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Old 02-11-2010, 05:49 PM   #1
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Does anyone have any experience with having the trachea surgery for their dog? If so where did you go and what was the price for the surgery?

We might be getting in a dog that needs to have this surgery if the dog is a candidate....

Any information would be great...

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Old 02-11-2010, 06:38 PM   #2
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My cousin in LA has a yorkie with severe trachea collapse and both her vets discouraged the operation. They said it's the worst trachea they have ever seen. Her pup just coughed and coughed. She has her pup on meds that are working great! I don't know what they are but she is very happy since starting them. We have a few friends that have refused the operation too, it's really just a patch and then not long after another area collapses and you're back to sqaure one, at least that's how I have heard it described. Maybe get another Vets opinion before your final decision? You can PM me anytime.
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i am against this surgery as a friend on another yorkie had the surgery and died shortly after as the stent collapsed - there is not a high success rate and it is a fairly new surgery so i would never do this surgery

there is a group for this collapsed trachea on yahoogroups.com - i recommend joining that group for management

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There are many medications you can use. I personally would not do surgery for a collapsed trachea....I have yet to see good results.
I recently lost a foster that had CT. He passed away on Christmas Eve. He did well for a long while on medications. One that many vets don't know about is Lomotil...we got great results with it!
If you need more information, feel free to PM me. I have had a few of these pups.
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Hi,

We don't even have the pup yet and might not even get him. I am just looking for information on the surgery as I have not been able to find any information where it has been a success and figured I would post here.

We obviously would consult with our vets and try medications before any drastic measures...just looking into options, as we are told he is pretty bad

I just wanted to see if anyone on YT has had success with the surgery or know anyone who has...

I just lost a dog myself in November who also had CT he was diagnosed at an older age with CT and responded well to the medications. He past away at age 13 from a heart condition, however I do believe the CT put a strain on his heart. This dog however is under 1 years old and already has a CT so in the long run I am thinking he worse off then my Peppy was.
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We are getting the pup in tomorrow....once I have him we will be able to see how his trachea really is....

Thank you everyone for the information...
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The best advice I can give is to try not to let it upset you. CT pups can scare you with the way they sound. Many people were frightened when they heard my little Ozzy, but most of the time he really was not in respiratory distress in spite of having that awful honking sound. It is important to watch the colors of their gums. I always stayed relaxed believing that it helped him.

He was older and really a bad case, but I was able to manage him for quite some time with medications. After he passed, my vet told me that in most cases he would have died. I just was very attentive and did a lot of reading and was willing to try different meds.

I played with a lot of different meds (under vet guidance of course) and found ways to position him when he was asleep so that it was easier for him to breath.
The humidity here was very difficult for him. He also had to lose some weight. He was 4 pounds when he came to me and gained a pound, so I had to put him on a diet.
Keeping them cool and calm is also good.
Keep us posted...I hope he is not as bad as you have been told.
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Great advice on this thread . I can't add anything here in terms of advice...so I just wanted to offer support, and I hope you keep us posted.

I'm facing something somewhat similar in that my Marcel may have an "elongated soft palate"...and surgery is recommended as an option (esp. bc he is young)...and I too am in research mode, and a bit of freak-out mode as well...
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I lost my Gracie at 6 to a severely collapsed trachea about 13 years ago and she did ok on meds for almost 2 years but it took it's toll on her heart and lungs and sadly she passed at 6. I checked into surgery at that time and the vets at Texas A&M consulted with me by phone and said where her collapse was (thoracic area did not have a good outcome and the complications were many and they would not recommend it for her. That was a long time ago and hopefully they have more advanced procedures. I hope the one you are getting can be maintained on meds.
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I lost my Gracie at 6 to a severely collapsed trachea about 13 years ago and she did ok on meds for almost 2 years but it took it's toll on her heart and lungs and sadly she passed at 6. I checked into surgery at that time and the vets at Texas A&M consulted with me by phone and said where her collapse was (thoracic area did not have a good outcome and the complications were many and they would not recommend it for her. That was a long time ago and hopefully they have more advanced procedures. I hope the one you are getting can be maintained on meds.
Very true....location is important. I have had three CT pups in my life and all of them had collapses along the entire trachea. I believe most of them have them in the thoracic area making it a very difficult surgery with not so great results.

Having just had one this past year, I can tell you that there are not any great advances. The newest surgery is the one that is done internally, but that one also has a large failure rate. I spoke with two specialists and they both did not give me any reason to pursue this surgery. Of course, Ozzy was older, which made the odds worse, but they were both pretty frank about the success rate.

I spare no expense for my own pups and our group does not for our fosters either. My decision had nothing to do with money, but everything to do with what I would put a pup through. Until someone can prove to me that this surgery has better rates of success, I will never put a pup through it.
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Thanks for all the info...

My Peppy was pretty severe in the end too...however it was his heart that failed him in the end.....we took many rides with me wearing a sweat shirt in my car with the AC full blast, eventhough I have central air he needed more when he was in distress...

You are right it sounds horrible...my vet is great many times I just went over to have them check him out....it was the toll on his heart that concerns me the most.

I am told this pup has trachea congestion? I was trying to find information on exactly what this means..... I guess I will have to see when he gets here and I get him to the vets...

Thanks....I am sure I will be in touch about medications... Peppy was really only on a cough medication that workde really well for him..which I was lucky about... sometimes he was on another too...
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Thanks for all the info...

My Peppy was pretty severe in the end too...however it was his heart that failed him in the end.....we took many rides with me wearing a sweat shirt in my car with the AC full blast, eventhough I have central air he needed more when he was in distress...

You are right it sounds horrible...my vet is great many times I just went over to have them check him out....it was the toll on his heart that concerns me the most.

I am told this pup has trachea congestion? I was trying to find information on exactly what this means..... I guess I will have to see when he gets here and I get him to the vets...

Thanks....I am sure I will be in touch about medications... Peppy was really only on a cough medication that workde really well for him..which I was lucky about... sometimes he was on another too...

That is what got Ozzy as well, but I am comfortable with all we did for him. There just was nothing else left.
Such a horrible condition.
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Very true....location is important. I have had three CT pups in my life and all of them had collapses along the entire trachea. I believe most of them have them in the thoracic area making it a very difficult surgery with not so great results.

Having just had one this past year, I can tell you that there are not any great advances. The newest surgery is the one that is done internally, but that one also has a large failure rate. I spoke with two specialists and they both did not give me any reason to pursue this surgery. Of course, Ozzy was older, which made the odds worse, but they were both pretty frank about the success rate.

I spare no expense for my own pups and our group does not for our fosters either. My decision had nothing to do with money, but everything to do with what I would put a pup through. Until someone can prove to me that this surgery has better rates of success, I will never put a pup through it.
I agree success rate is very poor with this surgery but i believe someone on here had a success with it but that is the first one i have heard of so maybe she will see this thread or you can do a search on here

I personally would not put my dog through this surgery after what i saw with a girl on my yorkie group
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here is my friends website she has a ct york and she posted a ton of info on it

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http://www.stowcreekdesigns.com/Yorkieinfo.html

Normally she would be happy to talk about it but she just lost her scarlet unexpectedly a week ago on a trip out here to california so not sure she is up to talking right now I am still very saddened and they are not sure what happened

scarlett is the one in the pictures in the beds

http://www.stowcreekdesigns.com/Satinshowbeds.html

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I have him...he sounds very congested.... he has had some coughing...but not real dry honking... however was worse after he drank water

You can hear him when he is breathing ... wheezing...questioning if he is has Pneumonia or a real severe case of kennel cough....leaning towards the pneumonia....

Going to get him in tomorrow to one of our vets for x-rays etc...

He is very tiny 6 months old.

Say a prayer for him.... the poor thing...
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