yorkie with neuro ?

[107barney]

Originally Posted by fus40

after reading that last post i will no longer be posting any up dates on here.

Oh please don't do that on account of me since I was one of the last posts so you must be referring to me. I just leave your thread and put you on ignore. Goodbye and good luck and best wishes with your dog.

[2Morkies]

Originally Posted by FlDebra

Wow -- maybe we are reading two different threads. I see people who have looked up information, addresses, referrals to neurologists that will do phone consult, specialists in her/his area, others that have given their own dog's experiences, prayers offered, some have tried to explain several potential problems that could be looked into in great detail with references given for more info. A lot of work and heart-felt compassion went out to the OP without so much as a how-do-you-do. Instead people are told not to bother with sad dog stories, not to offer prayers, not to suggest seeing any vets or specialists..... I don't get what the OP does want. Of course there is frustration in having a sick dog. But that is no reason to take it out on the people that are trying to help.

Sorry, It's just hard to read about somebody who is worried sick about their puppy and just asking for advice.
I agree, a lot of people tried to help, but when one is worried about their pup sometimes your thinking is a little off. I think she was just worried. She has doctors saying one thing and getting advice from others....all she needed was total support, compassion and understanding. Not mean or sarcastic remarks in any way at all. You wouldn't respond like that to a friend in person would you? If she doesn't reply or take the advice all we should do is support her, not slam her and say mean things. That's what was discouraging to me.

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by 2Morkies

Sorry, It's just hard to read about somebody who is worried sick about their puppy and just asking for advice.
I agree, a lot of people tried to help, but when one is worried about their pup sometimes your thinking is a little off. I think she was just worried. She has doctors saying one thing and getting advice from others....all she needed was total support, compassion and understanding. Not mean or sarcastic remarks in any way at all. You wouldn't respond like that to a friend in person would you? If she doesn't reply or take the advice all we should do is support her, not slam her and say mean things. That's what was discouraging to me.

If you are referring to me, yes I actually would respond exactly as I have to anyone, including a friend. In my opinion, to do otherwise would be a lie. I do not feel that I was "mean" or "sarcastic". I was honest. She does not have to listen to anyone; but I fear that her pup will suffer and perhaps even die if she does not listen. At least if something awful does happen, no one can say that good veterinary care was not suggested.

Based upon what little I can derive from her writings, I believe the OP is trying to treat her pup by searching on the internet. For me to support that in any way would be criminal.

Perhaps you can offer her some sage advice? Might be a bit more helpful than complaining about what others have offered as advice for this pup.

[megansmomma]

Originally Posted by fus40

ok did anyone see where i said mri do u think it was done by someone other than a neuro vet? if u are on here to post about my grammer, dont post, if you want to post about ur sad yorkie that does not pertain to mine then , dont post. however if u have read my post and understand that we have been to numerous vets, and if u or someone u know has had a similiar dog with something like this then please post.

Originally Posted by 2Morkies

Sorry, It's just hard to read about somebody who is worried sick about their puppy and just asking for advice.
I agree, a lot of people tried to help, but when one is worried about their pup sometimes your thinking is a little off. I think she was just worried. She has doctors saying one thing and getting advice from others....all she needed was total support, compassion and understanding. Not mean or sarcastic remarks in any way at all. You wouldn't respond like that to a friend in person would you? If she doesn't reply or take the advice all we should do is support her, not slam her and say mean things. That's what was discouraging to me.

I have been watching this thread for quite a while and even after the OPer made this statement several very knowledgeable members continued to give advice. Maybe you missed the above statement IMO it is amazing how members like LadyJane, 107Barney or Elle May would even continue to continue to offer reasonable and solid advice.

As for this puppy, my suggestion would be to gather up all of the testing that have been done get a proper diagnosis. These issues have been going on since May and it is now 6 months later without answers. You need to move on from whomever you have been using to get a proper diagnosis for your puppy.

[chachi]

Originally Posted by ladyjane

If you are referring to me, yes I actually would respond exactly as I have to anyone, including a friend. In my opinion, to do otherwise would be a lie. I do not feel that I was "mean" or "sarcastic". I was honest. She does not have to listen to anyone; but I fear that her pup will suffer and perhaps even die if she does not listen. At least if something awful does happen, no one can say that good veterinary care was not suggested.

Based upon what little I can derive from her writings, I believe the OP is trying to treat her pup by searching on the internet. For me to support that in any way would be criminal.

Perhaps you can offer her some sage advice? Might be a bit more helpful than complaining about what others have offered as advice for this pup.

I agree if there is one thing you can be certain Ladyjaqne will be honest with her answers even if the question is a difficult one. I know if I ever have a hairy question that needs a honest well thought ou7t opinion ikt will be hers I want

[fus40]

wwent to a new neurologist and he says necrotizing enchepilitis look it up. waiting for preauthorization from insurance to do spinal tap. hopefully next week, the insurance takes 3 days to do a preauthorization.

[Lizzie07]

Just want to wish the best for Mickey. I hope, and it sounds like the new neurologist is on the right track, that you get a definitive diagnosis and that Mickey gets the treatment he needs.

[kjc]

Originally Posted by fus40

wwent to a new neurologist and he says necrotizing enchepilitis look it up. waiting for preauthorization from insurance to do spinal tap. hopefully next week, the insurance takes 3 days to do a preauthorization.

Thank you for coming back and posting... I'm so sorry to hear this... though there is treatment for it. Keeping you and your wee one in my prayers...

[lillymae]

Thank God ! finally someone who has a clue after how many vets ? and 1 other Neuro. Praying this little guy will be Ok.

[fus40]

and as i remember u were one who also believed it was not a liver shunt. that's the reason we went to another neurologist. after all this time wasted on med's for liver,and tests for liver i wonder how he's going to come out of all this. the neurologist thinks there is already nerve damage since during his exam he's now missing some reflexes. i recieved notification from pet plan insurance that they had recevied all his medical records and would start the review of them. the next few days i will be his advicate and call daily until we get a response from them. meantime he didn't tell me how to treat him so i kept him on the prednisone. but don't worry i will let him know this before the spinal tap. again thank you all for listening and not accusing me of being on here to get medical help from u guys instead of a dvm. hopefully we are on the right track the neurologist did tell me the prognosis may be poor. please pray that we can get this done quickly, all i want for christmas is for my baby to get better.

[fus40]

three vets and one other neuro who all told me it was his liver and yes i'am glad we are finally seeing someone who knows what they are doing. this has been going on since october. it's a huge relief, i repeat a huge relief.

[kjc]

Originally Posted by fus40

three vets and one other neuro who all told me it was his liver and yes i'am glad we are finally seeing someone who knows what they are doing. this has been going on since october. it's a huge relief, i repeat a huge relief.

Dr Sisson treats gme/nme cases all the time some with great success. His symptoms may disappear as he gets the correct dosages of meds. I posted Dr Sissons info in an earlier post on this thread... don't lose hope...

[ladyjane]

Sorry, but I am having a difficult time believing that many vets were THAT far off the mark.

You said an MRI was done and that no one suspected anything with the brain...correct?

As for your comments about not trying to diagnose and treat online. I did not accuse you of anything. I only read what YOU said...that you saw that Prilosec might work...Heaven only knows for what and you were going to try it. I believe those were your words?? hmmm

In my way of thinking, you now have ONE vet who says it may be NE...so why do you believe this vet over the other four?

This entire matter is extremely confusing. I don't see how anyone ONLINE could possibly have known what this was.

Anyway....I really hope that the suspicion is not correct because I would honestly rather deal with LS.

Your pup has been and will remain in my prayers.

[lillymae]

Originally Posted by fus40

three vets and one other neuro who all told me it was his liver and yes i'am glad we are finally seeing someone who knows what they are doing. this has been going on since october. it's a huge relief, i repeat a huge relief.

You are a very good mama for not giving up & trying to find all the info you could. I have faith that he will be Ok. He may have a small amt of nerve damage but he can still be fine & live a long happy life.

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by fus40

ok so after my last post we went to 2 diffrent vets and were told he had an ear infection. after 1.25 mg of prednisone nd antibiotic he straightend out, then just recently he started walking sideways again the chiro came and put his knees back in and then he did fine for a day, then he got worse couldnt walk without falling over 3 vets later numerous test that were inconclusive they did a bile test, urine, ammonia levels, cbc about 800.00 3 diffrent treatments for liver and nothing. i got on here and remembered prednisone made it stop so i gave him 1.25 mg again and 4 days later he was fine again, then after a week suddenly he was doing head tilt back to the vet changed his liver treatment and more prednisone, walking fine and then still head tilt er vet told me to change his liver treatment which we did and gave him a lactulose enema. tapered off his steriod and bam spinning in circles to the right on the floor,and cant walk cause we tapered off steriod? so started it back and can walk but still head tilt doing liver treatment and steriod neuro after doing an mri dosent know 4 diffrent vets dont know always liver, liver, liver, so any one have an ideas, or maybe had a baby that did thes he is now 16 months old and no one can tell me what it is just the same thing liver,liver,liver. i need answers from someone,or suggestions, i love this dog he has insurance and at this point i work parttime to help pay his bills there are no lengths i wont go to for this baby. i know everyone on here wishes us well and will pray, i dont need to know that, and i dont want to hear about taking him to another vet or another specialists we've been to all of them, and no one knows what it is and if it is the liver at some point all this should have gone away, and we could take him off the steriod, just posts suggestions only, iam not some lame duck that thinks u guys on here are vets, i would just like to know what u think about his symptoms. thank you.

Originally Posted by fus40

we've been to several vets and several tests lots of diffrent medicine and after i started him back on prednisone ( i did it after reading here) he starightened up called the vet told him he sent me out some to the pharmacy and then several weeks later bam hes doing the head tilt, noone can tell me why ive spent lots of money 800.00 alone in medicine, and nothing check liver bile, check ammonia level, mri, x rays, u name it weve done it steriod worked for a few weeks, even had him sedated to look in his ears, and nothing. i saw a post on here where they did prilosec thinking of calling dr for it to be sent to compound pharmacy cant hurt right? after my last post he did well for a while, so maybe it masked the symptoms and corrected the problem for the neuro visit? this sucks i love this baby with all my heart and yet i cant find a vet that knows what they r doing! working part time job to pay for all this treatment and will cont to do so until i find out what the hell is wrong with him. every thing is either inconclusive or normal. and all i hear is liver,liver,liver. sick of it after all the treatments weve done for it lactolose,flagyl,neomycein,and three other antibiotics he dosent get better. one vet thought i should taper down the steriod and when i did he walked like he had been drinking beer all day. so against advice he went back on it, i couldnt stand watching him roll in a circle to his right any more and guess what he got better he can walk without falling down, but still head tilts to the right. please any suggestions and yes i will call vet and get the prilosec sent to pharmacy after all they owe me that one. but i digress any advice please post. thanks

Please see the bolded text above and realize that I did not just accuse the OP of self treatment....I read it in HER posts!