Licking, Smacking Lips? Don't Know What He's Doing

[kjc]

Originally Posted by 143julz

Do share about the coconut oil, am i missing something???

Here's a link (these are benefits for people, there are other links for pets but that reseach is still in early stages):

Coconut Research Center Home Page

And just some of the basics: It is antibacterial, antifungal, can be taken internally or used topically, great for skin, hair, digestion, helps expel internal parasites inc giardia, kills bacterial that causes tooth decay and periodontal disease....etc.

[kjc]

Originally Posted by AllDogBoots

Couldn't I just go back to brushing his teeth? I've really used it on/off for 6 weeks - not quite the recommended amount.

Yes, no problem! Brushing is fine.

[AllDogBoots]

Originally Posted by Ezekiel Jute

This doesn't have anything to do with your post BUT your main pictures is so so cute!! Such a cute smile!

Thank you.

I think Cooper did a little better last night. Either that or I just slept hard. I heard his mouth a little bit but it certainly wasn't an all night continual event. I did not give any Benadryl as I wanted to see if not giving the Leba III made a difference. I'll have to test one thing at a time.

[ladyjane]

I am just seeing this. Interesting thread. I agree that it sounds like the Leba III might be what is causing it.

Honestly, I stick with only the following things with my pups:
teeth brushing
CET AquaDent in their water
dentals yearly as needed, which usually IS yearly


I had heard from a couple of people that the AquaDent worked for them...so I started
using it a year ago. This year, three of my pups did not need dentals in February which is when I always do all of them. They are all starting now to get some tartar, so they will need dentals in the next month or two; but the point is, there was improvement!

[AllDogBoots]

Originally Posted by ladyjane

I am just seeing this. Interesting thread. I agree that it sounds like the Leba III might be what is causing it.

Honestly, I stick with only the following things with my pups:
teeth brushing
CET AquaDent in their water
dentals yearly as needed, which usually IS yearly


I had heard from a couple of people that the AquaDent worked for them...so I started
using it a year ago. This year, three of my pups did not need dentals in February which is when I always do all of them. They are all starting now to get some tartar, so they will need dentals in the next month or two; but the point is, there was improvement!

The reason I started using Leba III was that I was explaining to my vet a couple of months ago that I was having difficulty brushing his teeth and not quite sure it was doing anything. Both vets in the practice suggested Leba III so I tried it. Cooper has never had a dental. He just turned 2. He has a little bit of tartar but the vet said nothing needed to be done at this time. I always have her check his teeth and she always says they are fine.

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by AllDogBoots

The reason I started using Leba III was that I was explaining to my vet a couple of months ago that I was having difficulty brushing his teeth and not quite sure it was doing anything. Both vets in the practice suggested Leba III so I tried it. Cooper has never had a dental. He just turned 2. He has a little bit of tartar but the vet said nothing needed to be done at this time. I always have her check his teeth and she always says they are fine.

If this problem turns out not to be Leba III, I would love some updates about how you feel about this product.

I had not heard of it before. Just did some reading online, but most of what I see is their advertisements. Might be a good thing, though....because I don't see anything negative!

How is Cooper today?

[AllDogBoots]

Originally Posted by ladyjane

If this problem turns out not to be Leba III, I would love some updates about how you feel about this product.

I had not heard of it before. Just did some reading online, but most of what I see is their advertisements. Might be a good thing, though....because I don't see anything negative!

How is Cooper today?

I haven't read anything negative about Leba III, except that KJC pointed out in an old thread that someone's dentist did not recommend it because of the alcohol content. That's the only reason i'm assuming it's drying Cooper's mouth out and causing the behavior.

Cooper seems fine. He never seems sick or anything. It's just that in the middle of the night I hear his mouth going. Last night either he did it less or I slept great. Today he seems fine but he typically doesn't do this behavior unless he's sleeping in bed.

[ladyjane]

Just a note about the CET Aquadent:

I do realize it has xylitol in it...and dont suggest to anyone that they take my word in using it. Do your own research before thinking about using it!

[Mysweetbabies]

Originally Posted by ladyjane

Just a note about the CET Aquadent:

I do realize it has xylitol in it...and dont suggest to anyone that they take my word in using it. Do your own research before thinking about using it!

I use the CET that your spray in their mouth. It doesn't contain xylitol. Wonder why one has xylitol in it and the other doesn't?

[kjc]

Just checking in for an update. How's the Cooper dude sleeping? Any better?
The Leba III changes the chemistry in the mouth to make it unfriendly for the tooth destoying bacteria. Might make him feel like we do after using Listerine or something???

[AllDogBoots]

Originally Posted by kjc

Just checking in for an update. How's the Cooper dude sleeping? Any better?
The Leba III changes the chemistry in the mouth to make it unfriendly for the tooth destoying bacteria. Might make him feel like we do after using Listerine or something???

He's no longer doing this behavior during the day. I heard some mouth movements last night in bed so he's still doing it. I've been telling him "no, go to sleep" and he stops & zonks out. I don't really think it's a medical issue other than possible dry mouth from the Leba III. It only happens in the middle of the night now when he's sleeping, or wakes up from sleeping. I can remove him from the bedroom, take him potty and all is fine. It's so bizarre.

It still could be something in the bedroom, like dust mites but at this point I really don't know. He has no other signs of allergies or health issues at all.

[kjc]

Maybe give it a few more days to resolve, as you're seeing improvement during the day. When and how often were you applying the LebaIII?

This just reminded me... my little Peek a Boo went through a period where he would make suckling noises in his sleep! I woke up thinking what the heck? And I watched him for a few minutes and lips and tongue were moving in such a way like a puppy suckling on it's mom! He was around 7 or 8 years old at the time. I guess he was just dreaming of being with his mom ... or early onset of senility and going through a second childhood?

[AllDogBoots]

Originally Posted by kjc

Maybe give it a few more days to resolve, as you're seeing improvement during the day. When and how often were you applying the LebaIII?

This just reminded me... my little Peek a Boo went through a period where he would make suckling noises in his sleep! I woke up thinking what the heck? And I watched him for a few minutes and lips and tongue were moving in such a way like a puppy suckling on it's mom! He was around 7 or 8 years old at the time. I guess he was just dreaming of being with his mom ... or early onset of senility and going through a second childhood?

I was giving him the recommended dose of 6 drops 2x per day. Last dosage was 2 days ago. I would assume it's no longer in his system.

Your story is funny! My vet said maybe Cooper is just talking in his sleep

[kjc]

Just some tips for tooth brushing:

1. Use an enzymatic tooth paste for pets. The enzymes work to clean the teeth even when you're done brushing.

2. If your dog won't accept a toothbrush in his mouth, apply the enzymatic toothpaste with a Q-tip, or experiment with different size/types brushes.

3. Be patient, and relax. The enzymes in the toothpaste will work even without brushing. If your pup has a lot of plaque on his teeth, you won't get it all off in one sitting. It may take weeks even months to clean up their mouth. But each time will get better, just don't stress to much over it. Your pup will pick up on your anxiety. Make it fun!

[AllDogBoots]

Originally Posted by kjc

Just some tips for tooth brushing:

1. Use an enzymatic tooth paste for pets. The enzymes work to clean the teeth even when you're done brushing.

2. If your dog won't accept a toothbrush in his mouth, apply the enzymatic toothpaste with a Q-tip, or experiment with different size/types brushes.

3. Be patient, and relax. The enzymes in the toothpaste will work even without brushing. If your pup has a lot of plaque on his teeth, you won't get it all off in one sitting. It may take weeks even months to clean up their mouth. But each time will get better, just don't stress to much over it. Your pup will pick up on your anxiety. Make it fun!

I have and have used Enzadent with the finger brush. My vet told me to make a game out of it. Cooper enjoys it but I just don't feel like I'm really doing a whole lot. I rub, and he bites on the brush while i'm doing it. I can't imagine how I could do it more effectively.

Leba III says you cannot use any other dental product while using Leba III. I'll give it a few more days before I start brushing.