Nancy it was not a hoax 5 months ago. I can't say today is the same but the vet was contacted and no fund was setup for the dog to help with the surgery. The dog has never been seen again by this vet.

Who contacted the vet, last time a vet was contacted, it turned out to be by someone who was part of the hoax. I did a google, and there are many websites that have a dog named Roriee with AAI. Here's one published in Nov: My Baby Roriee - IMOM Community Home and it said in Dec she had her own website. www.roriee.com. Lots of the other websites are no longer working, the dog was in serious trouble in November, can we even be sure it's still alive. Why have all the other websites closed down? Again, what was the name of the vet? There may have been a sick dog at one time, but are we sure, it's still alive?

Nancy, I totally agree with you. However, my opinion and $4 will get you a Starbucks Frapachinno. At least a Grande though! :D

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Can I throw this out there ? Been here a long long time - I don't like seeing the comments to Ann - She's been the best moderator and is an outstanding CARING person - no I don't know her in real life but have never ever seen her say anything that I question -

her job here is tough enough without people questioning her...she has to monitor this whole (huge) site WHILE being fair and tactful and has always accomplished both.

Regarding rescue ....and all I can say is HATS OFF TO THOSE WHO DO IT ! :thumbup: Not many of us could cope with what they see day in and day out without wanting to scream at the pet world - what they do is highly emotional. How many of us could deal with this kind of thing on a daily basis ? Not too many of us I would think - I know personally - I'd probably have a hard time keeping thoughts to myself IF I knew what they know and see.

I just had to say that - thanks for listening...

BACK ON TOPIC NOW -

I've been off the site for the most part all of last week and am playing catch up ....this is one serious illness - I never knew (as I posted a few posts back) how truly painful it really is :( It's sure an eye opener and I'll never be able to read about a dog with AAI the same again based on the info given here.

Is this little yorkie is NOT going into rescue ? Is there a plan ?

I really hope the OP accepts the suggestions and soon.

Nancy, the other websites were just taken down a few days ago when Randi announced that Roiree was not a good candidate for surgery. Many of us asked her why the websites asking for donations for surgery were still up then. They were pulled shortly afterwards.

I have, Linda has and other members here on YT have (yesterday). We have seen all of her threads..what we don't know is if the dog is still alive. She has not provided anything to prove the dog is alive today. I am not sure what you are talking about in regards to the Hoax...???

The vet was contacted yesterday? When was the last time he saw the dog?

Wow....I'm super glad I had other things to do this weekend. This thread is an utter train wreck!:thumbdown

To have a rescue foot the bill for this dogs treatment and allow the OP to keep her is quite frankly one of the most ridiculous notions I've ever heard. It shouldn't be the job of some outside entity to foot the vet bill for someone because they can't afford it, which is basically what that would be doing. This dog needs help and is in a home where the owner can't provide it. She needs to be in a home where it can be. Period. Not a difficult concept to grasp. Funny, I explained the situation to my 9 year old just now and she said the same thing. Guess my 9 year old has a better grasp on reality than some of the people who have posted in this thread.

Still wondering about the OPs two Chis...

Just for anyone not familiar with AAI:
I have been a Vet Tech for 20+ years (now retired) and have worked in all areas of veterinary medicine.

I just want everyone to know that even with all my experience, I would never, ever even attempt to provide homecare to a pup that is suffering with this condition, AAI/AAS.

This condition is a timebomb waiting to go off. One wrong move by the caregiver or the pup can result in immediate, irreversible death.

Years ago, pups born with this congenital defect were immediately PTS, as there was no hope for a cure. Now, in this day and age, with the advances made in veterinary medicine, there is hope for these pups to live normal, happy lives, provided they receive the necessary medical treatment, which involves repair of the connection between the head and the neck.

Without this surgery, it is just a matter of time before the inevitable happens.

Lord, please have mercy on this poor puppy.

I read this entire thread and just can't even start to express the emotions I am feeling.

To know that my baby needs something in order to live in a pain free world and deny them of that is simply uncomprehensible to me. We have dealt with minor, compared to this condition, health problems in my house and sought every resource available to ensure we were providing the best care.

I pray that some peace is brought into this baby's life soon, hopefully with medical care and a home that can keep medical attention for her instead of the eternal peace. :(

If you have not read my baby girl's blog for a more POSITIVE report on a Severe AAI puppy- please do so. She was diagnosed mid Jan 2010 at 11 wks old. The blog explains with lots of photos step by step what we have experienced with Ellie's health, and her current status. It all began with a sudden paralysis, and yelping- then immediately to our wonderful vet...and then to an amazing neuro surgeon. We are currently in Conservative treatment for Ellie...after a body cast of 8 wks scar tissue and ligaments have formed around her c1/c2 and we treat her with caution. Her case is much like Posey's as some of you know- that Cathie Cyr or YorkiesInc raised. Posey still has not needed surgery. So there are cases that the fusion can take place= but must be protected from injury. Our surgeon said IF we ever needed or elected for the surgery he would recommend 6 more months to a year for stronger bones in this tiny puppy.
With that said- yes AAI is terribly serious. We walked deaths valley with Ellie many days - and prepared one day at a time for whatever the future holds. But there is also HOPE. With expert vet care - this can be maintained. It takes TOTAL commitment and determination on the part of the owner equaled with the Yorkie attitude and will to overcome. My friends, my family, and many yorkie people in the community have been nothing but an inspiration to us- But the truth is- Ellie has been the inspiration to all of us. I don't know if Roriee is in the same condition as Ellie physically- If she is I cannot imagine how much pain she would be in without immediate and daily care. I just pray this little doggie has relief. And may we in this YT community know most people on here are genuine and passionate about the health of puppies. I think this situation is beyond our control as any and all offers to help have been given from many on YT this whole week.May God bring peace in this whole link.

AAI Ellie Blog
 

Yorkie Ellie's Journey

for day to day medical and emotional info with a Severe AAI Yorkie Puppy
There is HOPE

So, AAI would be considered a congenital (present at birth) rather than a genetic defect? Also, it seems that some cases can be managed without surgery, as I read from Sherryllynne's post. Just trying to educate myself about this. It seems like in all cases this is a nightmare condition.

As to the OP's case, I guess we just have to let go of this one. She seems to want to go it alone. I'll continue to pray for Roriee and hope for a good outcome or at least an end to her suffering.

You are an Amazing mom. What an inspiration you and your baby are to this thread. I wish you would contact her and send her in the right direction because none of us can. She wont listen. But your story.........is fantastic. Thanks so much for posting this positive story of HOPE. Lissette http://www.elliepearl.blogspot.com/

I meant to copy you. Again thanks for this great info you provided. Very well documented.

Randi is telling everyone that Roriee is ok now, but I suspect it is because she is afraid people are going to report her.

I was told that this pup needs surgery by the vet. I had called to offer to pay for a body cast IF it were recommended, but they told me surgery was and that there was never even an estimate written. She was there in December and she never returned. SO, if Randi decided upon the surgery, that would be the first step....a call to them and a written estimate. I would have spent up to $1,000 if a body cast would help.......I am not spending $4,000. I seriously think it is offensive that people interfered the way they did and wonder if THEY offered to pay...or if their only focus was to prevent rescue from helping. Or..they wanted to redefine rescue. :rolleyes:

Randi, at one point, was considering surrendering her, but some people got to her and told her how mean people are for suggesting that; so now she is back to keeping her.

I am personally horrified to think that this pup is living in pain and have not been able to stop thinking about it for days.

The people who did this have done a great job here of making sure this pup did not get help. They turned the entire thing into a bash LJ for even daring to suggest rescue. I honestly dont care about that...I ONLY care that this has prevented this pup from getting proper care.

SO...I called Randi yesterday, but her phone does not allow blocked calls and I do not wish to give her my number. At this point, I am going to advise her to get a written estimate and THEN start asking for help from the orgs that I sent to her! She cannot ask for money without a written estimate! Then, if she would just email or PM me, I will help her out...and of course I EXPECT all of these other people to put their money where their mouths are and help out as well. Eight people putting up $500 each would do the trick and I see about seven who think that rescue is a bad option. What I am offering is on a personal level..NOT rescue. It is MY money. Can I really afford it? No...I have my OWN pups to care for and before I got them I made sure there was a fund for their care. But that is another story.

The only thing these people who have complained about how mean I am have accomplished is to harden me more. I will NEVER involve myself in anything like this again. I will turn my back, ignore it, and let the pup die. Why? Because I seriously have been sick over this one pup...and trust me there are SO many more like her that it is mind boggling. I do that now with shelters because I cannot save them all...I will also now do it with YT. Once I see a pup and keep talking about it and then know it is suffering, it is impossible for me to forget it. Offering rescue was saving Roriee. I am sick of people and their mouths...like I said, cough up some money and I will be right there with mine! THIS IS ABOUT RORIEE. I was told she DOES need surgery. I dont care what other stories are being told today about her miraculous recovery...that is because Randi is fearful that we are going to report her.

We cannot raise money on YT. Those of you who are doing Randi so many favors by telling her everything that is being posted...please DO share this with her. After she gets an estimate, then she can set up a fund at the vet. I will NOT send money directly to her or anyone else and would not expect anyone else to. My guess is it is her first offer of money and that is what she needs right now...not a bunch of forwarded messages about how mean other people are for trying to help. Please remember that this cannot turn into a fundraising thread! Use PM or email.

I've already posted to you (about this) and just want to say again - if ANYONE questions your motives / writing style etc here - they really need to read what you just offered. That's mind blowing and I wish people understood where your heart is in all that you do.

The he** with me. It is time for everyone to cut the nonsense and DO something productive before this poor pup dies.

But, everyone needs to remember...that we cannot do it for every pup that comes along. I am ONLY doing this because the do gooders, in my opinion, led Randi down the wrong path...and Roriee is smack in the middle of it. Just like a child in a divorce ... with parents playing tug of war with him/her. :(

V, I spoke with Linda today and she has been a wreck over this poor puppy. She cant get that little face out of her mind. She has a Heart of Solid Gold and I stand behind her. Her offer very generous. Lissette

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wow! that is about all I can come up with after trying to read this thread. here is how I see it and this is only my opinion.

1. there is a pup in dire need of surgery to correct a problem;
2. this pup is in pain and has been since December?!?!?;
3. the owner does not have the funds to have the surgery done

if I am correct then why is she not giving this poor baby up to a rescue who is more than willing to help this poor animal. if anybody can sit there and watch their animal suffer on a daily basis for that length of time, well then....that person certainly DOES NOT deserve to own an animal. you do what's best for your pet even if that means surrendering this poor helpless baby to a rescue who can supply what is needed.

I can't believe ANYONE questions your motives. You have dedicated your life to this. I hope this pup is surrendered to someone who can give it the care it deserves. :(

You get the name and address of a Vet that wil do it, and I will send them $501! Now how about stopping your rant ad Nausem about "some people". You can't help everyone, or every dog.

and who said not to give it to a Rescue. All that was asked by someone was why can't the dog go back to the owner. I do not believe that question was out of the ordinary or uncalled for. Why do dogs wind up in a rescue? Oh, and yes, I have been donating to a new Resuce that is just getting under way. You want references? If I was a dog, I would not want to go to you.

I am not going to respond to anything on this thread because people are beyond ignorant. They complain about me and then come at me like they do and feel justified. This is taking away from a pup that needs help..all of the insults and garbage statements about people you don't even know anything about.

I will pm those who want to help Roriee. She is ALL that matters here. :)

If one knows Linda on personal basis, this is not a grandstand play on her part. But, it is a method to call out those that thwarted her progress (and she had got Randi to the point of turning over this pup to rescue).

However, if she can't make contact with Randi, it is a moot point.

This thread is worse than having a piece of Sharpnel taken out of a joint.

Seriosuly, I hopew it all works out, but the "they said this", do gooders, etc is not helping. Where is the OP? WHere is the Dog? $501 from me to the Vet if legit and if it will help. My last post on this thread. Now the Admin may spank me! Oh my!!!!!

I bolded what I hope is remembered besides what you said. It would really be an injustice if people read this thinking this happens all the time - (that kind of offer) because it doesn't. There are caring people here but this is not the norm...which is why I said what I said. I know where your heart is as do many people here and you're correct - this isn't about you but it still shows the kind of person you are -

I think most agree - as hard as it would be to 'give up' your own pet - sometimes the hard decisions show your love. It's like when it's time for them to cross the bridge. It's out of love that many face that decision ....no dog should live in constant pain when there are options available....even if we don't like those options.:(

Yeah, that's me, beyond Ignorant! Ciao!

There are several websites up asking for donations for this pup, there is nothing about vet costs. As a couple of people said; the vet that Randi too this poor pup to, has only seen the pup once. Surgery was recommended by the vet, Randi decided to go another route.

All the ranting in the world is doing nothing to help this poor dog, if the pup still exists; yes Randi's websites are asking for funds looked a bit questionable. No estimate for the surgery was ever provided.