Im new here and I really didn't want to jump in and give my view on this for fear I would get torn to shreads. But. I just wanted to put it in a different light.


Let's say for a moment this "furbaby" of yours was a actual human baby. If this child had this form of health problems you just laid her in a bed fed it special formula and vitamins and avoided a surgery she "had to have" you would be in jail. PERIOD.

You talk about love. Is this the kind of love parents have for there children that can't provide for them and they are neglected? Because that's TRUELY what your doing to this poor baby.

From the deepest parts of my soul I beg you, please give her to someone that can give her the help she needs. You are unable to do this at this time. With your sickness and joblessness, you can't even plan to look for a job while your so sick so you know for a fact you can't pay for anything even in the distance future.

You have the responsibility as a dog owner to provide the care they need. In your heart you think your doing this with baby talk and happy thoughts. In the real world this is turning a blind eye.

If you TRUELY love this baby, show it.

welcome - you may be new but that was very well worded - especially about the 'love' part

What a really great post! Thank you :(

Your post really touched me; you express yourself beautifully, welcome to the "clique"!

Funny...I was thinking the same thing. :D

oh man - me too ...I ALMOST rushed Chanel to the vet also for the same reason years ago when she first did it - freaked me right out

and yes - dogs do hide pain....yorkies can be drama queens but that's not the case here. :( We all love our pets but there's a time we just HAVE to do whatever is needed no matter how hard it is - I include all animals in that comment.

What a wonderful and insightful post.

Welcome to YT, you are going to be one value added member.

Mary

Welcome to YT and thank you for your post! :)

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I have been in contact each day with OP. Because i live close to her and because i have my severe Aai yorkie Ellie- i felt responsible to get involved. Last i was told Olga has not transported her yet- due to 11 hour drive to MI. She says Roriee is not screaming as constantly that steroids are helping. Yesterday i offered to make the drive to see Roriee, compare her to the health of Ellie. I thought it would be helpful in finding TRUTH in this entire thread. OP did not mention i could come see Roriee. OP is very mad at YT posts. I have backed off posting because for a whole week and the longest thread ever - we still do not know if Roriee is in extreme pain -Under a vets care- or being rescued. i would love for her to simply let me see Roriee to clear our mind from this horrible image of pain we have painted in our minds. If the situation will not change then all i can do is pray. It appears to be out of our control. God may you bring relief for this baby. And may the OP let us know someday that Roriee is in complete relief. I too love the other posts recently. We have been so worried about this all week that it has absord attention to genuine cases of concern and advice support and prayers.

She is being told how mean we are. She was not angry until certain people involved themselves and then it all got crazy.

Bottom line...NONE of us want ANYTHING but what is good for Roriee. I offered to help get her to Olga but now that they are saying she is only constipated and advising lactulose it has become kind of confusing to me. I would happily help get her somewhere but only IF there are vet records and proof produced. At this point there is way too much conflicting information.

Randi, if you simply would stop acting up and realize no one wants any harm to come to Roriee then perhaps someone could help. I am having a hard time believing that this pup is ok without surgery. If you know in your heart that this is true....then you need to let someone help get HER some help.

Being mad is not going to solve her problem. In my estimation that is a smoke screen and a handy excuse for you to further deny her what she needs. I hope you can prove to SOMEONE that she does not need the surgery you said she needs. You are the one who told the horror stories about her...so being mad at us for wanting the best for her is clearly not helping HER.

If rescues are having a hard time paying vet bills why would they take an owner surrender that needs such expensive treatment? Why can't the rescue's just help with the cost so she can keep her baby instead of putting the dog in a foster home?

Is there a rescue that is willing to take her? I don't see why a dog has to go into a rescue to be able to receive their help.

What pictures? I didn't get to the web site before it was taken down.. And what is AAI? I couldn't find anything when I searched google

I agree completely Brenda... one can get their point across without being harsh.

What you are asking would be a form of Welfare. And that is not what rescue is about. Rescues take in pups that require major medical attention and work with vets that offer their services at a reduced price. Immediate attention is obtained, and fees are worked out. Some vets will offer their services on a payment plan. But, rescues operate on donations.

Fanny Mae Liver Shunt, before they folded, did offer assistance to those in need. However, a financial statement had to be submitted, an owner had to fit a certain criteria to qualify. One stipulation is they could be breeder. The too operated on donations, and of course with assistance of Dr. Tobias who always offered her assistance at little or not cost. This foundation has folded with the passing of Terri Schumsky, the founder and wonderful advocate of the Yorkie and the LS cause.

Totally off topic, but are you talking about the Angel Fund???

Could be they are now Angel Fund. But, when Terri Schumsky was alive and began the whole Liver Shunt Awareness it was known as Fanny Mae.

Rescues are run on donations from supporters and that is the only support they receive to pay for the care of their dogs. They just do not pay vet bills for people who have sick dogs, if that were the case there would be people lined up around that block looking for free vet care.:rolleyes: Basic vet care can be found at many low cost clinics which include vaccines and spay/neuter and possibly other minimal surgeries. Many times they are able to receive grant money for corporations (not the government) to run these types of programs. If there are very serious illnesses the dog needs to be surrendered to rescue so that it can be medically treated under their care. Think about it this way-who would pay to have their dog treated if you could just ask any rescue to pay for vet care--where is the responsibility of the pet owner? :confused: Most vets don't even give the rescues a break in vet costs and it is not even reasonable to assume they would. Vets have costs they incur to run a practice and they must charge as well. Someone has to pay.

Breeding and pet ownership should not be taken lightly and there are many irresponsible breeders/owners. Truth be told, the person that is responsible for the breeding that occurred to bring this dog into the world is LONG GONE and now the OPer is left with a very sick puppy. The breeder (in this case the OPer's roommate) didn't care to do the proper testing etc that needed to be done and now look what has happened. This poor puppy is so sick and in desperate need of care and with owned by someone not willing/able to pay for it herself. The responsibility is then left to others to take over and that should not include the privileged of continued ownership.

after months and months of excuses and delays, while this dog sits in excruciating pain that is causing it to scream... I personally could care less about the OP's feelings anymore... sometimes the truth is harsh... people have gone out of their way here to try and help this dog for months and all that work is being thrown out the window... if they weren't harsh in their responses there would be something wrong with them. Letting a defenseless animal suffer needlessly for months on end is not going to win you any favor on a board full of people who love the breed. sorry. :mad:

In addition to what Mary said, just imagine what would happen if rescues did offer this service. It would be too easy for people to rely on them and not try to raise fund themselves, sell things, etc. And then if the pup is given back to the owner, what happens when more bills come up? Some owners just aren't prepared for them and then the rescue is called again for more money? Even after this surgery and/or brace (surgery could run >$5,000 with after care unless brace works...) there may be more cost to keep the liver functioning properly. And then if the LP is bad enough for surgery? That's a grand or two more...

WOW.. first you all jump all over her to give the dog to a rescue, she finds one that will actually help..and now your on her because the pup has to be transported!!!! They can move her carefully, it's not like they ar going to ship her...

Where is the wall ...I am banging my head on this post...Why don't you go back to November and read what has happened to this dog. It is considered animal cruelty...no human being who cares would allow their dog to scream in pain over and over again.

Okay since you have the answers we have her address - please send her $4000 to fix her dog..oh and be ready to send her some more $$$ because God knows what other diseaes this animal has ...Oh and don't expect any of it back..

How the he$$ do you know...you don't even know what AAI is...

Please save yourself a lot of grief and read the entire thread instead of commenting as you go...:eek:

Since you obviously didn't read this entire thread and just jumped to the end to agree with Brendah here are the images that should be disturbing to EVERYONE and should demand IMMEDIATE ATTENTION on the part of the OPer. :thumbdown There are the pictures taken directly from the Paypal site asking for people to make donations to pay for the surgery----FOR SIX MONTHS! Let me repeat myself SIX MONTHS and no treatment! It is just disturbing to me and I would hope it would be distrubing to you as well that other than steroid this poor dog is not getting any treatment~because it is "loved" :rolleyes:


http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/3109269-post215.html

Dogs with AAI are extremely fragile. One wrong move can potentially cause death. A pothole on a road or being put under a seat on a place may not be okay in this case...

Mommadog - if you have issues with what people have posted here, I suggest you PM them. This thread is *not* the place for what you're currently doing. Got it?

WHen is enough, and when is it proper to put a sick animal down?

Now no need to start a flame war, just asking a question. Even my wife and I disagree on this topic as I feel years ago she kept our Golden at the time alive at least a year past when he should have been put to peace.

I also can't help but agreeing with Momma Dog. For the dog to be helped, why does it have to wind up with a different family? My personal feeling is, if you can't afford something, do not buy it. If you can't maintain it, do not buy it.

This is for *another* thread, not for this thread. Please start this discussion elsewhere. It's a good discussion, but not for here. Thank you.

What is she doing? Everyone has their own opinion. Why can't she express what hers is.

Why don't you start another thread with your questions. It shouldn't be here you are hijacking the thread...:-(