 483	Hi I will look into that, we have another issue of Teddy being food intolorant to so much, that we are a little apprehensive of anything new at the moment, as he is so poorly but thanks and I will research it. X __________________ Teddy Born Aug 06 Max (Mar 95 - Sept 06) Levi (Mar 97 - Aug 09)

10-21-2013, 06:01 AM	#36
dianaww YT Addict Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: UK Posts: 483	Teddy update Teddy he is doing OK today, I have spoken to my vet and got the blood tests back they show his white cells are just about normal still, BUT they have gone down a little in ONE WEEK since the first normal one we had at the vet hospital. THEY WERE LOW FOR THREE MONTHS! The vet hospital apparently suggests we re-do another Ultrasound on his Spleen and another biopsy just to make sure it isn't changing, and definitely is benign. BUT we are not going to put him through that again, Because if it is cancer on the spleen he isn't well enough to have his spleen removed anyway, and if it Metastasis it would only give him 6 months or less to live. He is so happy at home & he has had enough in the past 3 months, of vets & tests etc, we have to hope the first tests were correct and it is a benign nodule, and that it doesn't grow any larger and rupture. With any other dog who hasn't his nature, I may of had another ultraound and the spleen removed if needed, but he wouldn't survive all that. He has been through too much and has other illnesses besides the spleen nodule, that are worrying too. If this was the ONLY issue, it wouldn't of been as bad. The other things make him weaker. We have decided for him, the kindest and best way forward is to keep him away from vets UNLESS HE REALLY NEEDS ONE, and let him enjoy to the fullest he can, the life he has left, whether that be a day, a week, a month, a year or more.... He will be happy, WE OWE HIM THAT, he has been through so so much with us and he needs to have peace now. If it has been my other two Yorkies, they would of been able to manage another biopsy and an op, but not Teddy. He has a different personality and a different medical history, just one more sedation and Ultrasound and needle aspirates could kill him, and I doubt he'd get through an op to remove his spleen. It is awful as want him here for as long as I can have, but it ISN'T about me, it is about HIM and what HE NEEDS x __________________ Teddy Born Aug 06 Max (Mar 95 - Sept 06) Levi (Mar 97 - Aug 09)