Please help us!!!

[lovespandp]

Originally Posted by gemy

Privacy is important to many of us. But when you go all over the internet trying to raise money, for a sick dog (if there is even a sick dog), I believe one should be ready to have background facts checked out.

I applaud our members here who can search out further details on posters such as these.

They remind us that heart needs to be melded to head, and that a scam is borne every minute on the internet.

It is not telling folks what a loser she is, but saying to other readers who are susceptible, to think a moment, to be wary of these kinds of things.

[Giorgismom]

Originally Posted by lovespandp

Yes, the story didn’t make sense from the start. If people were in dire need they would want to know what they could do to help their Yorkie… Care Credit, arrange a surgery at a clinic.. etc etc not just come on insinuate you are asking for money and then disappear.

If I were to give her any money I would be very upset from the information that one of our members have found.

While I get what you are saying posting info about court cases etc is going into an area that most would feel uncomfortable. Calling her out is one thing. Posting personal information is out of line. Now if you gave her money, ok fine by all means exposé her for the fraud she is but come on who read her post and took her seriously afterwards? I wouldn't give a random stranger money but I wouldn't go out of my way to dig up dirt.

That's just me.

[OwnedByJezebel]

She opened herself up to scrutiny when she came here to ask for money and changed her story. First Irvin needs complicated surgery, then all he needs is a splint? But she's still trying to raise $4000, so which story is true or does the dog even have a broken leg at all? Claims to be a nurse but that's probably not true, either. She's the one posting all of the personal stuff on what she is doing because she wants it to be seen. She gave up her privacy herself.

[gemy]

Originally Posted by Giorgismom

While I get what you are saying posting info about court cases etc is going into an area that most would feel uncomfortable. Calling her out is one thing. Posting personal information is out of line. Now if you gave her money, ok fine by all means exposé her for the fraud she is but come on who read her post and took her seriously afterwards? I wouldn't give a random stranger money but I wouldn't go out of my way to dig up dirt.

That's just me.

Court cases are a matter of public record, and does speak to her financial responsibility of lack thereof.

The poster did not post a court case about a divorce, or a lawsuit for custody of children, they posted a court case which did not go her way for non payment of rent.

[lovespandp]

Originally Posted by Giorgismom

While I get what you are saying posting info about court cases etc is going into an area that most would feel uncomfortable. Calling her out is one thing. Posting personal information is out of line. Now if you gave her money, ok fine by all means exposé her for the fraud she is but come on who read her post and took her seriously afterwards? I wouldn't give a random stranger money but I wouldn't go out of my way to dig up dirt.

That's just me.

I wasn't the one that posted the information about the court case… maybe she has her reasons for doing that. However I think if you start a thread as the OP did you are opening the door for that sort of stuff.

Wouldn't you rather know before you gave her money? If I was thinking of helping her out, I would be glad someone posted that type of information, as I would hate to be set up like that.

[Yorkiemom1]

Originally Posted by gemy

Privacy is important to many of us. But when you go all over the internet trying to raise money, for a sick dog (if there is even a sick dog), I believe one should be ready to have background facts checked out.
I applaud our members here who can search out further details on posters such as these.

They remind us that heart needs to be melded to head, and that a scam is borne every minute on the internet.

It is not telling folks what a loser she is, but saying to other readers who are susceptible, to think a moment, to be wary of these kinds of things.

[Giorgismom]

Originally Posted by lovespandp

I wasn't the one that posted the information about the court case… maybe she has her reasons for doing that. However I think if you start a thread as the OP did you are opening the door for that sort of stuff.

Wouldn't you rather know before you gave her money? If I was thinking of helping her out, I would be glad someone posted that type of information, as I would hate to be set up like that.

Then call her a fraud and move on is all I'm saying. Posting about court cases is unnecessary. I see all kinds of fraud and scams online. I'm all for calling someone out. But to go into court records? I wouldn't. I think it would've been better to say so and so is a fraud and state your evidence. Not her court records. Like I said that's just me. I knew she was lying but I have no desire to look up her info.

[gemy]

Originally Posted by Giorgismom

Then call her a fraud and move on is all I'm saying. Posting about court cases is unnecessary. I see all kinds of fraud and scams online. I'm all for calling someone out. But to go into court records? I wouldn't. I think it would've been better to say so and so is a fraud and state your evidence. Not her court records. Like I said that's just me. I knew she was lying but I have no desire to look up her info.

Actually I did not know she was lying. But I am always suspicious of a first time poster, asking for money. Which she did, but Wylies Mom edited it out on her first post.

If you want to say so and so is a fraud then stating why you think so, is pretty pertinent to your statement. That would include court records that reflect on the personm certainly financially and of course if she had any animal abuse citations or convictions against her. And other statements made on other websites, statements that she posted herself about her situation.

Obviously you feel differently to myself, and that is more than okay. Just sharing how I feel differently about this situation.

[lynzy420]

I found the same information, rather quickly but elected to not post it...because...she has 2 small children. Her felonious arrest was a result of the judgement/its a rent thing. In NY state if you "steal" over $1000...it is a Class E Felony. Which usually results then in a plea deal and a fine. Never is a Class E Felony, even if convicted, involve jail time; additionally, once it is plead down and an agreement etc., there is no probation either.

Again, none of her "pages" indicates to me that she is anything other than ignorant regarding Yorkies, complacent regarding the injuries and is a 28 year old self absorbed young single adult with 2 children who has worked at many jobs, relocated to Atlanta in the hopes of finding a better job, has no record, no money and no credit. Her family and friends are well aware of the situation and are also trying to help. I don't know that she has bought a house...I doubt it.

I personally would never ever donate to anyone other than directly to a vet, which I have many many many times. I have gone so far as to ask people with similar pages the name of their vet so I could call to them to donate, no one has ever said no, until now.

I hope, that if she does get the money she is asking for that she uses it the way it is intended. I hope that if she comes back here she realizes that we only care about the pup...I am sickened thinking that this poor thing is suffering....

I have said many times that I would never look up personal information and post it, often times I find way more info then I intend and I don't post it. I am also aware that legally there are things that, even under the "anonymous" user name here on YT that if you post you can be held accountable and be sued etc... You can ask Admin directly if you want, but that is indeed the case. While some records may be public information, they can not be relinked, recopied, reposted.

Additionally, regardless of how rare a name is there are almost always people with the same name. It is very important to verify your information before posting it. Last week another member found info. on BYB, very rare name; I was able to point out to the member that it was NOT the person they thought it was, just the same name.

Even when dealing with the scum of the earth byb's and greeders I refrain from posting information you can readily find, if your looking.

Finally, I would not donate to this person regardless at this point....I would donate to the pup, if she surrendered it to a Rescue.

[capt_noonie]

Originally Posted by lovespandp

Yes, the story didn’t make sense from the start. If people were in dire need they would want to know what they could do to help their Yorkie… Care Credit, arrange a surgery at a clinic.. etc etc not just come on insinuate you are asking for money and then disappear.

If I were to give her any money I would be very upset from the information that one of our members have found.

Exactly, instead, the OP wrote:

Originally Posted by siba3000

No actually I know A LOT about Yorkies
About dogs in general. I'm not a new dog owner.
Smh

Originally Posted by siba3000

I posted on here NOT to be spoken to like I did something wrong but simply to get the word out about my dog. None of you have told me anything I didn't know already.

[Yorkiemom1]

Originally Posted by Giorgismom

While I get what you are saying posting info about court cases etc is going into an area that most would feel uncomfortable. Calling her out is one thing. Posting personal information is out of line. Now if you gave her money, ok fine by all means exposé her for the fraud she is but come on who read her post and took her seriously afterwards? I wouldn't give a random stranger money but I wouldn't go out of my way to dig up dirt.

That's just me.

She has managed to scam some kind hearted people out of over $500.00. I am sure THEY would appreciate knowing her background and what she is capable of doing, as well as what she has already managed to bamboozle them out of....she is a professional scam artist, and her history supports that. If you put yourself out there, begging people for money, based on a cluster of lies, and someone has the SENSE and where with all to double check your credentials before perhaps sending you money, and it becomes evident you are little more than a professional con artist, and have a history of scamming money from different sources, I hardly think the person that found out you were conning people, is the person that needs to be repremanded! As far as I am concerned, I am thankful for the truth about this person, and I wish all the people that have sent her money, on sites all over the internet, plus anyone thinking about sending her money, could be made aware of the information our super sleuths have gathered from PUBLIC ACCESS information sites. It is information that is readily available to anyone that knows how to retrieve it....no lying or scamming done to get the information....and our member is certainly NOT responsible for making this person who or what she is! THAT is her very own work!! She has established herself a REPUTATION. THAT is her OWN handi work!! If this lady was a BREEDER, scamming people on dogs, I wonder if you would be so concerned about exposing her reputation....dont you consider exposing crooks and puppy mills to save people from doing business with that caliber of people, important? I consider it, a public service!

[capt_noonie]

Originally Posted by lynzy420

I found the same information, rather quickly but elected to not post it...because...she has 2 small children. Her felonious arrest was a result of the judgement/its a rent thing. In NY state if you "steal" over $1000...it is a Class E Felony. Which usually results then in a plea deal and a fine. Never is a Class E Felony, even if convicted, involve jail time; additionally, once it is plead down and an agreement etc., there is no probation either.

Again, none of her "pages" indicates to me that she is anything other than ignorant regarding Yorkies, complacent regarding the injuries and is a 28 year old self absorbed young single adult with 2 children who has worked at many jobs, relocated to Atlanta in the hopes of finding a better job, has no record, no money and no credit. Her family and friends are well aware of the situation and are also trying to help. I don't know that she has bought a house...I doubt it.

I personally would never ever donate to anyone other than directly to a vet, which I have many many many times. I have gone so far as to ask people with similar pages the name of their vet so I could call to them to donate, no one has ever said no, until now.

I hope, that if she does get the money she is asking for that she uses it the way it is intended. I hope that if she comes back here she realizes that we only care about the pup...I am sickened thinking that this poor thing is suffering....

I have said many times that I would never look up personal information and post it, often times I find way more info then I intend and I don't post it. I am also aware that legally there are things that, even under the "anonymous" user name here on YT that if you post you can be held accountable and be sued etc... You can ask Admin directly if you want, but that is indeed the case. While some records may be public information, they can not be relinked, recopied, reposted.

Additionally, regardless of how rare a name is there are almost always people with the same name. It is very important to verify your information before posting it. Last week another member found info. on BYB, very rare name; I was able to point out to the member that it was NOT the person they thought it was, just the same name.

Even when dealing with the scum of the earth byb's and greeders I refrain from posting information you can readily find, if your looking.

Finally, I would not donate to this person regardless at this point....I would donate to the pup, if she surrendered it to a Rescue.

You asked her for your vet info and she said no?
Also I"m left to wonder, how did she afford to buy a yorkie pup in the first place?

[butterfly]

OK I just read two pages and I won't read any more.

I feel kind of ill.....hey, I really am NOT kiding.

[capt_noonie]

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[Yorkiemom1]

Originally Posted by Giorgismom

While I think its pathetic to ask money from strangers, the so called super sleuthing is right up there with it.

Obviously, there was holes in the story. But was it really worth going digging up information just to trash the person? What a boring existence some must have.

I am sure she didnt give you information about court cases and whatever it is she does. If you didnt give her any money, you lost nothing. And at the end of the day after your detective work is over, what changed in your life?

Going on her pages slandering her? Really. I am so glad I am smart enough not to give too much personal info about myself, someone may decide to do a background check on me to see what they can find. I got nothing to hide but its a violation of my privacy, I dont care if I am on the internet.

I hate to burst your bubble, but for people that know how to get the information, everything about you is there for the picking......every place you have ever lived, with the number of people that lived with you at the same address...telephone numbers, jobs and how long you were at each job and the reason for your leaving....credit reports.....marriages....divorces....kids.....cred it cards, loans, etc, etc, etc....the list is endless! and that includes any judgements or jail time you ever did, tickets you have been given, warrants you have received, .....you are operating under an illusion of privacy....everything about you is available to anyone that wants to get a background check on you before renting to you, selling you anything, hiring you, etc. Your insurance rates are based on information you consider "your privacy".... We are all open books.....the good, the bad and the ugly!