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Old 04-14-2011, 09:20 PM   #181
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If you were warned about this site, then why did you come here looking for free advice or support? The vet recommended an mri and you didn't get it. THAT is what is making all of us upset. If the vet recommends something be done, DO IT. If you don't agree with the vet, get a second opinion. If you don't want to argue with us, then why do you keep signing on?

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HAVE YOU HEARD OF GOD GOD CAN HEAL THE LAME AND BLIND WAIT DID GOD DO THAT WITH THE HELP OF DOCTORS AND MEDINCE NO HE DID NOT. GOD IS GREATER AND MORE POWERFUL THEN VETS AND MRI'S
wow. Yes I've heard of god, and yes I've heard of him healing the lame and blind, but have I SEEN it, no. If you think god chose to help out Polo I really wonder what is the lesson he has in for you.

It just seems like you want us to show support for YOU, no Polo.

Now what if something were to happen to Bella?

And why DID your breeder warn you about YT? Seems only the questionable breeders have a problem with this site. hmm.....
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OP, ever hear this one???

"God helps those who help themselves."
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HAVE YOU HEARD OF GOD GOD CAN HEAL THE LAME AND BLIND WAIT DID GOD DO THAT WITH THE HELP OF DOCTORS AND MEDINCE NO HE DID NOT. GOD IS GREATER AND MORE POWERFUL THEN VETS AND MRI'S
*sigh*
So if you were to suddenly feel intense pain, are were unable to walk without falling over, or even to relieve yourself without falling into it, would you deny the one test that could verify what disease you may be carrying because of the cost? Would you say no thank you sir, I'll just give God a call and ask him to heal me.

A little story for you to think about, I'm sure you've heard it before but maybe you've forgotten it.

It had been raining for days and days, and a terrible flood had come over the land. The waters rose so high that one man was forced to climb onto the roof of his house.

As the waters rose higher and higher, a man in a rowboat appeared, and t
old him to get in. "No," replied the man on the roof. "I have faith in the Lord; the Lord will save me." So the man in the rowboat went away. The man on the roof prayed for God to save him.

The waters rose higher and higher, and suddenly a speedboat appeared. "Climb in!" shouted a man in the boat. "No," replied the man on the roof. "I have faith in the Lord; the Lord will save me." So the man in the speedboat went away. The man on the roof prayed for God to save him.

The waters continued to rise. A helicopter appeared and over the loudspeaker, the pilot announced he would lower a rope to the man on the roof. "No," replied the man on the roof. "I have faith in the Lord; the Lord will save me." So the helicopter went away. The man on the roof prayed for God to save him.

The waters rose higher and higher, and eventually they rose so high that the man on the roof was washed away, and alas, the poor man drowned.

Upon arriving in heaven, the man marched straight over to God. "Heavenly Father," he said, "I had faith in you, I prayed to you to save me, and yet you did nothing. Why?" God gave him a puzzled look, and replied "I sent you two boats and a helicopter, what more did you expect?"


Please, reconsider getting Polo that MRI so you don't regret not getting it in the future for Polo's sake.
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Here's one of my favorite "Christian" jokes...However, there's a message here for all believers...

The flood was coming and word was sent to evacuate. One farmer sat on his porch and told the rescue team. "I'm waiting for God, He'll save me." Soon the water rose and the farmer was forced to the second story of his house. The rescue boat came but he told them. "I'm waiting for God He'll save me." Soon the farmer was forced to the top of his roof. The rescue helecopter came but he told them. "I'm waiting for God, He'll save me." The water rose and the farmer drowned. On his arrival in heaven he asked God, "Why didn't you save me? I waited for you but you never came." God replied. "I came three times."
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oops, I see someone else has heard it too lol...Mine is just a shorter version, but still all true
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To all of the People that think I am lying about Bella. Here is the proof of pictures of her and some with Polo. If this is not proof that I don't have another dog I don't know what is.

BELLA pictures by polomysweetpup - Photobucket

I feel like everything I post on this thread I am being stoned and stabbed I feel you guys are abusing me FOR MY CHOCIES, I am thinking of closing this thread, My breeder warned me about some people on this website that is why I recently stopped posting as much

Guess what 30mins ago Polo picked up his bully stick and chewed almost all of it he never fell once and could hold the bully stick in his paws and you want to tell me he is not any better are you Fu***** kidding me? Most People would of not even of went to the Neuro vet if the did not care about there pet for you guys to say I am negelcting him is hurtful when what I am doing for him is obvious fu***** working and he is getting better, I guess you guys can't get that through your brain since you guys only think there is one way of healing. HAVE YOU HEARD OF GOD GOD CAN HEAL THE LAME AND BLIND WAIT DID GOD DO THAT WITH THE HELP OF DOCTORS AND MEDINCE NO HE DID NOT. GOD IS GREATER AND MORE POWERFUL THEN VETS AND MRI'S
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So if you were to suddenly feel intense pain, are were unable to walk without falling over, or even to relieve yourself without falling into it, would you deny the one test that could verify what disease you may be carrying because of the cost? Would you say no thank you sir, I'll just give God a call and ask him to heal me.

A little story for you to think about, I'm sure you've heard it before but maybe you've forgotten it.

It had been raining for days and days, and a terrible flood had come over the land. The waters rose so high that one man was forced to climb onto the roof of his house.

As the waters rose higher and higher, a man in a rowboat appeared, and t
old him to get in. "No," replied the man on the roof. "I have faith in the Lord; the Lord will save me." So the man in the rowboat went away. The man on the roof prayed for God to save him.

The waters rose higher and higher, and suddenly a speedboat appeared. "Climb in!" shouted a man in the boat. "No," replied the man on the roof. "I have faith in the Lord; the Lord will save me." So the man in the speedboat went away. The man on the roof prayed for God to save him.

The waters continued to rise. A helicopter appeared and over the loudspeaker, the pilot announced he would lower a rope to the man on the roof. "No," replied the man on the roof. "I have faith in the Lord; the Lord will save me." So the helicopter went away. The man on the roof prayed for God to save him.

The waters rose higher and higher, and eventually they rose so high that the man on the roof was washed away, and alas, the poor man drowned.

Upon arriving in heaven, the man marched straight over to God. "Heavenly Father," he said, "I had faith in you, I prayed to you to save me, and yet you did nothing. Why?" God gave him a puzzled look, and replied "I sent you two boats and a helicopter, what more did you expect?"


Please, reconsider getting Polo that MRI so you don't regret not getting it in the future for Polo's sake.

WOW -- you are quite a contradiction with a flair for melodrama! Now you are claiming you are being stabbed, stoned & abused! One refrain that has remained the same is your continued focus on YOURSELF! Once again, it is all about you.

I do not think anyone here doubts the existence of your other dog, Bella! We are all just a little surprised that you would call her “new” after a year and post so little about her previously, especially by name! I found it quite curious from a psychological standpoint, how seldom you referred to her by name! But only curious, I am NOT attaching any significant meaning to the idea.

I am also amazed that you think you can put the entire onus on God when it is convenient to relieve YOURSELF from all responsibility! I noticed that you did not hesitate to buy a “calming muzzle” to stop your dog from barking. Why did you not rely on God to stop the barking? Could it be that the barking bothered YOU? Why are you now relying on God to cure your dog? Could it be that the cost of the MRI might inconvenience YOU? I believe all good comes from God and if your dog is cured, then it will be thanks to God. But I also believe we have a responsibility to take action & use all the tools God puts within our reach to help in taking adequate care of our pets. God works best when we work with Him and try not to hinder His efforts. I appreciated Deuce’s analogy which reflects this concept! Relying on God does NOT relieve us of all responsibility or promote abdication of appropriate action.

I do not think ANYONE is going to believe you are making decisions based on your religious convictions when you drop the “f” bombs so casually in the very same post that you declare God‘s power. VERY CLASSY!! You have shown you do not have the maturity for pet ownership. I feel very sorry for these two yorkies (or any others that you have not told us about) that are forced to rely on you for a standard of care. THEY DESERVE BETTER! I initially tried to avoid negativity, in hopes that you would still change your mind and provide basic care for your Polo. You do not appear to be even considering this possibility. To ignore your neglect, would be to tacitly approve and I DO NOT!

Threatening to close the thread is yet another immature act of putting yourself above the needs of your dog. Very experienced folks have explained that the steroids would give a superficial & temporary improvement without actually treating the CAUSE. Please listen, please care enough to do the right thing.
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WOW -- you are quite a contradiction with a flair for melodrama! Now you are claiming you are being stabbed, stoned & abused! One refrain that has remained the same is your continued focus on YOURSELF! Once again, it is all about you.

I do not think anyone here doubts the existence of your other dog, Bella! We are all just a little surprised that you would call her “new” after a year and post so little about her previously, especially by name! I found it quite curious from a psychological standpoint, how seldom you referred to her by name! But only curious, I am NOT attaching any significant meaning to the idea.

I am also amazed that you think you can put the entire onus on God when it is convenient to relieve YOURSELF from all responsibility! I noticed that you did not hesitate to buy a “calming muzzle” to stop your dog from barking. Why did you not rely on God to stop the barking? Could it be that the barking bothered YOU? Why are you now relying on God to cure your dog? Could it be that the cost of the MRI might inconvenience YOU? I believe all good comes from God and if your dog is cured, then it will be thanks to God. But I also believe we have a responsibility to take action & use all the tools God puts within our reach to help in taking adequate care of our pets. God works best when we work with Him and try not to hinder His efforts. I appreciated Deuce’s analogy which reflects this concept! Relying on God does NOT relieve us of all responsibility or promote abdication of appropriate action.

I do not think ANYONE is going to believe you are making decisions based on your religious convictions when you drop the “f” bombs so casually in the very same post that you declare God‘s power. VERY CLASSY!! You have shown you do not have the maturity for pet ownership. I feel very sorry for these two yorkies (or any others that you have not told us about) that are forced to rely on you for a standard of care. THEY DESERVE BETTER! I initially tried to avoid negativity, in hopes that you would still change your mind and provide basic care for your Polo. You do not appear to be even considering this possibility. To ignore your neglect, would be to tacitly approve and I DO NOT!

Threatening to close the thread is yet another immature act of putting yourself above the needs of your dog. Very experienced folks have explained that the steroids would give a superficial & temporary improvement without actually treating the CAUSE. Please listen, please care enough to do the right thing.
Yes, to the entire post with extra attention to the last paragraph.
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WOW -- you are quite a contradiction with a flair for melodrama! Now you are claiming you are being stabbed, stoned & abused! One refrain that has remained the same is your continued focus on YOURSELF! Once again, it is all about you.

I do not think anyone here doubts the existence of your other dog, Bella! We are all just a little surprised that you would call her “new” after a year and post so little about her previously, especially by name! I found it quite curious from a psychological standpoint, how seldom you referred to her by name! But only curious, I am NOT attaching any significant meaning to the idea.

I am also amazed that you think you can put the entire onus on God when it is convenient to relieve YOURSELF from all responsibility! I noticed that you did not hesitate to buy a “calming muzzle” to stop your dog from barking. Why did you not rely on God to stop the barking? Could it be that the barking bothered YOU? Why are you now relying on God to cure your dog? Could it be that the cost of the MRI might inconvenience YOU? I believe all good comes from God and if your dog is cured, then it will be thanks to God. But I also believe we have a responsibility to take action & use all the tools God puts within our reach to help in taking adequate care of our pets. God works best when we work with Him and try not to hinder His efforts. I appreciated Deuce’s analogy which reflects this concept! Relying on God does NOT relieve us of all responsibility or promote abdication of appropriate action.

I do not think ANYONE is going to believe you are making decisions based on your religious convictions when you drop the “f” bombs so casually in the very same post that you declare God‘s power. VERY CLASSY!! You have shown you do not have the maturity for pet ownership. I feel very sorry for these two yorkies (or any others that you have not told us about) that are forced to rely on you for a standard of care. THEY DESERVE BETTER! I initially tried to avoid negativity, in hopes that you would still change your mind and provide basic care for your Polo. You do not appear to be even considering this possibility. To ignore your neglect, would be to tacitly approve and I DO NOT!

Threatening to close the thread is yet another immature act of putting yourself above the needs of your dog. Very experienced folks have explained that the steroids would give a superficial & temporary improvement without actually treating the CAUSE. Please listen, please care enough to do the right thing.
Excellent post! You said it all perfectly, Debra.
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HAVE YOU HEARD OF GOD GOD CAN HEAL THE LAME AND BLIND WAIT DID GOD DO THAT WITH THE HELP OF DOCTORS AND MEDINCE NO HE DID NOT. GOD IS GREATER AND MORE POWERFUL THEN VETS AND MRI'S
I agree with you. And yes, I know several people that are well today and it had nothing to do with doctors or medicine or supplements.

BUT

Here we say it this way. If we ask for healing and it doesn't happen within a reasonable amount of time, then it is time to go get treatment. This reasonable amount of time would vary depending on what is going on. Some things can wait a few days and other things can only wait a few seconds. As for just getting a diagnosis, there is really no reason to wait. All it will tell you is what you're dealing with. That isn't a bad thing. A serious neurological condition needs medical attention if for whatever reason prayer didn't work. And either way, a diagnosis is needed to see what is going on.

Polo is very sick even if it doesn't look like it. The steroids are reducing inflammation just enough to give you hope that he is getting better. But that's just it, they are covering up the problem. The steroids are taking away a symptom while instead more comprehensive treatment is needed. It is in Polo's best interest to have an MRI and get on a respected treatment plan.
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This is the most absurd excuse for not getting Polo help that I have ever heard...if G** were going to step in and heal Polo, would he have had him suffer through all of the days, weeks and even months that he has been suffering??? Very simply, I do believe in G**, but I believe that he helps those that are willing to help themselves. This poor innocent, little puppy has been entrusted in your care. Come on now, does that mean if Polo continues to suffer and dies in severe pain, that you will also blame G** or blame yourself for withholding the care that is readily available?
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I agree with you. And yes, I know several people that are well today and it had nothing to do with doctors or medicine or supplements.

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Here we say it this way. If we ask for healing and it doesn't happen within a reasonable amount of time, then it is time to go get treatment. This reasonable amount of time would vary depending on what is going on. Some things can wait a few days and other things can only wait a few seconds. As for just getting a diagnosis, there is really no reason to wait. All it will tell you is what you're dealing with. That isn't a bad thing. A serious neurological condition needs medical attention if for whatever reason prayer didn't work. And either way, a diagnosis is needed to see what is going on.

Polo is very sick even if it doesn't look like it. The steroids are reducing inflammation just enough to give you hope that he is getting better. But that's just it, they are covering up the problem. The steroids are taking away a symptom while instead more comprehensive treatment is needed. It is in Polo's best interest to have an MRI and get on a respected treatment plan.
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The Bible says every good gift comes from God. He gave us the intelligence, insignt and abiliities to function in this world and help one another, made mankind a family, mostly consisting of members who work to help one another. That is where medicine, wonderful medical testing equipment, doctors, scientists and even veterinarians came from - our God-given desire to show love for our fellow creatures by working to help them. His providence has provided all of the good things this world has to offer and Polo has all of those at his service if you will allow him to receive them.

God used miracles in the Bible to give credibility and gravitas to the message-giver and not as a routine answer to this life's daily problems. Go read the Bible and you will see that all our Biblical figures' miracles gave their message credulity so that the ancient, often unlearned people would listen to that message since most did not have access to ancient scriptural scrolls or any kind of Bible. You have belief already in that message - you don't need a miracle to prove God's message. And miracles were limited - only about 300 true miracles(defying natural law) in the whole of the Bible - the rest of the wonderful happenings were due to God's providence from His gifts to mankind. In Polo's case, God's providence is a neuro vet, MRI and maybe advanced treatment right in your city, ready to help.

God never intended for his children to avoid all the help He's provided for us through His providential good gifts and to sit around irresponsibly lacking medical/vet care or groceries, heating in winter or lighting in the night, waiting on miracles to provide them! Keep praying for your baby that the treatments will make him well but take him to one of the wonderful neuro vets in your area to get him the best treatment. Then you will see that God has well provided ways to heal Polo if it is not too late. God bless little Polo.
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To all of the People that think I am lying about Bella. Here is the proof of pictures of her and some with Polo. If this is not proof that I don't have another dog I don't know what is.

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I feel like everything I post on this thread I am being stoned and stabbed I feel you guys are abusing me FOR MY CHOCIES, I am thinking of closing this thread, My breeder warned me about some people on this website that is why I recently stopped posting as much

Guess what 30mins ago Polo picked up his bully stick and chewed almost all of it he never fell once and could hold the bully stick in his paws and you want to tell me he is not any better are you (EDITED by MOD) kidding me? Most People would of not even of went to the Neuro vet if the did not care about there pet for you guys to say I am negelcting him is hurtful when what I am doing for him is obvious (EDITED by MOD) working and he is getting better, I guess you guys can't get that through your brain since you guys only think there is one way of healing. HAVE YOU HEARD OF GOD GOD CAN HEAL THE LAME AND BLIND WAIT DID GOD DO THAT WITH THE HELP OF DOCTORS AND MEDINCE NO HE DID NOT. GOD IS GREATER AND MORE POWERFUL THEN VETS AND MRI'S
So you are relying on God to heal your dog? Now I wonder how God let my 17 year old daugher die in an auto accident. Why he let many of my friends die in combat. Why my Mother passed away several years ago from Vasculitis. Why he let Basil break a leg, and why God did not cure it without a Vet Surgeon?

Lady, besides getting your dog some real help, get some yourself.
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Let's all let go of the religious aspect of this thread, it is only going to head in a very bad and very personal and very heated direction if that becomes the focus of this thread.

Let it go. Please.
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