Rimadyl or Metacam?

[orlnurse]

Last night Lily was running around and playing as usual, shredding a puppy pad to pieces, when my daughter heard her yelp. She then noticed she was limping and it appears that her right front paw is hurting her. She wasn't bearing much weight on it. I took her to the vet this morning and they did xrays. No fracture was noted, so the vet thinks that she may have dislocated her shoulder or pulled something, and now she's just sore from it. She is still limping. The vet prescribed Rimadyl, and after doing a search on YT, found out about the class action lawsuit. I have Metacam from about a month ago from after her spay.

She is 7 months old and 7.4 lbs. Which would you use?

[Ellie May]

Metacam most likely, but since your vet didn't prescribe it for this problem and you haven't talked with them about switching, I'd have to say use the Rimadyl...

[pancakepat]

Think I'd call and ask your vet. Then make your decision.
Maybe by then, someone from YT w/more experience will respond to your question. Sorry I wasn't more help.

[Shelby&Seymour]

Call the vet..... explain your concerns and ask if something else can be prescibed.

[AprilLove]

Originally Posted by Shelby&Seymour

Call the vet..... explain your concerns and ask if something else can be prescibed.

I agree

As a side note, not all meds affect furbabies the same. Two of mine had no problems with Metacam, but one did, and it was scary. Please always be aware of the possible side effects to any pain/meds you give your furbabies no matter how safe you think they are, so if they do react, you will know the signs right away and be able to help them.

Any owner being prescribed one of the NSAID's for their dog should always ask for a client information sheet explaining the possible side effects of the drug and what to look out for. These are not automatically handed out by vets who buy shipments of the drugs from pharmaceutical companies then repackage them in smaller quantities for the client. In the process, the information sheets may be lost and the vet often does not clearly communicate the importance of monitoring the dog for adverse effects.

[dwerten]

i prefer tramadol over nsaids even if it does not have an anti-inflammatory as i do not like nsaids

does your dog have any health issues? Nsaids should never be prescribed to a dog on steroids or with ibd

my dog got really sick on metacam but she is on steroids so that is the reason

if your dog vomits at all STOP IMMEDIATELY

[dwerten]

Veterinary Non-Steroidal Anti-Inflammatory Drugs (NSAIDs)

honestly if your dog is in a little pain like when we sprain our ankle we do not take pain pills for that so sometimes pain is your ally as they will rest it and stay off it. If you give pain pills then they will walk on it more and possibly hurt it worse. After dd was so sick from metacam the vet told me pain is a good ally and i wanted to bop him as i should have held off on pain meds and just rested her as that would have been better than the month i dealt with a vomitting dog and diarrhea from getting colitis from metacam

http://www.veterinarypartner.com/Con...299&A=2508&S=0

[dwerten]

also never give on an empty stomach give 1/2 food then metacam then 1/2 food as vet gave to my dog on empty stomach - we will never go back to this vet after this whole fiasco i was furious. Nsaids can mess up the intestines of humans and dogs and cause ulcers if given on empty stomach

[Ellie May]

Originally Posted by dwerten

i prefer tramadol over nsaids even if it does not have an anti-inflammatory as i do not like nsaids

does your dog have any health issues? Nsaids should never be prescribed to a dog on steroids or with ibd

my dog got really sick on metacam but she is on steroids so that is the reason

if your dog vomits at all STOP IMMEDIATELY

Tramadol is my choice also, but I know it doesn't work well for all dogs.

Originally Posted by dwerten

Veterinary Non-Steroidal Anti-Inflammatory Drugs (NSAIDs)

honestly if your dog is in a little pain like when we sprain our ankle we do not take pain pills for that so sometimes pain is your ally as they will rest it and stay off it. If you give pain pills then they will walk on it more and possibly hurt it worse. After dd was so sick from metacam the vet told me pain is a good ally and i wanted to bop him as i should have held off on pain meds and just rested her as that would have been better than the month i dealt with a vomitting dog and diarrhea from getting colitis from metacam

Pain Drugs for Dogs: Be an Informed Pet Owner - VeterinaryPartner.com - a VIN company!

So if a child was in pain and a parent wanted them to slow down, pain meds would be withheld? I've heard this theory many times, but I can't imagine letting my doggie stay in pain unless a serious medical issue (like LS) made pain meds for dangerous...

[dwerten]

Originally Posted by Ellie May

Tramadol is my choice also, but I know it doesn't work well for all dogs.



So if a child was in pain and a parent wanted them to slow down, pain meds would be withheld? I've heard this theory many times, but I can't imagine letting my doggie stay in pain unless a serious medical issue (like LS) made pain meds for dangerous...

i look at it like if you sprained your ankle you do not take pain killers for that and an acl rupture is painful only when the injury happens as i ruptured my achilles tendon personally and the initial injury is when it hurts after that no pain - I just think in the vet profession they are way too quick to give pain meds unlike with humans. Sometimes the pain killers can do more damage than a little pain making them rest as did with my dee dee she was sick for a month from metacam and it took me a long time to get her balanced again with no diarrhea too - never had an issue with tramadol in any of my dogs and they have health issues - much safer than nsaids - I will NEVER EVER use NSAIDS again after what i went through - they are just not safe in my opinion. They can perforate a human bowel so imagine what they can do to a 7lb dog

[dwerten]

there is also dog aspirin which is much safer than nsaids as well and i highly doubt a human doctor gives a child the equivalent of nsaids as i am sure they use much safer meds in a child. I do not have skin kids so no clue on human medicine. Many give their dogs baby aspirin when an injury occurs but i personally would not as there is dog aspirin you can get from petsmart and probably safer.

http://www.petsmart.com/product/inde...ductId=2751695

[Ellie May]

Originally Posted by dwerten

i look at it like if you sprained your ankle you do not take pain killers for that and an acl rupture is painful only when the injury happens as i ruptured my achilles tendon personally and the initial injury is when it hurts after that no pain - I just think in the vet profession they are way too quick to give pain meds unlike with humans. Sometimes the pain killers can do more damage than a little pain making them rest as did with my dee dee she was sick for a month from metacam and it took me a long time to get her balanced again with no diarrhea too - never had an issue with tramadol in any of my dogs and they have health issues - much safer than nsaids - I will NEVER EVER use NSAIDS again after what i went through - they are just not safe in my opinion. They can perforate a human bowel so imagine what they can do to a 7lb dog

I think if Tramadol works for the dog, then it is a great choice. I have read before that it is often given with something else (like an NSAID) to increase effectiveness.

I just want the OP to see both sides of the other thing. Not all of us (generally speaking) use pain to help us keep our pups quiet. Some of us would rather take the risk and medicate to keep the dog comfy. Of course that depends on the problem, the length of time that pain is going to be involved, etc.

[dwerten]

Originally Posted by Ellie May

I think if Tramadol works for the dog, then it is a great choice. I have read before that it is often given with something else (like an NSAID) to increase effectiveness.

I just want the OP to see both sides of the other thing. Not all of us (generally speaking) use pain to help us keep our pups quiet. Some of us would rather take the risk and medicate to keep the dog comfy. Of course that depends on the problem, the length of time that pain is going to be involved, etc.

yes you can mix nsaids and tramadol for extra pain relief and you can mix tramadol with steroids but you are NEVER suppose to mix nsaids with steroids or your dog can get ulcers and i am lucky dd did not as she vomitted after first dose and i stopped immediately after that but she was sick for along time after and had to take her to internal medicine specialist as she would not stop vomitting up her food - it was HORRIBLE.

I just think people rush to quickly for pain meds for a dog when they would not do the same type of pain med for themselves and this breed has a lot of intestinal issues like ibd and you are to NEVER give a dog with IBD nsaids as that is a disaster as well per internal medicine. Also vets many times do not tell clients the side effects nor tell them how to administer and do not give out the client sheet so a client knows what all is involved. I am on a yahoo groups regarding nsaids and it is not pretty when things go bad with these drugs so i feel very strongly about them especially since i saw what they did to my dog on one dose. I would hate to not warn someone and then something happen as better to make an informed decision.

would you take an nsaid if you sprained your ankle as humans can take nsaids as well? I wouldn't

[dwerten]

Originally Posted by orlnurse

Last night Lily was running around and playing as usual, shredding a puppy pad to pieces, when my daughter heard her yelp. She then noticed she was limping and it appears that her right front paw is hurting her. She wasn't bearing much weight on it. I took her to the vet this morning and they did xrays. No fracture was noted, so the vet thinks that she may have dislocated her shoulder or pulled something, and now she's just sore from it. She is still limping. The vet prescribed Rimadyl, and after doing a search on YT, found out about the class action lawsuit. I have Metacam from about a month ago from after her spay.

She is 7 months old and 7.4 lbs. Which would you use?

a dislocated shoulder i would think would show up in the xray did this show up in xray? I bet it was a sprain is my guess or soft tissue injury and within 3-4 days will be gone

[Ellie May]

Originally Posted by dwerten

yes you can mix nsaids and tramadol for extra pain relief and you can mix tramadol with steroids but you are NEVER suppose to mix nsaids with steroids or your dog can get ulcers and i am lucky dd did not as she vomitted after first dose and i stopped immediately after that but she was sick for along time after and had to take her to internal medicine specialist as she would not stop vomitting up her food - it was HORRIBLE.

I just think people rush to quickly for pain meds for a dog when they would not do the same type of pain med for themselves and this breed has a lot of intestinal issues like ibd and you are to NEVER give a dog with IBD nsaids as that is a disaster as well per internal medicine. Also vets many times do not tell clients the side effects nor tell them how to administer and do not give out the client sheet so a client knows what all is involved. I am on a yahoo groups regarding nsaids and it is not pretty when things go bad with these drugs so i feel very strongly about them especially since i saw what they did to my dog on one dose. I would hate to not warn someone and then something happen as better to make an informed decision.

would you take an nsaid if you sprained your ankle as humans can take nsaids as well? I wouldn't

Never sprained, fractured, torn, or broke anything, so can't answer that... I an say when I'm in pain, even if it isn't severe, and I'm irritated with it, I do take NSAIDs. I don't take them daily...wouldn't unless I absolutely had to. I also have no problem taking them once or twice every month or two.

We actually don't use NSAIDs here b/c of Ellie's liver. We used something else after her spay. And this is where some vets go into the pain is okay thing. They think it's okay to not medicate after an abdominal surgery. I completely disagree with that one. Even with the liver problem, her vet was very clear that Ellie would be in pain and that she needed meds and I am so happy that she didn't try to withhold them...

But I don't want to take this thread off topic anymore...

Wondering what the original poster decided to do.
I think the only way to get around the Rimadyl if you don't want to use it is to call the vet.